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Old 07-26-2009, 10:08 PM   #1
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Bill Willingham is a Class Act

Last year I went to the Fables panel. I think that the room capacity was about 300 and it was not even filled. This year they decided to move it into a third of ballroom 6 and had a large line-up of the books contributors. The panel was also held on Saturday where last year’s fell on Thursday.

It sounds all well and good, but things did not go as smoothly as anyone would have hoped. The schedulers stuck the thing between panels for Boondock Saints II and The Venture Brothers. So a lot of Venture Brothers guys had decided to sit in on the Fables festivities to ensure their seats for their own gig.

The problems were compounded when the convention staff mismanaged the line. Apparently and inexperienced individual was tasked with forming the line in the backside hallway and wrapped it back and forth before crossing the second doorway creating the third column to the line which was not wanted. When the subsequent person took over, he formed a new line where it was wanted without making any attempt to accommodate the mismanaged portion of the line which was comprised of people who had arrived an hour before the panel to get in. Soon, these people were told that they were not in line and that they needed to leave.

I can’t say how this shock out exactly because I was forced to take my kids to this panel and left one to hold our place while I took the other to use the bathroom and to get them some snacks. When I returned however it did not appear that many had left and the few people I had talked to were still there.

At any rate, Bill Willingham somehow became aware of this fiasco and actually came out and personally apologized to this portion of the line. It was pretty clear that he had hoped to be able to address a much larger segment of his fans and it did not look like it was going to work at nearly as well as he had hoped he was clearly disappointed.

I stuck it out and was able to get into the room having missed only the first few minutes of the presentation. Although, my children and I had to each sit separate. I will commend the interior staff of this panel for working diligently to accommodate as many people as possible. Unfortunately this was not the case with a certain other room I had had some experience with earlier in the show.

Having missed the first few minutes, it later became clear that Mr. Willingham had expressed his disappointment with the situation to the assembly prior. While I do not know exactly what he said it was enough to earn the ire of some attendees to the point where they took it upon themselves to become hecklers.

One rather boisterous gentleman seated one spot away from took it upon himself to express some rather rude opinions include one used of a word which some would consider a mild obscenity. I never find it appropriate to be disrespectful to creators even when the “fan” has been angered directly by the work of said creator.

This was a very unfortunate situation and one that I might even dare to call ugly. I would really hope that event organizers would try to go the extra mile in the future to try to avoid the scheduling situations that will lead to panels filled with large numbers of disinterested individuals.

Again though, for Mr. Willingham to come out and apologize for something that he was clearly not responsible for really went above and beyond his charge. It was a classy move which showed how much his readers actually mean to him and it is the sort of thing that make one proud to be associated with this genre even as only an enthusiast.

And, if any of this information can get back to him, I would like him to know that it is my personal opinion that all of the people who were mishandled by line management and stuck it out were in fact able to gain access to the room for most of the panel.
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:14 PM   #2
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Re: Bill Willingham is a Class Act

Good stuff. The only other thing I know from the board on Willingham is that he is a misguided (at best) conservative.
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:32 PM   #3
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Good stuff. The only other thing I know from the board on Willingham is that he is a misguided (at best) conservative.
and he writes some damn fine funny books
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:50 PM   #4
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Re: Bill Willingham is a Class Act

you can tell him via the Fables forum. He interacts there a lot.

http://www.clockworkstorybook.net/forum/

I'll say this until I'm blue in the face. SDCC is a great show but scheduling and room assignments are a major problem. Add to that how shitty they treat the press there gets to my last nerve.

I think it's also good you voice your displeasure to cci-info@comic-con.org

Seriously, let THEM know. That's the only way it will get rectified.
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you can tell him via the Fables forum. He interacts there a lot.

http://www.clockworkstorybook.net/forum/

I'll say this until I'm blue in the face. SDCC is a great show but scheduling and room assignments are a major problem. Add to that how shitty they treat the press there gets to my last nerve.

I think it's also good you voice your displeasure to cci-info@comic-con.org

Seriously, let THEM know. That's the only way it will get rectified.
You should see how shitty they treat the taxi drivers!!
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Willingham is a misguided (at best) conservative.
You sir, are a class act!
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:20 AM   #7
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you can tell him via the Fables forum. He interacts there a lot.

http://www.clockworkstorybook.net/forum/.
Is this the forum that was created after DC took Willingham's moderating powers away on the DC/Vertigo Fables board after he was a giant butthole there?
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You sir, are a class act!

Why did you only post that one part of the quote as if I was saying that about him?
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:20 AM   #9
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Re: Bill Willingham is a Class Act

I am terribly sorry, but I have to say that I disagree with you.

The format for Comic Con is most certainly unfortunate. Unfortunate for the artists, and unfortunate for the fans. The idea that they don't clear rooms between panels results in squatters who go to panels they aren't necessarily interested in.

Not all of us are evil though. As a venture bros. fan I let many Fables fans cut in front of me in line so long as they promised to leave the room when Fables completed.

That's neither here nor there however. The reason a few Venture Bros. fans were so up at arms was Mr. Bill Willingham repeatedly inferring that none of us could read. The comment you missed was "For you Venture Bros. fans in the audience, this is sure to be something strange and mysterious for you, as books are something you actually have to open and read."

This in and of itself is pretty mild, but he continued with similar comments throughout the panel. There was even a moment when he started to describe, physically, what a book was (Because being interested in a television show means that we are all illiterate). You ought to remember that one, it is when half the room booed him.

Honestly, I think he missed an excellent opportunity to market his story. Here was a captive audience. Nobody was going anywhere. We are all at Comic-Con which means at minimum we are very open minded towards the geekier side of pop culture. Everybody was in a good mood since they knew they didn't have to stand in line anymore, and actually had something to do. There is no reason not to view this as an opportunity to introduce your art to someone who has never seen it before. To be honest, we were all just getting frustrated at being insulted the whole time.

You have to protect your fans first, and Mr. Willingham ought to be applauded for that. Especially for changing the spotlight on him to be another Fables panel. That said, protecting your own fans doesn't mean you have to throw daggers at people who aren't fans yet.
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I am terribly sorry, but I have to say that I disagree with you.

The format for Comic Con is most certainly unfortunate. Unfortunate for the artists, and unfortunate for the fans. The idea that they don't clear rooms between panels results in squatters who go to panels they aren't necessarily interested in.

Not all of us are evil though. As a venture bros. fan I let many Fables fans cut in front of me in line so long as they promised to leave the room when Fables completed.

That's neither here nor there however. The reason a few Venture Bros. fans were so up at arms was Mr. Bill Willingham repeatedly inferring that none of us could read. The comment you missed was "For you Venture Bros. fans in the audience, this is sure to be something strange and mysterious for you, as books are something you actually have to open and read."

This in and of itself is pretty mild, but he continued with similar comments throughout the panel. There was even a moment when he started to describe, physically, what a book was (Because being interested in a television show means that we are all illiterate). You ought to remember that one, it is when half the room booed him.

Honestly, I think he missed an excellent opportunity to market his story. Here was a captive audience. Nobody was going anywhere. We are all at Comic-Con which means at minimum we are very open minded towards the geekier side of pop culture. Everybody was in a good mood since they knew they didn't have to stand in line anymore, and actually had something to do. There is no reason not to view this as an opportunity to introduce your art to someone who has never seen it before. To be honest, we were all just getting frustrated at being insulted the whole time.

You have to protect your fans first, and Mr. Willingham ought to be applauded for that. Especially for changing the spotlight on him to be another Fables panel. That said, protecting your own fans doesn't mean you have to throw daggers at people who aren't fans yet.
I am glad that you are able to add additional perspective to the situation, especially the portion of the panel which I missed. I certainly do not support what he said early, but I still feel that the heckling that went on was inappropriate. I did not make any assumptions about such behavior being indicative of all those who are fans of the show, whatever it is about.

I think we are in agreement though that a number of issues with the way the show is run are illustrated by this antidote and it does not appear that the people running the show are willing to think about doing some things in a different manner.
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