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    Re: Porn legal. Prostitution illegal. What gives?

    Prostituition should be regulated and legalized.
    It would make everything safer.

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    Re: Porn legal. Prostitution illegal. What gives?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeE
    With prostitution, one party is paying another party for sexual favors. With porn, one party is paying one or more other parties to have sex with each other. The party offering the consideration receives no sexual favors himself/herself, he/she merely watches (or films, in the case of the filmmakers).

    That's the distinction. It may sound like nitpicking, but legally it's a huge one.
    I never thought of it that way, its still silly, but as you said, thats a huge loophill when it comes to the legallity of things.




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    There are a number of porn films that show a guy with a camera talking to women on the street and eventually taking them someplace for sex. You know that if it is a real women (and not an actress) she was offered money to come back and have sex for the video. It's a thin line, when you think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mylazycat
    There are a number of porn films that show a guy with a camera talking to women on the street and eventually taking them someplace for sex. You know that if it is a real women (and not an actress) she was offered money to come back and have sex for the video. It's a thin line, when you think about it.
    There are some people who see no difference between a sexy photo of a woman in a bikini for the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue and hard core pornography. For them, it's ALL pornography.

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    Re: Porn legal. Prostitution illegal. What gives?

    Quote Originally Posted by gwyllgi
    Prostituition should be regulated and legalized.
    It would make everything safer.
    I cannot adequately describe, in terms of mega-number theory, how much I agree with your opinion here. To take it further, what would have to be done to set up an environment wherein prostitution could be made legal? This being a theoretical question, we'll take it as read that the impossible proposition that christian sentiment has been removed from the equation and we're proceeding from secular logic.

    First, Prostitution would have to be de-stigmatized. This actually has been happening to a small degree for years in the media, with more and more women, and in some cases men, playing prostitutes in the role of the protagonist. Indeed, it's a role that several actresses will take upon themselves in one way or another, to play a whore or an exotic dancer, to show that they are in fact a serious actress. (Halle berry, Jodie Foster, Brooke Shields, Whatserbutt that played Inara, Alexis Bledel, etc, etc, etc.) If such roles could be shown in a regular series as a good and honorable profession, in a regulated manner much like companions were shown to be in Firefly, that might go a long way toward removing the stigma.

    You'd have to set up a body by which you could offer your services AS a Companion (Yeah, lets use that word now. As long as we're actively trying to redefine the profession, let's use less insulting language to describe it with.) or take contracts for them. State or federally mandated facilities could be practical, and less troublesome to regulate. Though private run facilities have their own advantages.

    You'd need to set up a system by which you needed to procure a license to become a comapnion. Essentially to retain your license, you'd need to be able to demonstrate that you were healthy, free of transmissable disease, and that you had a basic first aid or medical and psychological knowledge pertaining to your chosen profession in order to retain it. Indeed, once you become too old to be a companion anymore, that training could be furthered into the medical industry as a nurse, registered counselor or any number of related fields with only a LITTLE retraining, or extra schooling. With the severe shortage of nurses in the United States, one might think this would be a positive BOON for the medical industry once companions started mid-life-ing into the field.

    Laws would have to be set up to deter abuse by clients of companions. IE: Either present a clean bill of health, or practice safe and non-transmissable sex only. Be able to present a clean slate healthwise, if you want to contract a companion. Be able to pay the medical costs of someone if in fact you manage to get past those roadblocks and infect a professional companion with some STD. One would think the legal industry would be champing at the bit to be able to prosecute abusers, or win substantial settlements from RICH clients who abused a Companion.

    Strict regulations of privacy and confidentiality would need to be maintained. Just like the ethics comittees governing lawyers and doctors. Unethical behaviour for which you could have your license revoked would be blackmail, disclosure of services to unrelated parties, relatives or spouses for financial gain. Of course, clients give up those rights if abuse or infection occur. Again, the potential for the legal industry in defining a clear code of ethics by means of trial and statute would be enormous. As well as further de-stigmatizing the industry by playing it under legal protection.

    I'd imagine schools for the profession opening up wherein safe practices, ethics, essential knowledge and training in related skills (from counseling, to dancing, to acting to etiquette to medical knowledge) would spring up soon enough. (Which in turn leads me to wonder if scholarships would be offered? And by what basis would they be awarded, and by whom?)

    Meh... I'm out of steam here for the moment. But I'm curious as to you folks' thoughts. What problems can you think of that would need to be regulated? What changes would we as a society need to make in order to do this? Secret President Gore would indeed legalize it if I could. But I'm open to suggestions. How could we make this a viable social change?


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    Re: Porn legal. Prostitution illegal. What gives?

    Al Gore, if he was running for President, would NEVER advocate legalizing prostitution. It's far too polarizing an issue for a national candidate to take a radical position on. Prostitution legalization, if and when it happens, will happen at the state level - there will never be federal laws (point in fact, there generally are no federal laws now).

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    Re: Porn legal. Prostitution illegal. What gives?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeE
    Al Gore, if he was running for President, would NEVER advocate legalizing prostitution. It's far too polarizing an issue for a national candidate to take a radical position on. Prostitution legalization, if and when it happens, will happen at the state level - there will never be federal laws (point in fact, there generally are no federal laws now).
    Nonononono

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    Re: Porn legal. Prostitution illegal. What gives?

    OK, I can go with that.

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    It's my understanding that porn actresses are actually paid for signing the contracts that allow the video companies to distribute the films. Therefore, they're not technically being paid for sex. That's how porn companies get around prostitution laws.

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