What is everyone's problem with Echo?

[Murdock's Girl]

This is stemming from the guys in from my LCS who work in the same building as me- we have a tendency to take our lunches together and talk 'shop'.

anyway, both of the guys are pissed at the Ronin/Echo thing. I really don't get this .


First off, what is everyone's problem with her? I think David made a fucking awsome character that doesn't rip off, doesn't mirror, doesn't seem like any other charcter in the marvel U (which, is a feat in and of itself). I remember when 'vision quest' came out and people (even from these boards...) said they were going to drop DD because of the whole echo thing.

now im hearing the same things again.....these guys from my LCS are devote Avengers fans....Daredevil fans and are dropping NA because of Echo. Why? I couldn't get a straight answer out of either of them. Except one thing- why did she join the team as Ronin and not Echo?
Well...hmm... good question and if you didn't read 'parts of a hole' I could understand the confusion. Here is my thing (and I think i remember seeing brian saying this somewhere) is the fact that she has a huge tie to Fisk. If she comes into the team as Echo- she wouldn't be able to help them because alot of the 'bad guys' know her as the kingpin's 'kid'. As Ronin she eliminates that problem. Etc etc.


so someone tell me....why are people having an issue with Echo? It is just not now because of the Ronin thing.....its been going on for awhile.

Tess/MG

ps. Someone asked if Echo appeared in a movie somewhere. No she didn't. the closest thing would be the playground fight sequence in the DD movie. That sequence was in parts of a hole and had DD fighting Echo, not Elektra.

[DeadMike]

I dunno what their problem is with Echo. Then again I don't read NA.
But I loved her in both of her DD runs. Great character. In fact once I heard that Echo was/is Ronin I'm considering going and picking up those NA back issues.

[WayOfTheStrega]

You know, i can agree with your comment. I hate everyone rippin' on Echo. I think she's a fantabulous character. But everyone has different tastes, and I guess for some, Echo doesn't fit into their idea of a superhero. *shrugs*

[JKCarrier]

You never know what's going to rub people the wrong way. In the case of the "vision quest" storyline, I think some people just resented that Echo essentially replaced Daredevil as the star of the book for several issues. "If I'm buying Daredevil, I wanna see Daredevil, darn it!". Didn't bother me... Echo (and Mack) was the reason I picked up those issues in the first place.

On the Ronin thing, I dunno... maybe they were hoping it would turn out to be some other favorite character of theirs, and they were mad that it was Echo instead?

[dimeshop]

I think Echo is awesome. I had never read anything Mack did before Parts of a Hole, and I thought it was awesome. Vision quest was good as well, but different.

I think it's great that Bendis is using her in NA. I think it's going to be really interesting.

[Diana]

Me: totally out of the loop and not having money to buy anything other than DD. So this is news to me! Me thinks based on this I'll definiltely get the TPB of NA! Cause me likes Echo.

[DeadMike]

It's kinda funny I was reading the same thread in Bendis' message board and some people were saying they were going to drop the book after the Echo reveal. But here in Mack's thread a couple people are considering picking up the book now knowing that Echo is in it. Well I hope it all evens out or that even more people jump on.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

my problem with Echo in Avengers?
it's not Mack

[copypastepuke]

was this also posted on bendis's side of the internet?

i just dont know if i responded or not.....

[dimeshop]

my problem with Echo in Avengers?
it's not Mack

It's not Mack handling Echo creatively or it's not Mack in the Avengers?

THAT would have been a choice no one would have seen coming.