All-Star Batman and Robin #2 is crap

**Kefky** · 09-14-2005, 07:43 AM

Frank Miller has officially forgotten the difference between "cool" over-the-top, and "really-stupid-and-lame-aimed-at-10-year-olds-looking-for-soft-porn-and-mindless-violence" over-the-top.

Spoilers:

Batman kills all the crooked cops without a second tought. He also smacks Robin around and calls him a retard.

So now we get the choice between stupid jerk and completely neurotic Batman and insane, nihilistic Batman! Thanks, DC!

**Evan the Shaggy** · 09-14-2005, 07:47 AM

I'll pick up this issue but from what you've said and the story from the first issue, I'm thinking of dropping it.

My theory is that Frank Miller is secretly making really bad stories for DC in order to gain retribution for the comics industry "stealing" the grim and gritty genre from him.

**Seltzer Water** · 09-14-2005, 07:47 AM

oh well, he has met my low expectations

**Olivier E.** · 09-14-2005, 07:49 AM

**Kefky** · 09-14-2005, 07:49 AM

For the record, I enjoyed the first issue. I didn't love it, but I tought it was solid. But this was just... yea....

Still have high hopes AS Supes, though.

**PoWerSurge** · 09-14-2005, 07:50 AM

Quick Batman History Question

Has he ever killed in main continuity?

**LenNWallace** · 09-14-2005, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Evan The Shaggy

My theory is that Frank Miller is secretly making really bad stories for DC in order to gain retribution for the comics industry "stealing" the grim and gritty genre from him.

Agreed. I refuse to believe Frank could have REALLY gone this insane.

**Gregory** · 09-14-2005, 07:51 AM

The beatings will continue until morale improves. On your feet, soldier! You're in a war now!

And Lee Ermey will play Batman in the movie adaptation.

**McAfee** · 09-14-2005, 07:55 AM

I'll pick this one up, but if it turns out as bad as the last one, I'm officially done reading Batman for awhile.

**DonFanucci** · 09-14-2005, 07:59 AM

Frank Miller has officially forgotten the difference between "cool" over-the-top, and "really-stupid-and-lame-aimed-at-10-year-olds-looking-for-soft-porn-and-mindless-violence" over-the-top.

Spoilers:
Batman kills all the crooked cops without a second tought. He also smacks Robin around and calls him a retard.

So now we get the choice between stupid jerk and completely neurotic Batman and insane, nihilistic Batman! Thanks, DC!

He's doing it to "toughen" the kid up... to scare the shit out of him now so he doesn't shit his pants when he's really in danger....makes sense to me.... why not?

The reaction to this book shows that you really can't win as a writer. People hate it when Bats is too light, they want him dark, psychotic, etc.... so here a dark Batman... but apparently it's too dark....

most people can't stand Robin, so now here's Miller doing something different with a character that most people don't like, again something dark and different... and it gets a bad reaction.

I'm happy Batman is kicking the crap out of Robin... most people can't stand the character anyway... if this 12 year old gymnast is going to roll with Batman, he should get the crap scared out of him, because he's doing to see some crazy shit that he didn't see in the circus.... and as for Batman killing people..... if any "hero" is going to kill people, it should be Batman....