New Avengers #8 (Spoilers)

**MK2000** · 08-03-2005, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Shwicaz

The Setry's wife's name is Linda. They said that in the last two issues, and in the mini IIRC.

As for the Thor appearance, The Sentry fought alongside Thor in the mini, so I don't buy it. (at least in the flashback issues)

Actually, I wasn't talking about the SENTRY comic that came out five years ago or NA #7, I was talking about the comic shown in NA. Because as pointed out, if Jenkins' SENTRY series from 2000 was published in the MU, it'd have all the info about Spider-Man's ID, etc.

But yeah, if the 2000 series DID happen then the Thor = Sentry thing might not make sense.

**Ryan Elliott** · 08-03-2005, 07:20 PM

The Sentry's wife's name is Lindy.

Which, is a big fucking coincidence.

**nihilance** · 08-03-2005, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by MK2000

Actually, I wasn't talking about the SENTRY comic that came out five years ago or NA #7, I was talking about the comic shown in NA. Because as pointed out, if Jenkins' SENTRY series from 2000 was published in the MU, it'd have all the info about Spider-Man's ID, etc.

But yeah, if the 2000 series DID happen then the Thor = Sentry thing might not make sense.

I mentioned that earlier in the thread. And whether or not the 2000 mini is counted in continuity, the issue today showed the Sentry and Thor together and Sentry even commenting on Thor having no cares.

Of course...it could be argued that the reason The Sentry disappeared for so many years was because he became Thor for those years and it wasn't until Ragnarok that he was able to return as The Sentry. The Void could even be Loki transformed as well...or being Sentry could be an elaborate mindgame that Loki plays on Thor to fuck with his head.

Maybe it's not so cut and dry.

**Dermie** · 08-03-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kirblar

You guys need to read She-Hulk. Comics exist in the Marvel Universe, and are considered historical records.

Actually, that concept was around LONG before the SHE-HULK comic. It started way back in early vol.1 of Fantastic Four--the Marvel Comics company within the Marvel Universe publishes the actual adventures of the heroes, as reported to them (but obviously the comics in the MU aren't the *exact* same as the ones we read, since the MU writers don't know everyone's secret identities).
There was even an issue of FF where the Impossible Man invades the Marvel offices and pesters Stan Lee to do a comic book about him.

Anyway, I really enjoyed this issue...and the scene where

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Jessica tells the guys about her pheromones, and they all react to it was really funny...but I wish that situation had been allowed to play out a bit more first. I think we should have seen other little scenes with Spidey, Luke, Cap, etc lusting after Spider-Woman, and not really understanding why they're so attracted to her---that way the reveal here would have had a bit more impact.

This scene was still really funny, but I think there was some extra comedic potential that was wasted.

As for the end of the issue....

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I can understand why the FF and the X-Men are there--Reed's scientific expertise and Emma's telepathic skills may be of use here. But why are the Inhumans involved? Why do they care about this, and what can they contribute?

**MK2000** · 08-03-2005, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dermie

Actually, that concept was around LONG before the SHE-HULK comic. It started way back in early vol.1 of Fantastic Four--the Marvel Comics company within the Marvel Universe publishes the actual adventures of the heroes, as reported to them (but obviously the comics in the MU aren't the *exact* same as the ones we read, since the MU writers don't know everyone's secret identities).
There was even an issue of FF where the Impossible Man invades the Marvel offices and pesters Stan Lee to do a comic book about him.

Anyway, I really enjoyed this issue...and the scene where

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Jessica tells the guys about her pheromones, and they all react to it was really funny...but I wish that situation had been allowed to play out a bit more first. I think we should have seen other little scenes with Spidey, Luke, Cap, etc lusting after Spider-Woman, and not really understanding why they're so attracted to her---that way the reveal here would have had a bit more impact.

This scene was still really funny, but I think there was some extra comedic potential that was wasted.

As for the end of the issue....

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I can understand why the FF and the X-Men are there--Reed's scientific expertise and Emma's telepathic skills may be of use here. But why are the Inhumans involved? Why do they care about this, and what can they contribute?

I was wondering that too, but since last issue showed the little club that had Reed, Namor, Dr. Strange, Tony, and Black Bolt, I guess since Bolt is part of that club he'd have to bring his Inhumans along.

**Ryan Elliott** · 08-03-2005, 11:14 PM

Well wouldn't YOU bring almost every superpowered being with you if YOU were dealing with the most powerful person on the planet?

I know I would.

**Dermie** · 08-03-2005, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by The Sentry

Well wouldn't YOU bring almost every superpowered being with you if YOU were dealing with the most powerful person on the planet?

I know I would.

But the Inhumans aren't superheroes. They don't generally get involved with things like this--they don't generally get involved with anything unless it impacts Attilan.

It would have made more sense to me if they had called in some of the old Avengers rather than calling in the Inhumans.

**BWC Boston** · 08-03-2005, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Dermie

But the Inhumans aren't superheroes. They don't generally get involved with things like this--they don't generally get involved with anything unless it impacts Attilan.

It would have made more sense to me if they had called in some of the old Avengers rather than calling in the Inhumans.

They're buddies with the FF, and often babysit Franklin and Val. Reed's got a li'l portal in the Baxter Building that goes right to'em. He probably just had them run through it for some additional back-up.

**Ryan Elliott** · 08-03-2005, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dermie

But the Inhumans aren't superheroes. They don't generally get involved with things like this--they don't generally get involved with anything unless it impacts Attilan.

It would have made more sense to me if they had called in some of the old Avengers rather than calling in the Inhumans.

Anything that directly threatens Earth is sooner or later bound to threaten the moon.

But Boston's makes more sense. Just backup.

**dougmac** · 08-04-2005, 03:54 AM

Plus it was nice to see Tony address Thor being gone, something a lot of people complained about from Disassembled (the lack of mention, not the actual being gone)