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    bert saw "Prometheus"

    and damn, if it isn't GORGEOUS to look at.

    Drags a bit in places, and if you stop to think about it after, there are a number of plot holes (or I should say SEEMING plot-holes, since if you think about them a bit, a lot of the answers appear to be included in the film, they simply aren't very easily spelled out for the audience).

    Overall tho? We liked it.

    I'm seeing a lot of C- reviews for it. I'd give it a very solid "B" (maybe even up to a B+).

    No, it's *not* an "Alien" prequel. . . but there is a lot of stuff here that will be familiar to those who have seen that film, so yeah, it definitely set in the same universe, and seems to show the origin of the Alien species, as well as revealing quite a bit about the "space Jockey" race (tho not the same character (or planet) as seen in the Alien film).

    but overall?. . a fun Sci Fi film.

    Worth the 3D just for the Astronomy shots.
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    Beautiful to look at, and incredibly well designed.

    All the characters are dumber than rocks. (Maybe scientists of the future are just really stupid?) The deeper philosophical issues of fatih and life itself are given lip service and then tossed aside without much depth, though this isn't a movie about depth. Prometheus is all surfaces and veneers.

    Very fun regardless. Initial grade for me was a B, but it kinda dropped to a B- when I actually thought about what I just watched.

    Seriously, the characters in this movie are such idiots. Were their grandparents conceived at Camp Crystal Lake?

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    Re: bert saw "Prometheus"

    agreed on the character stupidity -- ESPECIALLY from supposed scientists.

    but thought the acting was fine, across the board (with one exception).

    Rapace and Fassbender both knock it out of the park. Charlize Theron is also fantastic (tho saddled by what she is given to work with in the script, so her motivations make no sense).

    and most of the other actors more than hold their own against them.

    but damn, if Guy Pearce isn't completely and utterly wasted. Honestly, I was kinda embarrassed for him. What a waste of a talented actor!
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    Yeah, Rapace, Fassbender, Theron, and Elba are all great.

    And oh man, totally agreed on Guy Pearce! Why did they squander him like that? I mean, it was so silly.
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    Could they not find an old actor? That age make-up was so awful. He looked like the dancing old man from Six Flags commercials, for heaven's sake!

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    I'm hoping to catch this on Monday. I'm going to go see a Charlize double feature of this and "Snow White and the Huntsman" if all works out.

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    Re: bert saw "Prometheus"

    Guy Pearce was excellent in the Weyland "commercials" that have beenb released over the past few months, they should have found ways to include them (Or similar content) in the film.

    For me, the entire film was...I don't want to say "ruined," but severely hampered by the lack of any thought put into the project. The archeaologists, biologists, etc, were missing basic procedures that exist in present day that would have solved so many of their problems. There were no airlocks on the ship (Airlocks already exist), there are no quarantine facilities (Quarantine procedures and facilities already exist), there was no documentation of evidence (Recording what happens is one of the most basic procedues in any kind of archeological dig; people video tape, take pictures, make tracings and take molds of everything during a dig. Why the frak aren't they recording the video feed?), and they miss even the most basic of caving instructions (As geologists, shouldn't they know rule #1 if you're lost in a cave: stay where you are).

    The retort (Which my father made when I brought these points up) was that if they followed these real-life procedures then they wouldn't have a movie, but that doesn't hold water, since you can have logic and drama in a film. In the original Alien they addressed these issues. For example: When John Hurt (Curses, what's his character's name?) has a facehugger on him, the crew specifically mention quarantine procedures and use the airlock to keep him from getting onto the ship. Ripley then overrides the lockout and lets him on. Bam; in one scene they address that yes, they have airlock facilities and procedures, and they explained why they're not followed in this instance. In this film, they just don't even seem to have the basic safety protocols that already exist.

    Other than that it was an entertaining film, with beautiful visuals and great monster designs, but I just could not get past these few basic points: The second they took off their helemts, which peple don't do on our own planet when we're unsure of what toxins or microbes could be in the atmosphere, I knew I'd spend the whole film seething in my chair as I called them a pack of frigging idiots.
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    Re: bert saw "Prometheus"

    Quote Originally Posted by JBK405 View Post
    Guy Pearce was excellent in the Weyland "commercials" that have beenb released over the past few months, they should have found ways to include them (Or similar content) in the film.

    For me, the entire film was...I don't want to say "ruined," but severely hampered by the lack of any thought put into the project. The archeaologists, biologists, etc, were missing basic procedures that exist in present day that would have solved so many of their problems. There were no airlocks on the ship (Airlocks already exist), there are no quarantine facilities (Quarantine procedures and facilities already exist), there was no documentation of evidence (Recording what happens is one of the most basic procedues in any kind of archeological dig; people video tape, take pictures, make tracings and take molds of everything during a dig. Why the frak aren't they recording the video feed?), and they miss even the most basic of caving instructions (As geologists, shouldn't they know rule #1 if you're lost in a cave: stay where you are).

    The retort (Which my father made when I brought these points up) was that if they followed these real-life procedures then they wouldn't have a movie, but that doesn't hold water, since you can have logic and drama in a film. In the original Alien they addressed these issues. For example: When John Hurt (Curses, what's his character's name?) has a facehugger on him, the crew specifically mention quarantine procedures and use the airlock to keep him from getting onto the ship. Ripley then overrides the lockout and lets him on. Bam; in one scene they address that yes, they have airlock facilities and procedures, and they explained why they're not followed in this instance. In this film, they just don't even seem to have the basic safety protocols that already exist.

    Other than that it was an entertaining film, with beautiful visuals and great monster designs, but I just could not get past these few basic points: The second they took off their helemts, which peple don't do on our own planet when we're unsure of what toxins or microbes could be in the atmosphere, I knew I'd spend the whole film seething in my chair as I called them a pack of frigging idiots.
    Actually Ripley didn't override the quarantine. Dallas ordered her to, but she refused. Ash was the one who let them back on board as I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBK405 View Post
    Why the frak aren't they recording the video feed?), and they miss even the most basic of caving instructions (As geologists, shouldn't they know rule #1 if you're lost in a cave: stay where you are).
    I do remember a few places where it shows they recorded. We see Shaw going over the hologram projections in her and that one guy's room after the first day, for example.

    But yeah, those two guys who got left behind and started exploring made NO SENSE. As soon as I saw that happen I thought, "Welp, here are our first victims."

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    Re: bert saw "Prometheus"

    I also saw it, last week, and I enjoyed it. There was some stuff that did leave a lot of questions, and I still don't really get the part at the start with the engineer at the waterfall (and I don't think I care enough to think about it in any great depth). I agree about the characters being stupid. So stupid. Michael Fassbender was great, probably my favouite in the whole thing. But Guy Pearce...what was going on there? Why was he in this? He looked terrible, the fakest the in the entire movie. But i liked it, it was enjoyable and I don't remember enough about the Alien series to get worked up about anything.
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    Re: bert saw "Prometheus"

    It was a fine movie.
    I really disliked the alien origin and the proto-xenomorph.
    And the scientist where so dumb!
    How could they get lost?A few answers or at least some clues would have been fun to.
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