Question: will the HUGE success of the Avengers movie motivate DC to do a JLA flick?

[Slewo.O]

I don't remember there being any confirmation on that actress being Sharon.

[malOnine]

Just pick a nice looking actress that looks a bit like Wonder Woman, give the production people a couple of hundred million dollars and make the friggin movie!.

That's just the sort of mentality that gives you an uneven film like Green Lantern.

[Ray G.]

That doesn't sound right.

For one thing, he was pushing Colbie Smulders to be Wonder Woman, who was 27 at the time he was writing it.

Secondly, here is what he wrote about the core themes:



http://rookiemag.com/2011/11/yay-geo...joss-whedon/3/

The Teen Wonder Woman (who was actually Donna Troy) was the Joel Silver idea, I believe. Then there was an attempt at a WW2 Wonder Woman. I don't know that we ever heard too much about the actual plot of Whedon's version.

[malOnine]

I say, give it to a directer that actually cares about the character. Give it to a writer that really knows their stuff. The rest will fall into place.

They did, but then they didn't care for Joss' version of WW. I mean, it was a super-hero film set in WWII. Who would see that?

[Ray G.]

They did, but then they didn't care for Joss' version of WW. I mean, it was a super-hero film set in WWII. Who would see that?

I think Cap is far more associated with WW2 in people's minds than Wonder Woman is these days. For one thing, it hasn't been part of her origin at all in almost 30 years.

A Wonder Woman movie basically needs to be Clash of the Titans with a female lead, only done right.

[Corrina]

I think Cap is far more associated with WW2 in people's minds than Wonder Woman is these days. For one thing, it hasn't been part of her origin at all in almost 30 years.

A Wonder Woman movie basically needs to be Clash of the Titans with a female lead, only done right.

The general public pretty much only remembers the TV show for particular WW storylines.

Thus, they remember WW in World War II.

[Corrina]

You know, there's also the arguement that Nolan kind of won the Batman pitch BECAUSE his movies went in the 'grounded' direction because WB was looking to completely erase the bad taste left by "Batman and Robin" -- which went WAY over the top on the camp and 'superheroy-ness'.

Also, I'd argue that Batman is, originally, the wrong place to be looking for "Wonder".

I mean, could you find that wonder in the Tim Burton Batmans? Or in the Schumakers?

Bats is kind of already too grounded. He already has a suspicion in any power that he can't have, make, or do himself. He's not the kind of character who is going to do great feats. He's the kind of character who will skulk in the shadows and knock the villain in the back of the head with a batarang when the guy's not looking.

While Batman has his sense of honor he's.... well.... He's a bastard at heart. And a dirty fighter.

If Frank Miller can do it--Batman saves a CAT! in Year One---then anyone can do it.

Mostly, I have a problem with Nolan's visuals during fight sequences. It didn't help that i'd already seen the hostage/bad guy duct tape switch on a television show.
Actually, Burton's Batman does have that moment, where Joker turns around and says "where does he get those wonderful toys?" I'd say the Burton Batman did wonder in the gothic horror manner, especially with the design of Gotham City, which is still being used. It's not my favorite film but Burton, at the time, did the visuals better with Batman than Nolan does. Nolan's fight scenes are always muddled to me.

[Slewo.O]

If Frank Miller can do it--Batman saves a CAT! in Year One---then anyone can do it.

Mostly, I have a problem with Nolan's visuals during fight sequences. It didn't help that i'd already seen the hostage/bad guy duct tape switch on a television show.
Actually, Burton's Batman does have that moment, where Joker turns around and says "where does he get those wonderful toys?" I'd say the Burton Batman did wonder in the gothic horror manner, especially with the design of Gotham City, which is still being used. It's not my favorite film but Burton, at the time, did the visuals better with Batman than Nolan does. Nolan's fight scenes are always muddled to me.

I have to agree, while the storyline itself is schizophrenic, Burton's Gotham is what Gotham would feel like to me.

[JTPencils]

Let's be honest here, a big chunk of that success came from the single-hero movies that came before this one. We're looking at about a decade worth of promotion here, and DC will see that too. They know they will have to do the single-hero movies before they can do a Justice League one, and the rather brilliant way Marvel has done this will make it only harder. I mean, they can't even get Superman right (maybe this time?) and he's their second biggest IP after Batman. Nevermind Wonder Woman, which, at least in their eyes, can't even hold her own tv show.

I'll predict we won't ever see a Justice League movie made out of the classical Justice League characters. Rather, they'll make one including all the characters they have managed to put into the wider public's mind up to that point. At the moment it looks like this is going to be Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman (I think they'll at least try to get a movie with her out), Flash (who is getting a movie soon, afaIk), Green Arrow (IF the tv show gets off the ground, and there will maybe a movie), Black Canary (on the wave alongside with GA), and that's about it. Aquaman would have a VERY hard time getting a movie treatment, MArtian Manhunter isn't known at all to the wider public, and you can forget about the Atom or Hawkman. Mind you, maybe we'll get Blue Beetle, if they finally manage to make the tv show.

QFT

Zemo... you nailed this one right on the head. For DC to get a quality JLA film out there (that COULD test the Avengers #'s).. they'd need several successful solo films first. And those things don't exactly squirt out in a few months! So sadly, I don't see a JLA film around for some time to come... if ever. Sad too... because I feel it could be done well... just a matter of putting the right people in front of as well as behind the cameras.

[t.c.johnson]

I usually don't like superhero movies because, in the past, I've had trouble getting post how hokey the real-life looks next to the comic book art & panels.

But the special effects have gotten so good that it's become far less of a problem for me. And I was thinking about why I loved the Avengers so damn much. As much as I loved the first Iron Man, I liked this better.

I think the reasons are twofold:
1. There's a moment where each and every one of them get to be a "hero," and I mean that in the truest sense of the word.
2. There's a sense of wonder that permeates the film. It doesn't overwhelm it, as they're all still very human, but it adds in the "super" part better than any movie since the first Superman.

The tagline for the first Superman film was "you will believe a man can fly." And we did. Superman's rescue of Lois' copter remains a classic.

You just reminders me of the scene in Iron Man where Tony was flying around his garage for the first time. I love that scene for the sheer joy he was showing the audience.