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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by R0cketFr0g View Post
    You don't understand. Tibbitz was home schooled.
    Well, that changes everything.
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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Again the conversation about editors is all well in good, but I think that's a different conversation altogether.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Tindall View Post
    What people think they hate at the beginning, they often come to love.
    Acquired taste eh?

    Yeah, but that can be a crap shoot, and not something that any author should rely on, not if he or she still wants to have a career in what they are doing.

    And I find more often then not people grow to love something because that something has improved, like the USA network, or Ted Turner's networks.




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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by R0cketFr0g View Post
    You don't understand. Tibbitz was home schooled.
    And his mother said he was the best-est of the best-est-est.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sy-Klone View Post
    First draft of TIP's eulogy:
    "And so we commit this hairy man to the ground. Like his beloved Cerebus, TIP passed from this mortal coil two issues sooner than we'd have preferred. We were never promised those final two issues. Life, like Sim, can be utterly indecipherable."

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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    Again the conversation about editors is all well in good, but I think that's a different conversation altogether.



    Acquired taste eh?

    Yeah, but that can be a crap shoot, and not something that any author should rely on, not if he or she still wants to have a career in what they are doing.

    And I find more often then not people grow to love something because that something has improved, like the USA network, or Ted Turner's networks.
    Remember Gruenwald's Maxim:

    The writer's job is to give the [audience] what they want, not what they say they want, and to give it to them in a way they don't expect.
    People think I have got the power cause I've got the monkeys. Nope. I've got the power because I'll let the monkeys loose...

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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by I've Got the Monkeys View Post
    Remember Gruenwald's Maxim:

    The writer's job is to give the [audience] what they want, not what they say they want, and to give it to them in a way they don't expect.
    Yes, but if the don't want it, and keep saying they don't want it, then odds are they will quit buying, watching, or reading something they don't want. Sales plummet, ratings drop, and you find a series coming to an end a lot quicker then you anticipated. And forgive my ignorance, but who is Gruewald?




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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    The late and, in my opinion, great Mark Gruenwald. Long time writer on Captain America and one of my all-time favorite Marvel series, Quasar.
    Writer. Mom. Geek & Superhero.

    "She felt tears well up in her eyes. No more of that. She wasn’t some dumb kid being used as a lab rat anymore. She was Noir now. She had power. She had freedom. Fuck self-pity."
    From Luminous, a superhero novella coming in May from Samhain Publishing

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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    Yes, but if the don't want it, and keep saying they don't want it, then odds are they will quit buying something they don't want. And forgive my ignorance, but who is Gruewald?
    Yes, but even if they say they want it, when they get it they won't buy it because the tension is gone, or it wasn't what they actually did want, or they're not interested anymore.
    Mark Gruenwald was an Assistant Editor, an Editor, The Executive Editor of Marvel, the writer of Captain America for over ten years, writer of Quasar, the man who wrote the seminal Squadron Supreme Maxi-series, amongst other hats.
    People think I have got the power cause I've got the monkeys. Nope. I've got the power because I'll let the monkeys loose...

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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by I've Got the Monkeys View Post
    Yes, but even if they say they want it, when they get it they won't buy it because the tension is gone, or it wasn't what they actually did want, or they're not interested anymore.
    Mark Gruenwald was an Assistant Editor, an Editor, The Executive Editor of Marvel, the writer of Captain America for over ten years, writer of Quasar, the man who wrote the seminal Squadron Supreme Maxi-series, amongst other hats.
    Yes, but was he Home-Schooled?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sy-Klone View Post
    First draft of TIP's eulogy:
    "And so we commit this hairy man to the ground. Like his beloved Cerebus, TIP passed from this mortal coil two issues sooner than we'd have preferred. We were never promised those final two issues. Life, like Sim, can be utterly indecipherable."

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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by I've Got the Monkeys View Post
    Yes, but even if they say they want it, when they get it they won't buy it because the tension is gone, or it wasn't what they actually did want, or they're not interested anymore.
    Mark Gruenwald was an Assistant Editor, an Editor, The Executive Editor of Marvel, the writer of Captain America for over ten years, writer of Quasar, the man who wrote the seminal Squadron Supreme Maxi-series, amongst other hats.
    Yes and that is a valid point. On the other hand lets look at Wonder Woman on the JMS/Jim Lee run. Many people did not care for JMS's story, did not like where it was going, and this....



    Looks like Diana is going through a midlife crisis and has just raided Cassie's wardrobe.

    You'll notice that DC has currently dropped that costume.

    Anyway point I'm trying make here is there is a difference between just caving in and giving your audience what they specifically want, and continuing to push what they don't want.
    Last edited by Tyr; 05-08-2012 at 07:47 PM.




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    Re: To Bendis, Gail, and other comic writers, about fame.

    Quote Originally Posted by BENDIS! View Post
    fame has nothing to do with anything in my life or my work or why i do what i do. and there's a big difference between famous and comic book famous
    I remember the Kevin Smith interview of Stan Lee, I believe Stan said at the begging of it, "I feel rather silly, I should be the one interviewing you."




    "You really can't ignore Bendis, especially when he shoots you in the face with a sniper rifle in Call of Duty." ~Brubaker

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