I saw the Avengers--MASSIVE SPOILERS INSIDE.

**Stressfactor** · 05-06-2012, 03:26 PM

Great. Now that you've all seen "The Avengers" go see Aardman animations "The Pirates! Band of Misfits!"

This is a really great little movie that is going to get killed by the Avengers and it really, really, REALLY doesn't deserve it.

Riverdancing rats.

David Tennant as Charles Darwin.

And a sequence set to The Clash's "London Calling"... and the song makes it FUNNIER.

Go! See! Laugh! Support British humor! And for Das n Danger one of the pirates is an albino! And he's sweet. A little dim but sweet.

**CutterMike** · 05-06-2012, 03:40 PM

My ex- (We went as a family group: me, her and her boyfriend, our daughter and son-in-law) may have discovered an interesting, REALLY well-buried Easter egg. I don't KNOW that Whedon is devious enough for this, but I wouldn't put it past him.

As we were watching te film, she looked at the "64" fleet number on the helicarrier and, coming from a naval family, asked me if that was the fleet number of the Enterprise -- she seemed to think that it might have been. I didn't know offhand, but it sounded about right.

Turned out that the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier "Enterprise" is officially the CVN-65 so -- close, but no cigar.

In her searching, however, she found something interesting. There were actually TWO U. S. aircraft carriers with the number 64. One was the U.S.S. Constellation, a diesel-turbine vessel launched in the early '60s and decommissioned in 2003.

The OTHER one, however, was a lot more interesting. In its original form, it was a side-wheel paddle boat built in 1913 as an excursion steamer on the Great Lakes and named the Ceeandbee, for its operator, the Cleveland and Buffalo Trancit Company.

During WW II, the navy acquired it and converted it to an aircraft carrier for use on Lake Michigan as a training vessel for student pilots practicing carrier landings and take-offs. When it was recommissioned, it was given the vessel ID number IX-64.

Oh, and it got a new name, as well. The Wolverine.

Is the helicarrier a side-wheeler...? Well, yeah... sorta... Did Wolverine make it into the Avengers movie as he has in the comics...? Ma-a-a-aybe...

It really depends on just how geeky and devious Joss Whedon is.

**Thequeerjock** · 05-06-2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by KalenO

I'm also of the camp that firmly expects Phil Coulson to be brought back at some point. Actually, my bet is he's going to turn out to be the movie-verse version of the Vision. I would not be surprised at all if in this canon, Tony Stark ends up creating the Vision based off Coulson's brain waves like Pym originally based him off of Wonder Man's.

I just saw a site reporting that, and I must admit it's a very random but somewhat interesting concept. If they expand the team in a sequel, I'd like to see how they go about it. Stan Lee said he's pulling for Ant-Man and Black Panther but I still have my doubts about how effectively you could do Ant-Man in a live-action film.

**Hugin** · 05-06-2012, 04:03 PM

I'm hoping for Anya Corazon. It would get you a quippy webslinger without a legal battle with Sony, and she'd be awesome in it. Plus, if Whedon gets to expand the team, I expect him to go with as many awesome female chars as he can.

**Slewo.O** · 05-06-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hugin

I'm hoping for Anya Corazon. It would get you a quippy webslinger without a legal battle with Sony, and she'd be awesome in it. Plus, if Whedon gets to expand the team, I expect him to go with as many awesome female chars as he can.

I like Anya, but let's face it, that would be even less likely than Ant-Man appearing. Especially if you just make her girl Spidey.

**Thequeerjock** · 05-06-2012, 04:10 PM

They're obviously gonna need Squirrel Girl.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MFz0z7jVEK...+vs+Thanos.jpg

**CutterMike** · 05-06-2012, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Thequeerjock

They're obviously gonna need Squirrel Girl.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MFz0z7jVEK...+vs+Thanos.jpg

I'm not sure what she did to him, but Thanos has flames coming out of his butt.

**KalenO** · 05-06-2012, 04:24 PM

Honestly, my only complaint with the cast was I thought Maria Hill's role could have been just as adequately covered by a pre-powers Carol Danvers, and set her up for inclusion in later movies. They definitely need at least another female character in the sequel, and Ms. Marvel seems a MUCH better choice than Wasp, She-Hulk, or any of the other obvious choices. Unless of course they bring in Wanda. (Producer Kevin Feige revealed a few weeks ago that Marvel Studios and Fox Studios now share rights to Wanda and Pietro, so they can appear in both future X-Men movies for Fox as well as future Avengers movies).

As for Ant Man, my problem with Pym is when you have limited space in your cast you want to avoid overlap as much as possible. They already have two super scientists with Stark and Banner, and even if they lose Banner in sequels, do we really need to repeat his role with yet another super scientist? Plus, I think Pym's Giant Man incarnation would work much better in the environment they've established, and his powerset doesn't really add anything Hulk and Thor can't already do better.

**Thequeerjock** · 05-06-2012, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by KalenO

Honestly, my only complaint with the cast was I thought Maria Hill's role could have been just as adequately covered by a pre-powers Carol Danvers, and set her up for inclusion in later movies. They definitely need at least another female character in the sequel, and Ms. Marvel seems a MUCH better choice than Wasp, She-Hulk, or any of the other obvious choices. Unless of course they bring in Wanda. (Producer Kevin Feige revealed a few weeks ago that Marvel Studios and Fox Studios now share rights to Wanda and Pietro, so they can appear in both future X-Men movies for Fox as well as future Avengers movies).

As for Ant Man, my problem with Pym is when you have limited space in your cast you want to avoid overlap as much as possible. They already have two super scientists with Stark and Banner, and even if they lose Banner in sequels, do we really need to repeat his role with yet another super scientist? Plus, I think Pym's Giant Man incarnation would work much better in the environment they've established, and his powerset doesn't really add anything Hulk and Thor can't already do better.

Well for the longest time, the rumor was that the Ant-Man movie (which apparently IS still is in the works) had Scott Lang as the lead so there could be less overlap if they do indeed go that route.

With Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, I think the problem might be that even though they could use them, they likely can't make any mention of Magneto and possibly Mutants in general.

I'm also not sure if they could include a niche for Black Panther since Captain America can do a lot of the same stuff.

**Matt_Y** · 05-06-2012, 04:39 PM

I don't imagine Marvel will include Ant Man until Edgar Wright either makes his movie or abandons it.

ETA: I have a suspicion the Maria Hill is going to be the new Agent Coulson-type character who shows up in every solo movie and ties them together. I believe Colbie Smulders is signed for multiple films.