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Thread: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    I am also against them. I had to wear one all through school and it sucked. They do not stop bullying, not at all. Other schools would mock you for having an uglier uniform, or schools with no uniform would mock you for having one at all. They are, as Glitterpill said, freaking expensive. And they are quit honestly very shoddily made, over here anyway. Expensive ugly skirt, ugly jumper, itchy shirts, a tie, choice of expensive ugly and useless jacket types in our school, and in my final year extremely ugly pants became available, also poorly made. there were all sorts of dress codes in my school that were being broken all the time, like girls slathering on the make-up, shoes that were a couple cm too high, skirts all rolled up (which made them uglier coz they were pleated and did not take to being rolled-up very well). You spend your time washing it, coz you gotta wear it 5 days a week. It's too cold in winter and hot and itchy in summer. You have to wear the same shoes too to match the uniform and they get eaten through so you gotta buy two pairs to rotate, and more pairs as the year progresses, and school shoes are also so very ugly. I would have much preferred to be sitting in school for 8 hours wearing something comfortable. And if something happened to your uniform, even something tiny, it would be noticed. You'd stick out like a sore thumb, one person in 900, and that's not a great feeling.
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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiffy View Post
    Do we have statistics on what percentage of porn is based on schoolgirls in these outfits?

    Or even non-porn. Thanks Britney Spears, for that music video breakthrough, all those years ago.
    That video came out around the time I started high school. Greeeeat image to start with there.

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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    Personally, I voted yes to uniforms.

    I went to a catholic HS that had uniforms. The cool thing with my hs was that it was that they knew some parents couldn't afford the really expensive stuff so they had this policy: White dress shirts/polo shirts, navy/grey dress pants/skirts, black shoes, navy/grey sweater. That was it. No name brands.

    Another thing, a lot of you say that you lose one's individualality when in uniform. Not really. At least in my school it wasn't. A lot of the kids found ways to express themselves as individuals while they where in uniform. they made their own style which in turn made them more uniqe in a way.

    As for the bullying, my school had a no tolorence for that any kind of behaviour. I remember in grade 11 a group of grade 12 girls thought it would be funny to start a 'hazing' week for the 9'ers. Me and a group of friends ran around the school warning the grade 9's about it - don't go donw certain halls, blah, blah, blah. Someone must have told the principle 'cuz she was livid. the next day those girls who did the hazing got suspended for close to a month and the cops were called in - I mean, it was serious. They had given 2 niners a swirlly in a dirty toilet. Poor girls.

    Granted, some of us pulled some funny pranks (myself included). Me and some friends told this 9'er that there was a third floor swiming pool. A few days later the kid came wearing his swim trunks and was asking about the pool. hehehehehe...anyways that's beside the point.

    I remember the kids in my school as being very supportive too. I had a friend who was gay - it was hard cuz you know, gay and catholic don't mix. The kids were awsome. They never ever made my friend feel infierior or less than. It was the opposite.

    I think it creates a sort of solidaraty among your peers. Everyone looks the same/ wears the same thing so no one is better then or less than the other. That was the enviornment I had in HS. My school had serious school spirit when it came to the student body.
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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    Quote Originally Posted by GlitterPill View Post
    That video came out around the time I started high school. Greeeeat image to start with there.
    Wow...I think my school missed that. My school was made up of 4 groups.

    Gino's
    The Grunge
    Emo's
    and The Polish Mafia

    But then again, this was almost 15 years ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Scandal View Post
    Personally, I voted yes to uniforms.

    I went to a catholic HS that had uniforms. The cool thing with my hs was that it was that they new some parents couldn't afford the really expensive stuff so they had this policy: White dress shirts/polo shirts, navy/grey dress pants/skirts, black shoes, navy/grey sweater. That was it. No name brands.

    Another thing, a lot of you say that you lose one's individualality when in uniform. Not really. At least in my school it wasn't. A lot of the kids found ways to express themselves as individuals while where the uniform. they made their own style which in turn made them more uniqe in a way.

    As for the bullying, my school had a no tolorence for that any kind of behaviour. I remember in grade 11 a group of grade 12 girls thought it would be funny to start 'hazing' week for the niners. Me and a group of friends ran around the school warning the grade 9's about it - don't go donw certain halls, blah, blah, blah. Someone must have told the principle 'cuz she was livid. the next day those girls who did the hazing got suspended for close to a month - I mean, it was serious. They had given 2 niners a swirlly in a dirty toilet.

    I remember the kids in my school as being very supportive too. I had a friend who was gay - it was hard cuz you know, gay and catholic don't mix. The kids were awsome. They never ever made my friend feel infierior or less than. It was the opposite.

    Aside from the safty issues, I think it creates a sort of solidaraty among your peers. Everyone looks the same/ wears the same thing so no one is better then or less than the other. That was the enviornment I had in HS.
    That kind of uniform policy I can get behind, that gives parents a more affordable option, and kids a more comfortable one. Because we at least go to go elsewhere for pants, I ended up wearing what were essentially trouser-cut sweatpants most days because they were so comfy, and the big baggy school sweatshirt because it was the only item you didn't have to tuck in. We also got to wear whatever shoes we wanted, so I rocked my knee-high off-brand Doc Marten-type boots when I was wearing the kilt. I bought them with my birthday money specifically to wear with it the summer before I started high school.

    Sadly, being in a small, rural town my school wasn't so much with the accepting stuff. I once got called a feminist as an insult once. All in all, my high school (and all school before it, aside from kindergarten) sucked, but the high school uniforms weren't really part of that equation. I actually kind of liked it some days.

    I don't think all schools should have them, but it could definitely be an option brought up every so often to parents and students. And it should definitely be more like the policy Scandal mentioned- a strict guide naming particular articles of clothing, not what my school had. Maybe even let the kids opt for school-logo t-shirts or something a bit more streetwear-y.

    However, I still think the "no bare shoulders" rule during civvies days was beyond stupid. -.-

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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    "All in all you're just another brick in the wall..."

    I think that any school requiring uniforms should have to pay 100% of the cost of such uniforms for all students. Anything else is economic discrimination.
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    I have to agree that the unifroms should be paid for by the government. That would also make them extremely cheap in the end. And with the government you can make sure they won't buy cheap cloth made with child labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Scandal View Post
    Wow...I think my school missed that.
    Okay, here it is then.

    Really, while this seems tame now, back then it was a big scandalous deal.


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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiffy View Post
    Okay, here it is then.

    Really, while this seems tame now, back then it was a big scandalous deal.

    It was way after my time. I think it came out when my sister was in grade 11 or 12. By then I was long gone. Thank god...

    I hated the video back then and I still hate it now.

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    Re: School uniforms: Yay or Nay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison_Lad View Post
    The funny thing is that years ago when I was in HS, if you had told me that I would one day support the idea of uniforms, I would have told you to go and get therapy. I went to public school, so we didn't have uniforms. But there were many private schools in the area, both Catholic and non-Catholic, so I was very familiar with uniforms. I had some friends who went to an area Catholic school in fact, and they hated having to wear the uniforms. So, we even discussed the matter.

    But now, my opinion has very much changed.
    Same here. My HS self would have probably called me a sellout. But I think there are more pros than cons with uniforms. Trust me, it won't take away from self expression. A child or a teenager will ALWAYS find a way to express themselves if they want to, clothes be damned. But I think it helps put a person in a kind of headspace. Whether the student likes it or not, it marks them as part of a group. And as someone already mentioned, it does make the parents' jobs a little easier, which is always nice.

    And as a side note, I wouldn't mind working at a place that required uniforms now, so long as the company paid for it. I think of my "professional attire" as a uniform anyway, because I'd never dress like this on the street if I had a choice. I'm a tee & jeans kinda gal, you know?
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