Dredge up Some Old Comic Book Characters and Pitch a New Comic With Them...

**The Funketeer** · 04-27-2012, 04:19 PM

I'd love to write a D-Man story elevates him above the joke status he endures right now.

**RobStaeger** · 04-27-2012, 04:46 PM

I don't need a full series, but I really want to see The Hopper again. He was a Green Arrow villain in the second Seven Soldiers of Victory adventure, from 1942. He hopped around on a pogo stick to break into high windows...giving him very strong legs. And at one point, he pogo'd into his own henchman's throat to teach him a lesson!

If Ann Nocenti could write an updated Hopper into Green Arrow, I'd buy the heck out of that issue.

**RachelEvil** · 04-27-2012, 09:25 PM

I've often wanted to bring back The Eye.

**Morrison_Lad** · 04-30-2012, 12:34 AM

Vibe, Paco Ramone, is still from Detroit. But he was never in a gang. He started out as a very concerned high school kid who wanted to improve the city's situation. He worked with a fellow student, Karla Mellows, who has the same concerns. They both come from poor neighborhoods with myriad boarded up and burned out houses. They create a group to both help the members of their community directly (food drives, adult literacy, etc.) as well as lobby the city government for help with the many problems.

Paco and Karla become close friends, but as time passes Karla realizes that Paco is gay. Because of the culture of the Latinos in Detroit, this is something that, despite his courage, Paco doesn't feel comfortable being out front about. Karla keeps his secret, but despite this, and despite that they never have PDAs or anything resembling a relationship beyond friendship, many of their classmates believe they are a couple.

One night, as they are trying to help an older lady who had been mugged, Paco gets knocked out. As Karla is trying to fight off the assailants (she's a brown-belt in karate -- which she learned at the community centre; more on the guy who runs that later), Vibe begins to emit his vibrations, and between those, and Karla kicking ass, and just the weirdness of the whole situation, the muggers run off. They obviously save the lady.

But later that night, as Karla is tending to Paco's wounds, she explains the inexplicable to him: that he was emitting these powerful vibrational forces. Neither of them understand it, but they have faith enough in the priest, Father Daniels, who runs the Community Centre, to try and tell him what happened. He explains that he has known for a long time of Paco's powers, but he needed him to discover them on his own. They are both shocked.

Paco and Karla fight crime in Detroit as a team, battling both gangs and crime lords, but also fighting the city government and its corruption; of course, with the help of Father Daniels.

**Patrick Gerard** · 04-30-2012, 01:21 AM

For reference's sake, when I pushed the idea of Superboy-Prime as a villain and Kal-L returning to see the universe as corrupted to folks at DC back in 2003-2004, in my version, Kal-L was right. Everything I pitched that somebody else did a take on, the message got inverted.

*sigh*

That's how out of step I am.

**Stressfactor** · 04-30-2012, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Morrison_Lad

Vibe, Paco Ramone, is still from Detroit. But he was never in a gang. He started out as a very concerned high school kid who wanted to improve the city's situation. He worked with a fellow student, Karla Mellows, who has the same concerns. They both come from poor neighborhoods with myriad boarded up and burned out houses. They create a group to both help the members of their community directly (food drives, adult literacy, etc.) as well as lobby the city government for help with the many problems.

Paco and Karla become close friends, but as time passes Karla realizes that Paco is gay. Because of the culture of the Latinos in Detroit, this is something that, despite his courage, Paco doesn't feel comfortable being out front about. Karla keeps his secret, but despite this, and despite that they never have PDAs or anything resembling a relationship beyond friendship, many of their classmates believe they are a couple.

One night, as they are trying to help an older lady who had been mugged, Paco gets knocked out. As Karla is trying to fight off the assailants (she's a brown-belt in karate -- which she learned at the community centre; more on the guy who runs that later), Vibe begins to emit his vibrations, and between those, and Karla kicking ass, and just the weirdness of the whole situation, the muggers run off. They obviously save the lady.

But later that night, as Karla is tending to Paco's wounds, she explains the inexplicable to him: that he was emitting these powerful vibrational forces. Neither of them understand it, but they have faith enough in the priest, Father Daniels, who runs the Community Centre, to try and tell him what happened. He explains that he has known for a long time of Paco's powers, but he needed him to discover them on his own. They are both shocked.

Paco and Karla fight crime in Detroit as a team, battling both gangs and crime lords, but also fighting the city government and its corruption; of course, with the help of Father Daniels.

You kind of had me up until Father Daniels being a Karate teaching priest.

You see, I used to work for nuns and met a LOT of nuns and priests over the years and the idea of ANY of them being a black belt in Karate just makes me giggle.

Also, just FYI for anyone who ever wants to use nuns or priests in stories they're doing... please do your research.

I'm not Catholic, I think the Catholic church as a heirarchy has done some damn scuzzy stuff over the years but I have a metric crap ton of respect for a LOT of nuns out there. And something that pushes my puttons is seeing people still drawing them in the full habit -- most nuns have gone to a MUCH more simplified outfit and many don't even wear the coif -- the head covering -- anymore. And some orders of priests and nuns have their vocations as working with the poor but others are strictly school teachers or contemplative and so wouldn't be working at/running soup kitchens. Also, portraying them all as out-of-touch with the rest of the world also pushes my buttons. I personally used to know a nun who worked as a lobbyist in Washington. Her job was to play politics on behalf of the poor and the voiceless. Her job was to try to bring their voices to the halls of power and she took her job seriously. A LOT of these ladies take the command of being "in the world but not of the world" very seriously -- meaning that they see themselves as invested IN the world and everyone else around them.

So.... yeah... if anyone wants to use a priest or a nun as characters try to do a little digging and make sure you get them right. The real men and women out there in the world are often MORE awesome than the fictional ones you see.

And really, I would think Aikido or Judo would be more along the priestly style if they were going to be teaching any martial art. Karate is about hard strikes and hurting your opponent. Aikido and Judo are more about redirecting your opponent's force against them. And while both Aikido and Judo CAN be used to deliberately hurt someone they provide many, many, MANY more options for simply stopping your opponent without severely injuring them. And the priests and nuns I used to know were all about trying to NOT damage people.

**K-DoG7p7** · 04-30-2012, 04:20 AM

Stanley and his Monster traveling the world sending escaped demons back to hell while trying to keep the monster hidden from his parents

**Corrina** · 04-30-2012, 04:52 AM

Many Catholic priests now become priests as a second career. it would work well if one such priest used to also teach some version of martial arts. Or even an ex-cop in certain areas, given the prevalence of Irish or Italian police officers.

Most nuns I've met are awesome, including one who was a thermo-nuclear scientist. (I kid you not.) Off-topic, but apparently Pope Benedict is pissed at American nuns for doing too much work with the poor and not enough against abortion and gay marriage, so he's sent one of his buddies to re-organize them. (There was a column in the NY Sunday Times about it.) Damn. I hope the nuns figuratively kick his ass.

**Artful Angie** · 04-30-2012, 07:07 AM

I was always intrigued by Marvel's 1980s StrikeForce: Morituri and would like to see something new done with that. When SyFy optioned the rights to do a show of it called A Thousand Days it sounded like they were really going to pay close attention to detail on the whole concept. But it never surfaced.

**Little Scandal** · 04-30-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Corrina

Many Catholic priests now become priests as a second career. it would work well if one such priest used to also teach some version of martial arts. Or even an ex-cop in certain areas, given the prevalence of Irish or Italian police officers.

I'd totally read that!

Most nuns I've met are awesome, including one who was a thermo-nuclear scientist. (I kid you not.) Off-topic, but apparently Pope Benedict is pissed at American nuns for doing too much work with the poor and not enough against abortion and gay marriage, so he's sent one of his buddies to re-organize them. (There was a column in the NY Sunday Times about it.) Damn.

Big Daddy say waaah?
So Pope B would rather have starving people in the world rather then having an open heart/mind about abortion and gay marrage? What the hell is the world coming to?

I hope the nuns figuratively kick his assOr you know, they can kick the real thing...I don't mind at all...