Villains who don't measure up

**Neil C.** · 04-23-2012, 11:39 AM

So I watch "The Vampire Diaries" (yeah, I'm a 46-year-old married man with the television tastes of a teenage girl), and for a while the character of Klaus was in the background as the Big Evil Shadowy figure. And when he's revealed, he turns out to be another skinny British guy who only seems menacing because the writers tell us he is, but who I find just annoying and can't wait for the story to run its course. Am I the only guy who feels this way? And are there any other villains who you felt weren't as tough despite being built up to be a Big Bad?

**Ziggy Stardust** · 04-23-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Neil C.

So I watch "The Vampire Diaries" (yeah, I'm a 46-year-old married man with the television tastes of a teenage girl), and for a while the character of Klaus was in the background as the Big Evil Shadowy figure. And when he's revealed, he turns out to be another skinny British guy who only seems menacing because the writers tell us he is, but who I find just annoying and can't wait for the story to run its course. Am I the only guy who feels this way? And are there any other villains who you felt weren't as tough despite being built up to be a Big Bad?

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**Dreg** · 04-23-2012, 12:19 PM

Romulus, Hush, Eobard Thawne.

**Slewo.O** · 04-23-2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dreg

Romulus, Hush, Eobard Thawne.

Thawne lived up to his status as Barry Allen's greatest enemy.

**DungeonMasterJim** · 04-23-2012, 12:22 PM

Virtually every Marvel villain once the 'writer-artists' took over.

And Apocalypse. Maybe I need to do more research on his story but I thought he was the oldest mutant and extremely powerful - but he couldn't rule the world during ancient times or any time thereafter. WTF?

**Lester C.** · 04-23-2012, 12:30 PM

Hal Jordon even after the billion of lives erased and or killed.

**Neil C.** · 04-23-2012, 12:35 PM

Yeah, I agree. Apocalypse always annoyed me as a character. He seemed to me a cutrate Darkseid or Thanos, who were legitimately powerful.

Originally Posted by DungeonMasterJim

Virtually every Marvel villain once the 'writer-artists' took over.

And Apocalypse. Maybe I need to do more research on his story but I thought he was the oldest mutant and extremely powerful - but he couldn't rule the world during ancient times or any time thereafter. WTF?

**Dreg** · 04-23-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Slewo.O

Thawne lived up to his status as Barry Allen's greatest enemy.

Not as a character, though. Duller than dirt. And that's on the heels of Hunter Zoloman.

And yeah, he looked real badass with the whole Flash family using him as a punching bag during Rebirth and then getting taken out by a normal human in Flashpoint using...what was it, a sword?

**RobStaeger** · 04-23-2012, 12:59 PM

I guess it depends on when you met him. Reverse-Flash was Barry's greatest villain. In the final part of Wally's run, not so much. But in the 70s and early 80s, he was impressive as hell. (Same for his earlier appearance in Wally's run, which I won't mention for fear of spoiling a 20-year-old storyline.)

**Slewo.O** · 04-23-2012, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dreg

Not as a character, though. Duller than dirt. And that's on the heels of Hunter Zoloman.

And yeah, he looked real badass with the whole Flash family using him as a punching bag during Rebirth and then getting taken out by a normal human in Flashpoint using...what was it, a sword?

I'm talking during the Cary Bates run dude.