Do we need a law against incest?

**dasNdanger** · 04-17-2012, 06:23 PM

Yes, we need laws against it, at least in the immediate family. I do know first cousins who married (in Italy), and their children had a high occurance of cancer. However, they all lived into their 80s, so I wouldn't say it was a problem. Therefore, I'm not so concerned about the cousin thing.

However, there are all sorts of problems with immediate family (siblings, parents/grandparents, aunts/uncles/nieces/nephews). Not just the ick factor, but mostly the control/domination issues. Sure, you can give the whole consenting adult argument, but you will never convince me that there aren't unhealthy mental issues going on in a sexual relationship between close family members, regardless of their age.

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**Lester C.** · 04-17-2012, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by t.c.johnson

Not really. An 18 year old marrying her dad would not be illegal if it wasn't for incest laws. You could argue that there must be some sort of abuse when the child was younger but how do you prove it?

Evil mind. Sick minds keep their damage limited to themselves evil people damage others.

A side discussion but people brought up the power dynamic between a father and daughter even if both adults is such where it's so out of balance it can never be healthy but what about an older father figure, say somone a few years older than me and an 18 year old?

**Foolish Mortal** · 04-18-2012, 05:44 AM

I understand the uneasiness and "icky" aspect of it, but I'm not sure a law saying two consenting adults (regardless of their relationship) cannot have sex would stand up under constitutional scrutiny.

Furthermore, I'm not sure how you could even enforce it.

**Foolish Mortal** · 04-18-2012, 05:45 AM

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**t.c.johnson** · 04-18-2012, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Foolish Mortal

I understand the uneasiness and "icky" aspect of it, but I'm not sure a law saying two consenting adults (regardless of their relationship) cannot have sex would stand up under constitutional scrutiny.

Laws against prostitution have.

**Foolish Mortal** · 04-18-2012, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by t.c.johnson

Laws against prostitution have.

It's the exchange of money for sex that is illegal, not the sex act itself.

**geewow** · 12-12-2012, 04:40 AM

Karen El SEZ: ".... already illegal under standing laws."

First cousin marriage is legal in 26 states. Not an opinion, just fact.

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**Little Scandal** · 12-12-2012, 05:42 AM

I feel really uncomfortable telling you this just cuz I will probably never meet any of you. But seeing as what the subject matter is about...

I was sexually abused by my dad when I was about 3/4 years of age. It shattered my entire world to know that this man, whom I automatically trusted because he was my 'father', would hurt me that way. It shapped my early life. I don't trust as easily as some people do - I still don't. It also added to my depression in my teenage years. It took me a very long time to get over it - loads of therapy.

You have no idea the kind of shame you feel for the rest of your life, the pain that comes with it.

I think that if any family member, whether your sister/brother, aunt/uncle, cousins...whatever, are in a posistion of power, you should be held accountable for your actions. Especially a child. You have a responsibility to make sure no harm comes to them and they trust you to do that. To forcfully take that trust away, to take away the right to feel safe - that is just wrong on so many levels.

**Danimal** · 12-12-2012, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Little Scandal

I feel really uncomfortable telling you this just cuz I will probably never meet any of you. But seeing as what the subject matter is about...

I was sexually abused by my dad when I was about 3/4 years of age. It shattered my entire world to know that this man, whom I automatically trusted because he was my 'father', would hurt me that way. It shapped my early life. I don't trust as easily as some people do - I still don't. It also added to my depression in my teenage years. It took me a very long time to get over it - loads of therapy.

You have no idea the kind of shame you feel for the rest of your life, the pain that comes with it.

I think that if any family member, whether your sister/brother, aunt/uncle, cousins...whatever, are in a posistion of power, you should be held accountable for your actions. Especially a child. You have a responsibility to make sure no harm comes to them and they trust you to do that. To forcfully take that trust away, to take away the right to feel safe - that is just wrong on so many levels.

Thanks for sharing that, Scandal. I'm sure it was very difficult to do. It also really reinforces the notion that others have raised that incest, more so than any other type of relationship, very heavily plays on power dynamics, especially within the immediate family. My daughter is four and the idea that anyone, particularly me, could ever victimize her in such a way is something I can't even begin to think about without being filled with disgust and rage.

**saintsaucey** · 12-12-2012, 07:10 AM

Im so sorry for you. Honestly I am.

I'm going to admit this simply because you put your self out there. I read insest erotica online. I've only ever told one person that so its a big thing for me to admit. I don't enjoy father daughter or mother son stuff because ew and the whole having control. I look for the older sister older female cousin stories, which are really difficult to find. Probably way more than you all wanted to know about me.

Also I have quite a few attractive female cousins most of which are older than me. But I am adopted so that doesn't really count. Except for the one cousin who I actually know from my biological family. She just so happens to be a professional cheerleader.

Slinks away quietly.