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    Re: Justice For Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Stressfactor View Post
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    The House of Representatives apparently did propose a national law that would allow gun permits to be valid in all 50 states but apparently it was shot down on the grounds that it removed from states the right to control guns as they saw fit.
    So, the conservatives got bit in the ass by the same "states' rights" argument that they always like to pull out when it suits them...?


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    Re: Justice For Trayvon

    George Zimmerman charged with murder (or something like that)

    http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content...yMNj5vkOA.cspx

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    Misleading. We know he's going to be charged, but with what is uncertain. Likely manslaughter. No grand jury was called, so murder seems off the table.
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    that's why i said "(or something like that)"
    Its probably manslaughter

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    Apparently the charge is 2nd degree murder. Probably with manslaughter as a fallback. I thought manslaughter would be the most they could realistically get a conviction for. Maybe there's a plea bargain in the works?
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    Re: Justice For Trayvon

    I looked up what is considered 2nd Degree Murder in Florida.

    "Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed, without any premeditated design, by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life."

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.c.johnson View Post
    I looked up what is considered 2nd Degree Murder in Florida.

    "Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed, without any premeditated design, by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life."
    Sounds about right.

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    Yup, that's about what I figured was coming.

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    I just hope they didn't pull a Casey Anthony, going for a hard to get murder 2 without the backdoor option
    Quote Originally Posted by Shel Silverstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaelforce View Post
    Because there's absolutely no way he would ever be suspicious of a stranger with a hoodie...

    You've just declared a man guilty of knowing what was in his head. Way to go Martian Manhunter!

    Seriously, everyone assumes it was because Trayvon was black. In my neighborhood growing up, everyone knew everyone, so any stranger would get noticed. We're not talking a busy urban neighborhood but a suburban gated community.

    How can anyone know for a fact to the point that they can declare someone guilty that Zimmerman, who was clearly paranoid based on all his 911 calls, was racially profiling? Has he called in white people in the past? Hispanic? Black? He's made how many calls to 911...how many of those were because he saw a black kid? And he didn't call up 911 and say there was a black kid in the neighborhood, just that there was a suspicious guy in the neighborhood. Based on his history of frequent calls, there's nothing in the fact that he made this call that strikes me as racially profiling. If this had been his only call? If he had a history of calling in only black people? (which he may have - I haven't heard)

    He was an idiot. He followed Trayvon when he was advised not to and by doing so instigated/provoked/triggered an encounter that ended up with him killing Trayvon.

    But until someone can read his mind, I'm not about to declare him guilty of racially profiling or being a bigot. I've yet to read anything in the man's history that says he's a racist (again, I may have missed something). Paranoid moron? Absolutely. Paranoid racist moron? Can't say til I learn more.
    Yup. Because he's totally the victim here and the one who needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by michealdark View Post
    I just hope they didn't pull a Casey Anthony, going for a hard to get murder 2 without the backdoor option
    It'd be interesting to see the make-up of the jury. From what I can tell there's still a lot of assholes who somehow think it was the kid's fault for wearing a hoodie.

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