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Thread: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by capntightpants View Post
    Not saying that racial motives are at play, but it is silly to think that it is less likely just because Zimmerman may be "ethnic", or to put more bluntly, that he isn't white. Non-white people can be racist against other non-white people.
    Yeah, of course, but what we have here is a white police chief protecting a hispanic shooter of a black teen. There's definitely an element of "protect your own" in there, but like I said, it seems more like the Chief was covering for a friend.

    Either way, there definitely was racism that cropped up afterwards, when the story broke nationwide.
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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray G. View Post
    Yeah, of course, but what we have here is a white police chief protecting a hispanic shooter of a black teen. There's definitely an element of "protect your own" in there, but like I said, it seems more like the Chief was covering for a friend.

    Either way, there definitely was racism that cropped up afterwards, when the story broke nationwide.
    My thought is that it's not so much that the department showed an active interest in protecting Zimmerman as they did a passive lack of interest in ensuring that a potentially innocent man wasn't murdered. Not so much conspiracy as incompetence.
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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by Fourthman View Post
    My thought is that it's not so much that the department showed an active interest in protecting Zimmerman as they did a passive lack of interest in ensuring that a potentially innocent man wasn't murdered. Not so much conspiracy as incompetence.
    I can see that. Good point.
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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by Fourthman View Post
    My thought is that it's not so much that the department showed an active interest in protecting Zimmerman as they did a passive lack of interest in ensuring that a potentially innocent man wasn't murdered. Not so much conspiracy as incompetence.
    I agree, but I will add that it wasn't just incompetence, but indifference, too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dasNdanger

    I agree, but I will add that it wasn't just incompetence, but indifference, too.

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    He covered that with passive lack of interest.

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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Spock View Post
    He covered that with passive lack of interest.


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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    George Zimmerman('s legal fund) has an official website and Facebook initiated by his defense team:

    http://www.gzlegalcase.com/
    https://www.facebook.com/GeorgeZimmermanLegalCase

    Some of the comments:

    "Hang in there George, you did the right thing"

    "We don't live far from you George. So if you still want to live in FL and close to the same area...you can move in right beside us! I would love to have a neighbor that loved us and would want to protect us just as we would do the exact same thing for him!"

    "George Zimmerman is a good man who STOOD HIS GROUND....and won!"

    "With alot of people u do have to take that stance. If u dont show that u are willing to protect urself and or others...they can smell weakness and will attack! if the kid was really up to no good...and he was checking out ur house...u would have been happy with someone like george to protect ur family. We cant have it both ways. And so what he was watching where the kid was going...he wasnt chasing him with gun in hand! This kid was a trouble maker...and needed to be watched by his parents but they let him go off by himself and he wasnt just walking by and got attacked. He was up to something. Otherwise he would have just walked back to his dads and let his father know what happened."

    "I chose to donate when CNN convicted you One of the Best contributions I have ever made..."

    And then there's this:


    "The law is sound. People have the RIGHT to defend themselves. I have no control over how those laws are enforced or prosecuted. Sorry..."
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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKS View Post
    I'm not sure of the context of this picture, but I will say this about it (and the stand your ground law). One reason the law was created was to protect women of domestic violence from prosecution if they killed their husband in self-defense. Since domestic violence happens at home the Castle Rule doesn't quite apply to women defending themselves against an abusive mate. The stand your ground law provides for that, and in my opinion this is the messsage of that picture - a woman has the right to defend herself and her kids against an abusive mate (I interpret the picture as saying, "I'm through with being abused. I'm leaving, I'm taking the kids, and you are not going to stop me").

    Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think that picture is about domestic abuse and doesn't have any relation to the Martin case.


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    Re: The Killing of Treyvon Martin

    Quote Originally Posted by dasNdanger View Post
    I'm not sure of the context of this picture, but I will say this about it (and the stand your ground law). One reason the law was created was to protect women of domestic violence from prosecution if they killed their husband in self-defense. Since domestic violence happens at home the Castle Rule doesn't quite apply to women defending themselves against an abusive mate. The stand your ground law provides for that, and in my opinion this is the messsage of that picture - a woman has the right to defend herself and her kids against an abusive mate (I interpret the picture as saying, "I'm through with being abused. I'm leaving, I'm taking the kids, and you are not going to stop me").

    Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think that picture is about domestic abuse and doesn't have any relation to the Martin case.


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    If it doesn't expressly say it's about domestic abuse, then it's open to interpretation. It's the ambiguity of what's written on (and with) the picture that makes it frightening to those of us who are clearly not represented by the picture.
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