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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison_Lad View Post
    Personally, I would be happy with everything below the Mason-Dixon line gone, along with the entire swatch from Texas up to ND, and AZ.

    We get to keep Miami, though. Who cares about the rest of FL anyways?
    I totally get that what you're saying is in jest, but whenever I hear this, I always think, "How will cutting off a state or two help those women, exactly?"

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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Treacle View Post
    I totally get that what you're saying is in jest, but whenever I hear this, I always think, "How will cutting off a state or two help those women, exactly?"
    I was just goofing around.

    Though, one could argue that if states like SC, AL, MS, and the others weren't part of the US anymore, it might not help anyone in those states, but it would help the rest of us for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison_Lad

    I was just goofing around.

    Though, one could argue that if states like SC, AL, MS, and the others weren't part of the US anymore, it might not help anyone in those states, but it would help the rest of us for sure.
    Oh, I know. I don't think anyone seriously means that. It's just that response always makes me think of what I wrote above.

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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison_Lad View Post
    Personally, I would be happy with everything below the Mason-Dixon line gone, along with the entire swatch from Texas up to ND, and AZ.

    We get to keep Miami, though. Who cares about the rest of FL anyways?
    *raises hand*

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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Soapdish View Post
    *raises hand*
    No insult meant. I was just kidding.

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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison_Lad View Post
    No insult meant. I was just kidding.
    I know. I've made similar jokes about the US being better off if Florida is given to Cuba or secedes or something.

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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    i remain concerned. None of this stuff seems an isolated incident. In fact, I think all these introductions of the bills are being orchestrated as a wedge issue, much like gay marriage.

    I'd like to think they've gone too far, forgetting that women are, you know, 51 percent of the voting population and thus are the majority.

    Still, stupidity combined with stubbornness and self-righteousness seems to be going pretty far. This is the governor of one of the most populated states in the nation.

    Pennsylvania GOP governor tells women to just "close their eyes" about ultrasounds.

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...trasound-bill/

    So, asshats in all areas of the U.S. Unfortunately, this one is in a position of real power.
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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    "Think of England."

    As a slightly positive corollary, according to that article his approval rate is dropping, so that could could be a sign that people as wising up to what's being done.

    As a negative corollary, in addition to the obvious problems with his statement, the article points out that it shows that he isn't even aware of the details of the laws he is talking about.

    That brings up that age-old question: Would you rather the problems be from deliberate malice, or simple incompetence?
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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrina View Post
    i remain concerned. None of this stuff seems an isolated incident. In fact, I think all these introductions of the bills are being orchestrated as a wedge issue, much like gay marriage.

    I'd like to think they've gone too far, forgetting that women are, you know, 51 percent of the voting population and thus are the majority.
    Actually, not only are there more women, but women vote much more. In the last election, women out-voted men by about 9.5M. In 2008, it was either 8.5M or 9M, can't remember. And so on. This time I expect women will out-vote men by over 10M. And I think more young women will vote than ever before.

    Doing this is political suicide for the Republicans, but they seem dedicated to doing whatever they can to appeal to their base, regardless of whether they piss off women, Latinos, whomever. It's insanity. But the party has been imploding for a while now. Even Boehner in the House has no control over his own caucus.

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    Re: America - what the f@$!, seriously? Firing women for using birth control?

    2010 was a terrible, terrible election year. That election may prove to be the single most destructive event in the history of this country.

    People were so pissed off at the Democrats they just voted in anyone with an "R" after their name, not noticing that the Republican Party they thought they knew had been hijacked by a fascist cult.

    And now we're stuck with them, at least until next January. Then it will take years to undo all the damage they've done. Maybe longer, if they maintain enough of a presence to block those efforts.

    And it's by no means guaranteed that the voters will do the right thing now, either. In Wisconsin Scott Walker is leading the polls in his effort to avoid being recalled. It's very likely that WI has become a solidly red state now. Arizona's government was taken over by the farthest of the far right in the Republican Party -- people way farther to the right than the average voter in the state -- but what are the voters going to do? Vote Democrat? Arizona has always been a Republican state. I'd say it's 50/50 whether the voters there would prefer a genuine Handmaid's Tale scenario to voting in those Mexican-loving, freedom-hating libruls. It's all about The Tribe... mine is always right, the other is always wrong, no matter what.

    Meanwhile, the voters are whining like little bitches about the price of gas, and blaming Obama for it, jeopardizing his chances at re-election. Apparently, Americans now want a centrally-planned economy where the government sets consumer prices. They're going to punish Barack Obama now for not being a socialist.

    Proves what I've been saying: When the voters are stupid, democracy is the worst system of government in the world. But it's also the fairest: the people always get exactly the government they deserve.
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