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    Quote Originally Posted by J.R. LeMar View Post
    I've never been into video games, and only just barely was aware of this game, but I just read this article:


    Why Mass Effect is the Most Important Science Fiction Universe of Our Generation


    And I have to say WOW, this sounds like a badass concept! I still have no interest in playing a video game, but I've been looking on Amazon and have already added several of the Mass Effect comic-book trades, novels, and an art-book to my wishlist, to be ordered as soon as my budget allows.
    I'd put the Geth on a level ABOVE the Borg or Cylons (or Daleks, for that matter) in regards of sci-fi antagonists. The design and principle are brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zemo View Post
    I'd put the Geth on a level ABOVE the Borg or Cylons (or Daleks, for that matter) in regards of sci-fi antagonists. The design and principle are brilliant.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-DoG7p7 View Post
    Yeah that article is probably the most over exaggerated article i have ever seen.

    Don't get me wrong i love Mass Effect and the universe.
    But story wise its ... yeah it way overblown by some fans.

    Also if you have Mass Effect: Deception on that list you should remove it.
    http://kotaku.com/5880729/mass-effec...-ton-of-errors
    I have to agree, as much as I like the ME universe, it has a lot tropes that quite frankly Bioware recycles over and over again. Not to mention all the conflicting parts within the series, sometimes in the same game.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    I have to agree, as much as I like the ME universe, it has a lot tropes that quite frankly Bioware recycles over and over again. Not to mention all the conflicting parts within the series, sometimes in the same game.
    Bioware are not really known for not having a lot of plotholes and consistancy when it comes to a storyline.
    Just take the Quarians. In Mass Effect Tali talk about like on a quarian ship and how they didn't need suits onboard.
    Cut to Mass Effect 2 and nope.. everyone is in a suit, and they only show themself out of a suit while being intimate.

    then there is the Prothians who we saw several statues of in Mass Effect and come Mass Effect 3 ...... ok I won't spoil it..

    Long story short
    The Mass Effect Universe is awesome. but that awesome? no fucking way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-DoG7p7 View Post
    Why?
    The backstory. Geth aren't conquerors. The Quarians attempted to commit genocide against them. They're the villains, and you can't do anything to stop that, but they're not actually evil, just forced by circumstance to oppose the free people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugin View Post
    The backstory. Geth aren't conquerors. The Quarians attempted to commit genocide against them. They're the villains, and you can't do anything to stop that, but they're not actually evil, just forced by circumstance to oppose the free people.
    Except that it's pretty much the same story that was lifted from Battlestar Galactica.




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    Quote Originally Posted by K-DoG7p7 View Post
    Why?
    The design is unique and believable. Inhuman enough to pass for realistic aliens, yet familiar enough to present a behaviour that moves within expectable borders, getting rid of the need to explain every aspect of their culture in order to make sense out of behaviour. Especially the decision to make the face into a simple flashlight was an excellent decision. On the one hand it is plausible enough not to have a face, those robots were created to be machines that work, they wouldn't need faces. On the other, the flaps around the flashlight, together with alterations in brightness and sound still manages to convey feelings such as confusion and puzzlement, as Legion shows.

    The principle itself is a variation on the contemporary theme of artificial intelligence, though taken further than almost all examples that come to mind, except perhaps for Asimov's I, Robot, or "Super-Toys Last All Summer Long", though those simply didn't have the scope of a whole race of created sentient beings and the results of their replacing their creators. Especially Mass Effect 2 shows a great coming of age arc of a whole people, with the special representative of Legion, and the fact of robotic people actually developing a religion is especially interesting. The only account of robots showing a development into sentient beings that I can think of that is more realistic and gritty than the Geth would be in Naoki Urasawa's manga "Pluto". Which, funnily enough, is a continuation of Astro Boy, which in itself is a strong story of militarisation of robots vs the life-like qualities of AI, the conflict at the core of the Geth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugin View Post
    The backstory. Geth aren't conquerors. The Quarians attempted to commit genocide against them. They're the villains, and you can't do anything to stop that, but they're not actually evil, just forced by circumstance to oppose the free people.
    Yes but
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    Except that it's pretty much the same story that was lifted from Battlestar Galactica.
    ..
    Not what one would call original.
    I believe they also did that story in Star Trek a few times

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-DoG7p7 View Post
    Yes but

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    Not what one would call original.
    I believe they also did that story in Star Trek a few times
    I don't think it is necessary to re-invent the wheel for every story you want to do. The best stories ever told are predominantly variations of a an already existing theme. The reason being that the audience knows what they can expect of the events, in principle, while there is still space for surprising twists and turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zemo View Post
    I don't think it is necessary to re-invent the wheel for every story you want to do. The best stories ever told are predominantly variations of a an already existing theme. The reason being that the audience knows what they can expect of the events, in principle, while there is still space for surprising twists and turns.

    This.

    Mass Effect clearly takes ideas and concepts from the best of Sci Fi and puts their own little spin on them to create a unique experience.

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