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    Quote Originally Posted by Hate_Prime View Post
    Well when someone misinterprets formula for the penalties of parrying with a two-handed +2 badger on a stick while prone and flanked, there's little chance they'll spend eternity fellating a cactus to amuse the devil.
    With some of the DMs I've known, that's exactly what it'll mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    But ok, I've got a question for you atheists then. Taking god or a divine creator out of the question, how do you feel about order vs chaos? In other words, do you believe that there is order in the universe, or do you feel that that universe is all random?
    Everything will eventually trend towards chaos. That's just thermodynamics. But initial order in the sense of deliberation, no. That would have to be imposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Yeah, it would be pretty stupid to think there's nothing because, like, there's evidence that there's, y'know, stuff. Atheists aren't people who believe in "nothing."
    That would be "nihilist". "We believe in nothing, Lebowski!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray G. View Post
    I'd say I'm an agnostic theist. I don't know if there is a God, but I try to live my life as if there's a "test at the end", if you will.
    I admire that. It leads you to good things.

    For my personal perspective, I've never been able to give Pascal's wager credit, so I try to live morally because i want others to do the same in regards to me.
    People think I have got the power cause I've got the monkeys. Nope. I've got the power because I'll let the monkeys loose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Spock View Post
    Like God.
    Or unicorns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    Do you believe that every thing is governed by chance?

    The argument along the lines of "This can't have all arisen by chance" or "surely this couldn't have just popped into existence - there must by a mind behind it" baffles me. While belief in the existence of a creating deity may explain that the universe didn't just randomly generate itself, it still means that the organizing being somehow just arose by random chance.

    In other words, who created the creator? If you can't stomach the universe coming into existence without a guiding mind, I'm not sure why you can stomach the guiding mind coming into existence without some super-creator, and so on ad infinitum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Or unicorns.
    Maybe, but I don't know that unicorns have that kind of power. I saw Legend.
    Quote Originally Posted by RickLM View Post
    Is this where Jason becomes a dick about semantics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    Do you believe that every thing is governed by chance?
    This is too vague. What do you mean by "governed by chance"? I believe in particle physics, things are pretty deterministic (i.e., if you rewound the universe and ran it again, the same things would happen), whereas quantum physics is pretty unpredictable with potential outcomes having different probabilities of occurring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Spock View Post
    Maybe, but I don't know that unicorns have that kind of power. I saw Legend.
    I wouldn't put too much stock in that anti-unicornist propaganda film!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr View Post
    Do you believe that every thing is governed by chance?
    Again, define chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Spock View Post
    Like God.
    Not in the sense of the fan-fiction and wish fulfillment we get from religion, but there's an excellent chance that there's more to existence than what we can perceive. The only way to learn the "how's" and "why's" about our existence (which some could call "God") is through science.

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    What have you done! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!!!!!!!

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