The Official Bendis Board 2012 Presidential Campaign Thread

[Keith P.]

Local Republican Party Newsletter Suggests ‘Armed Revolution’ If President Obama Is Reelected.

HE'S BLACK!

We get it.

[Kevin T Brown]

What we have here, is a non-issue that will be gone by tomorrow. If stupid shit you did in high school was a factor in getting a job, we'd all be fucked. Aren't liberals all about forgiveness and second chances and what-not? I mean, Roman Polansky can butt-rape a kid, but ol' Mitt can't cut a kid's hair! Where is the justice?!

Agreed, but it was funny to read.

However, Romney issued an apology for his antics in high school: LINK.

[Foolish Mortal]

I've established the rebuttals ages ago. I use the emoticon because it's much simpler than spending the energy to go through it all again. Some people are incapable of criticizing their politicians and FM's post showed that.

Yes, I never criticized Obama on anything. Not a single solitary thing.

Obama's entire 2008 campaign was "Yes we can". He promised an end to the "change takes time" way of thinking. Yet now, on this completely ridiculous issue he ducks into the "States should decide" cop-out. That's the excuse Ron Paul used when he said that the Civil War should never have been fought because slavery would have gone away on its own. I seem to recall a lot of people in this thread having an issue with that stance.

No he didn't.

Obama didn't care about the states when he pushed his healthcare plan through. He doesn't care that some states think people should have access to marijuana, they must obey the federal government! But now he suddenly feels that the states should decide.

It was a purely political move where he can play both sides of the issue for support. And for people to try to defend it by going into the "Well Billy, these are complicated issues and when you grow up you'll understand" rationale is

Marriage is a federal issue because it changes the way people are taxed. It's his decision and he could take a real stance if he believed in it.

The willingness of adults to play pretend on these issues is

To do something about Marriage would require a Constitutional Amendment. Obama doesn't have the political capital, and the current climate of partisanship in the country would make it damn near impossible for him to push something like that through.

You can accuse Obama of many different things, but not being pragmatic isn't one of them. Letting this issue get decided in the courts is probably the least difficult route to go.

[Kedd]

HE'S BLACK!

We get it.

I don't think it's a race thing. It's just an ignorant fuck thing.

[Marcdachamp]

That’s not gonna go over well. Mainly cause of your grammar:

Local Republican Party Newsletter Suggests ‘Armed Revolution’ If President Obama Is Reelected

See, for all the hyperbole from the far left fringe during the Bush days, you never saw this. Mostly just people talking about moving. This far right fringe is a bunch of fucking nut bags.

[Ben]

Obama never "...promised an end to the "change takes time" way of thinking." But even if he did, it's damn hard for one man to do that when everyone on the other side blocks you every step of the way and works against you 100% of the time.

But he promised!!!!

[Ben]

See, for all the hyperbole from the far left fringe during the Bush days, you never saw this. Mostly just people talking about moving. This far right fringe is a bunch of fucking nut bags.

It really highlights the Democrats = pussies, Republicans = assholes divide!

[Dreg]

Obama's entire 2008 campaign was "Yes we can". He promised an end to the "change takes time" way of thinking.

I don't know whether it's more ridiculous for you to consider "hope" and "change" concrete campaign promises, or for you to be so selective about what constitutes "change" as to disqualify all of his accomplishments. But I do know that one thing more reprehensible than someone holding up a vague notion of "hope" as a slogan are the people who then attack "hope" as if it's the enemy. And I've seen enough of that to make me vomit. Hope is the only thing that makes change possible, and rather than mock the idea itself, Republicans would have been better served in 2008 by thinking of ways to inspire their own hope and use that as the capital of their campaign instead of the usual hate and fear tactics. They'd be a lot better served doing that now, in fact, since they have a serious problem with solid alternatives to the Obama policies they hate. It's really hard to claim to be concerned with healthcare when their solution's the Ryan Budget, for example. It's also really hard to claim to be concerned with the economy when they have a no-taxing vow and Bush-era policy advisors. Where's the hope supposed to come from?

I realize that some people are irrationally smitten by Obama. Does that keep me up at night? F*** no. Because I know that there's plenty more irrational hatred coming out of the other side to balance it out. And say what you will about people that voted for Obama because he's a black guy...at least they voted based on something that is a fact. And even a superficial fact is better than the fantasies regarding his citizenship or love of Shiara Law. Nobody has to worry that Obama is being treated unreasonably well by the public, believe me. If it bothers you that some people can't criticize the president because of his uneven record with gay rights, go and read the Fox News website where he just declared war on marriage. Better wear your flack jacket.

I also find it a bit disingenuous every time a republican claims Obama's a do-nothing president. If Obama were a do-nothing president, republicans wouldn't be shutting down the legislative process every other week when he tries to push something through. They wouldn't need to. The current level of Republican obstructionism doesn't really mesh with the idea of a President who is not interested in pursuing some very solid goals.

Yet now, on this completely ridiculous issue he ducks into the "States should decide" cop-out. That's the excuse Ron Paul used when he said that the Civil War should never have been fought because slavery would have gone away on its own. I seem to recall a lot of people in this thread having an issue with that stance.

I agree with you on that, and I do part ways with Obama on his relatively conservative way of thinking when it comes to gay marriage. However, I will not turn instantly sign onto the Republican party because of this stance since there are people infinitely more broken in their way of thinking on this issue, and those people are actual conservatives.

[Kedd]

See, for all the hyperbole from the far left fringe during the Bush days, you never saw this. Mostly just people talking about moving. This far right fringe is a bunch of fucking nut bags.

I'm sure there was talk of revolution from people on the liberal fringe. I doubt if those people were elected officials or wielded any influence outside of the coffee co-op they hung out in. The conservative fringe ain't so fringe anymore.

[Brother Power the Gong]

Thing is, these people are pussies who will in way, shape or form revolt.