Ray's 53rd DCU/GrayHaven Megathread - Beware the Court of OOMPHwls!!!

**Dark Sasha** · 02-24-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ray G.

Gambit is a great character. Put Kody Chamberlain on the title and make it a New Orleans crime thriller - Bam! Cult hit.

And nothing in the continuity is stopping that.

**Ray G.** · 02-24-2012, 07:15 PM

My top ten for 2/22:

10. Justice League Dark
9. Wolverine and the X-Men
8. I Vampire
7. American Vampire
6. Fantastic Four
5. Aquaman
4. All-Star Western
3. The 6th Gun
2. Flash
1. Teen Titans

**Ray G.** · 02-24-2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Sasha

And nothing in the continuity is stopping that.

Except for the fact that a Gambit ongoing by an Image creator making his Marvel debut would be cancelled by the third page of the first issue. It would just switch to Deadpool vs. Wolverine three pages in.

Unless, of course, you had the marketing oomph and hype of a line-wide reboot behind it...

**Dark Sasha** · 02-24-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ray G.

Except for the fact that a Gambit ongoing by an Image creator making his Marvel debut would be cancelled by the third page of the first issue. It would just switch to Deadpool vs. Wolverine three pages in.

Unless, of course, you had the marketing oomph and hype of a line-wide reboot behind it...

So that's what they can do. A RELAUNCH! Not a REBOOT!

**Ray G.** · 02-24-2012, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Sasha

So that's what they can do. A RELAUNCH! Not a REBOOT!

Marvel's been so relaunch-crazy over the last few years that "Hey! Look! New #1s" wouldn't have all that much impact past the first month. Diminishing returns. Just look at how quickly Uncanny X-Men and Captain America assumed the standard levels.

**Dark Sasha** · 02-24-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ray G.

Marvel's been so relaunch-crazy over the last few years that "Hey! Look! New #1s" wouldn't have all that much impact past the first month. Diminishing returns. Just look at how quickly Uncanny X-Men and Captain America assumed the standard levels.

But the reboot would be the same thing.

**Ray G.** · 02-24-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Sasha

But the reboot would be the same thing.

Not at all. It would be a true fresh start for new fans to jump on.

Especially if, unlike DC, most of their big creators seem to be wrapping up their runs and switching up. I think we might see fewer long-running runs preserved, which is a double-edged sword, but might help with new readers.

**Dark Sasha** · 02-24-2012, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ray G.

Not at all. It would be a true fresh start for new fans to jump on.

Especially if, unlike DC, most of their big creators seem to be wrapping up their runs and switching up. I think we might see fewer long-running runs preserved, which is a double-edged sword, but might help with new readers.

But it's just going to be "Ultimate AGAIN!" and again it's not going to do anything. "Yeah uh, Spider-man is uhhhhhh spider-man still"

**Matthew Brown** · 02-24-2012, 07:25 PM

Guys, guys, stop! You can co-wrote a script and both have me!

**Dark Sasha** · 02-24-2012, 07:26 PM

Reboot is what DC does because they historically have a mess of confusing continuity because the universe is not as cohesive as Marvel, and the many earths, Earth 2, them not existing one moment and then existing the next, and stuff like Hawkman as a character no one seems to understand.