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    Kirkman gets it.

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    Now if only editorial at Marvel and DC got it...

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    Re: Kirkman gets it.

    I agree with him (especially about the rape) up to a certain point. Certainly, a lot of comic books are written for the creators and the aging fanboy population, but the whole "Kids won't read something that dark!" argument completely ignores the incredibly violent and dark things that many kids already like to begin with.

    Look at the number of kids playing Halo or Call of Duty for instance, or how incredibly popular Mortal Kombat was in the 90's.

    In that regard, I'm very interested to see how the new Young Justice cartoon (which is supposed to be markedly darker than Teen Titans and the Brave and the Bold) is received when it airs.

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    He shoudl have said intra-company instead of inter-company.


    I disagree in part though. 616 Marvel is going to have a range of things happen. The Marvel adventures line is what is focused on the kids.
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    Doesn't he write a Zombie book?

    And isn't this the same guy that wrote Nightcrawler turning into an obsessive psycho in Ultimate X-men?

    Yeah, he's not hypocritical at all.
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    Doesn't he write a Zombie book?

    And isn't this the same guy that wrote Nightcrawler turning into an obsessive psycho in Ultimate X-men?

    Yeah, he's not hypocritical at all.

    Did you read all of it?

    He says that his books are adult oriented. His says his books belong to him so that is what he does with them. You go to read his books expecting the gore. If he was doing the mainstream heroes he would not do that.


    Nightcrawler in the Ultimate U might have done disturbed things (i quit the book around that time so don't know how it played out), but his words speak directly to gore and violence. I don't think there were any scenes with Kurt gutting people, spraying blood all over the place.
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    Did you read all of it?

    He says that his books are adult oriented. His says his books belong to him so that is what he does with them. You go to read his books expecting the gore. If he was doing the mainstream heroes he would not do that.


    Nightcrawler in the Ultimate U might have done disturbed things (i quit the book around that time so don't know how it played out), but his words speak directly to gore and violence. I don't think there were any scenes with Kurt gutting people, spraying blood all over the place.
    I think I would have rather read Nightcrawler getting gutted rather than his character assassination. Nightcrawler kidnapped Dazzler and hid her against his will. Kirkman also turned him into a homophobe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason California View Post
    Did you read all of it?

    He says that his books are adult oriented. His says his books belong to him so that is what he does with them. You go to read his books expecting the gore. If he was doing the mainstream heroes he would not do that.


    Nightcrawler in the Ultimate U might have done disturbed things (i quit the book around that time so don't know how it played out), but his words speak directly to gore and violence. I don't think there were any scenes with Kurt gutting people, spraying blood all over the place.
    Was Kirkman the one who wrote Freedom Ring getting impaled to death?

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    I think I would have rather read Nightcrawler getting gutted rather than his character assassination. Nightcrawler kidnapped Dazzler and hid her against his will. Kirkman also turned him into a homophobe.
    That is fine, but none of that speaks to what Kirkman was talking about. I can appreciate where you are coming from, but you are wrong about the hypocrisy.

    Also, not every hero is going to be perfect and have the same values as you. just like with normal people, some will have huge failings in our eyes.
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    Was Kirkman the one who wrote Freedom Ring getting impaled to death?

    Yo no se.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thequeerjock View Post
    Was Kirkman the one who wrote Freedom Ring getting impaled to death?
    Kirkman created the character.
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