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    Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

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    Food-stamp backers trying to stop cuts
    Thursday, August 5, 2010 02:55 AM
    By Jack Torry
    THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

    WASHINGTON - After intense criticism from advocates for the poor, Senate Democrats yesterday were searching for a way to prevent major food-stamp cuts by 2014.

    To help finance a bill that would provide states with $26 billion for education and health programs, Senate Democrats had agreed to cut $11.9 billion from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as food stamps.

    By a 61-38 vote yesterday, Senate Democrats ended Republican delaying tactics and cleared the way for final passage of the bill, which could take place as early as today.

    But moments after the vote, Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, and three other Democratic senators asked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., about the food-stamp reductions.

    "We're very concerned about what this means long-term to food stamps," Brown said in a conference call with Ohio reporters. "(Reid) is committed to fixing it."

    Brown did not elaborate on how the cuts would be restored. Jim Manley, a Reid spokesman, confirmed that Reid agreed to find a solution, adding that "we need to talk to the White House on how to deal with this."

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has called the House back into session next week to vote on the package. Ohio would receive $530 million for Medicaid, which covers health costs for the poor, and $362 million in education money, which would pay for an estimated 5,000 teachers.

    Advocates for the poor, however, were still smoldering about the proposed reductions in food stamps. They argued that Senate Democrats still have time to eliminate the cuts before the bill is approved.

    Jim Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, a nonprofit group in Washington, said, "We appreciate the majority leader's thought, but there is still time to fix it when it needs to be fixed - which is before it's completed."

    Weill's organization circulated calculations showing that under the bill, a family of four would lose $59 a month in food-stamp benefits beginning in June 2014.

    The reason is that Congress provided a 13.6 percent increase to the food-stamp program last year as part of the $787 billion economic-stimulus package. But with inflation virtually nonexistent, Democrats argued that they could scale back that increase to help pay for the education and Medicaid spending.

    More than 1.6 million Ohioans rely on food stamps with an average monthly benefit of $140. Nationwide, more than 40 million receive food stamps.

    "Given the deficit mania coming down the pike, it's going to be harder to fix than it would normally be," Weill said. "The simplest, easiest, fastest way to fix it is not to do it."

    Brown voted to end the filibuster while Sen. George V. Voinovich, R-Ohio, voted to kill the measure.

    Dispatch reporter Catherine Candisky contributed to this story.

    jtorry@dispatch.com

    as someone who works at an Ohio grocery store and dreads the first week of the month, I can safely say that $59 dollars a month may actually benefit these people. A lot of them take full advantage over the program designed to help them make ends meet. just the other day, I had a lady buy 3 24-packs and 6 12-packs of pop (soda, Coke, whatever you wanna call it) and that same day, our meat department sold out of filet mingion. Another customer bought 20 frozen dinners. Meanwhile, I'm working here because I lost my teaching job, and eating hamburger helper and ramen noodles. why does someone who doesn't work eat better than I do? Taking away $59 a month could teach some people to budget and get what they need to survive. do they need frozen dinners, or expensive meats, or soda and chips to make it from day to day?
    Now don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of people out there who need foodstamps, but there's a lot of people who don't and just don't want to work.

    alright. getting off my soapbox. thoughts?
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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStick View Post
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    as someone who works at an Ohio grocery store and dreads the first week of the month, I can safely say that $59 dollars a month may actually benefit these people. A lot of them take full advantage over the program designed to help them make ends meet. just the other day, I had a lady buy 3 24-packs and 6 12-packs of pop (soda, Coke, whatever you wanna call it) and that same day, our meat department sold out of filet mingion. Another customer bought 20 frozen dinners. Meanwhile, I'm working here because I lost my teaching job, and eating hamburger helper and ramen noodles. why does someone who doesn't work eat better than I do? Taking away $59 a month could teach some people to budget and get what they need to survive. do they need frozen dinners, or expensive meats, or soda and chips to make it from day to day?
    Now don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of people out there who need foodstamps, but there's a lot of people who don't and just don't want to work.

    alright. getting off my soapbox. thoughts?

    Often I'm in line with my store-brand, "whatever is on sale" neccessities ($2 frozen dinner, etc.) While the person in front of me has ice cream, snacks, pastries, top-of-the-line meats (All name brand, not on sale). And then, to pay for it, they whip out the ebt card.

    Something seems off about that...

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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    Quote Originally Posted by bachman View Post
    Often I'm in line with my store-brand, "whatever is on sale" neccessities ($2 frozen dinner, etc.) While the person in front of me has ice cream, snacks, pastries, top-of-the-line meats (All name brand, not on sale). And then, to pay for it, they whip out the ebt card.

    Something seems off about that...
    The more of that stuff they eat, the sooner they'll die, and the fewer food stamps they'll use.

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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

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    The more of that stuff they eat, the sooner they'll die, and the fewer food stamps they'll use.
    free/discounted healthcare, though.
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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStick View Post
    free/discounted healthcare, though.
    They're doctors, not magicians.

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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    They're doctors, not magicians.
    YOU'RE not a magician

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    They're doctors, not magicians.
    .................touché.

    but they should be, dammit! I wanna see a surgeon pull a rabbit out of a kidney and be all "ta-dah!!!"
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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    Quote Originally Posted by bachman View Post
    YOU'RE not a magician
    Wow, someone's a little too obsessed with who is and isn't a magician.

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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Wow, someone's a little too obsessed with who is and isn't a magician.
    Maybe if you weren't so super-obessesed with magicians, you wouldn't have mentioned them in the first place. Then I wouldn't have to display my mild-obsession with magicians.

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    Re: Ohio Senate Democrats looking to cut food stamp budgets to help schools/medicade

    I think the two of you just need to get that three-way with Doug Henning out of your system.
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    Shut up Mike!

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