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    I've lost friends to drunk drivers, and drinking is legal. Drink driving isn't, but it doesn't stop people from doing it, the freaking eejits.

    I feel that drugs SHOULD be legalised. We'll never ever win the war on drugs. You can't win a war on a concept or on something like that. Legalisation allows taxation and control. Legalisation of drugs like marijuana allows for a lot more simplicity in medical use, in hemp production (a great sustainable product if ever there was one, so much better than cotton!) etc. It also allows enforcement regulations to change. So that the money we're pouring into stupid ad campaigns now to be put into education about the drugs.

    Harder drugs, well... I'm not a massive fan, and that's due to life experience. But a lot of the issues with the harder drugs are the uncontrolled additives people put in. Yes, so many of them do NOT GOOD things to your system. Heroin is way out, coke is pretty out too for me. But it's the shit they put in E and cut things like coke with that's filler that causes a lot of the very adverse reactions.

    Legalise it, tax it, and legislate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomBelandTSSTG View Post
    Not everyone does that.
    But it does happen, and legalising things that cause that sort of thing means it will happen in more cases. Laws controlling things aren't because of everyone, there because of some.





    I'm undecided on the whole issue (Some seem fine to legalise, others less so), but the idea Jason puts forward of everything being legal and punishing on the after-affects just seems a bit silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickT View Post
    But it does happen, and legalising things that cause that sort of thing means it will happen in more cases. Laws controlling things aren't because of everyone, there because of some.
    I'm undecided on the whole issue (Some seem fine to legalise, others less so), but the idea Jason puts forward of everything being legal and punishing on the after-affects just seems a bit silly.
    Ummmm. No. Those laws are for driving while impaired. There are warning labels on prescription drugs and medications that warn against driving while on them and yet some people do.

    The problem isn't pot. The problem is ignorance.
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    I will not allow marujuana in my house or in my life. It can cause harm. My father is a very good example of that.

    But I do think it should be legal and controlled. I would go for something like Amsterdam's laws: keep it in certain establishments or private homes.

    Harder stuff though...I am against legalizing. Yeah, people should put in their bodies what they want and take responsibility and whatever. But often when they do the harder stuff they can become a danger to other people as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomBelandTSSTG View Post
    Ummmm. No. Those laws are for driving while impaired. There are warning labels on prescription drugs and medications that warn against driving while on them and yet some people do.

    The problem isn't pot. The problem is ignorance.
    Ummmmm. Yes. You say not everyone does that, I'm saying that's irellevent because laws are because of the some not the all. Gun control laws aren't because of everyone (And no, I'm not comparing gun control to drug control).



    Also if you go back to the root of the convo, Jason's comment, he wasn't just talking about pot, he was talking about everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickT View Post
    Ummmmm. Yes. You say not everyone does that, I'm saying that's irellevent because laws are because of the some not the all. Gun control laws aren't because of everyone (And no, I'm not comparing gun control to drug control).



    Also if you go back to the root of the convo, Jason's comment, he wasn't just talking about pot, he was talking about everything.
    It's ignorance. Not drugs. Every person who uses them has a different dependancy and you can't just say they're all the same.

    If I got drunk and drove my car, I'm ignorant of the consequences. The drug isn't forcing me into the car.
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    Oh yes, legalized it. I'm totally for it.

    It would seriously undercut gang violence in America. Without the ease of pot money, gangs would have a hard time holding sway over the inner cities of our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.c.johnson View Post
    I will not allow marujuana in my house or in my life. It can cause harm. My father is a very good example of that.

    But I do think it should be legal and controlled. I would go for something like Amsterdam's laws: keep it in certain establishments or private homes.

    Harder stuff though...I am against legalizing. Yeah, people should put in their bodies what they want and take responsibility and whatever. But often when they do the harder stuff they can become a danger to other people as well.
    Amsterdam is a good example and it does have parallels to alcohol. No, we can't control how much people drink at home and if they then get behind the wheel of a car but at least these days bartenders are *supposed* to stop serving people who get too drunk and they can ask the person if they have a designated driver and if they don't offer to call them a cab and if the person refused all of that the bartender could also call the cops and tell them that a guy just walked out of the bar intent on driving but probably too sloshed to do so.

    I actually did witness a female bartender once stop a woman from driving who had too much to drink.

    If someone HAD to consume the drugs IN a certain establishment then that would mean more levels of control to perhaps stop the person before they do something stupid.

    One of the problems also, with both alcohol and drugs is that once you're deep enough under the influence you're beyond the capacity of rational thought so you no longer think "Gee, should I be driving?"
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    Re: Drug Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stillwell View Post
    Oh yes, legalized it. I'm totally for it.

    It would seriously undercut gang violence in America. Without the ease of pot money, gangs would have a hard time holding sway over the inner cities of our country.
    I agree.

    The solution is simple folks... legalize drugs, end the Drug War and you end the black market and the need for enforcement.

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