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Thread: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by AIPman1 View Post
    did Orca ever ACTUALLY do that??? Cause, I remember tossing that idea out to the SPA back during the time Olney was with us, and he NEVER said "Oh we've done that before" - so I would LOVE to know if ANYONE ever saw OCRA in a parade. The idea came from my wife, who runs a baton group, and I thought it would be cool to pass out minicomics to kids...which is something I have done in the past...giving the brothers of girls in the baton group something to do in the parade...
    It was just Rick walking along the parade route. He wasn't part of the parade officially, and passed out comics he got other people to buy or donate.

    Show us the photos Rick, if it did happen. What's that?? They were tossed out by your wife because one of your ex-stalkees was in the photos? And then they got eaten by an alligator that lives in the sewer by your house? Sorry to hear that.

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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    Oh, my, oh my, oh my, oh my!

    But let's talk about my publishing efforts, shall we? I am presently preparing my last ten years worth of reading for treatment by several sequential artists.
    The last ten years of your reading? Why would you be apparently developing treatments of stuff you've been reading? Especially since you probably have not paid for an option on them.

    I'm guessing you mean the things you have been writing (as you call it) over the last ten years. Wow, I'm sure we'll be impressed! [/sarcasm]

    My intention is to produce an origin graphic novel and then include a chapter sharing any art from previous attempts that has or was paid for. Otherwise, once the new images are in print the old images and homage covers will be nothing but history.
    Ricky-boy.... you haven't paid for any of that artwork. You can't use any of it. And if you tried publishing it, even as "This is what it was going to look like!", you can be sued for copyright infringement (given that you ceded copyright ownership to the artists by NOT paying them!)

    I asked very little of those involved in the TightLip Entertainment venture where Freedom 3, Tales of the Spooky, and the initial Monster Squad books were concerned.
    "Very little"? Excuse me, but you asked them to accept that they would NOT be paid for work you commissioned! That's not "very little"! That's actually quite a lot!

    And if you are trying to indicate that your stories were not all that difficult for them to produce work for .... I'm going to assume that YOU were the writer of "The Origin of the Spooky" story. I've seen it with the finished artwork (which was well done in spite of the problems with the story) -- you were asking the artists to try and make sense out of your inane script. As for the writers you hired, yeah probably you didn't ask much of them except stories in the set genre. Except that not-being-paid part again. "Very little," ha!

    Monster Squad is now under revision and has a new title.
    Yeah. Because you finally got it through your skull that you'd be sued by Universal Studios if you used it. Duh!

    None of the covers shared here shall ever see print, and that is fine with me.
    But.... you just said that anything that was paid for would be seen! Isn't that contradictory? .... Oh, wait.... yeah, what with that NOT PAID FOR aspect of it. Now it makes sense.

    We're going with all original covers by high profile artists.
    How high can their profile be, if they have not already heard of how badly you treat artists? Have you paid this alleged flock of new artists for the work they are supposedly now doing for you? Or will we have an influx of new victims in the coming year?


    I have shown my characters and stories around a little over the years and really have never gotten any critiques from within the industry that would align with what 'Ms. Nibs' has always said about my stuff. So big deal.
    Rick, here's a clue for you in dealing with people whom you ask to critique things: if all they can say is "Well, that was interesting," they usually don't mean it. They mean "Oh, god! I can't think of anything to say to this guy about this stuff. It stinks so badly, but we're out here in a public place, and I'm not going to make a scene and tell him he needs to go back to kindergarten to learn to tell a story better."

    Seriously, dude. If someone actually complimented you on your work, they'd be willing to let you use their names to hype it (like I can regarding my book on mythic motifs).

    I don't believe you, Rick. I don't believe you that anyone credible as a writer has ever told you that you could write.

    She's no more an authority that that troll that takes potshots at me. And, on the Internet, she could be each and every troll that posts on her scank message board thread about me.
    I'm assuming you mean Gail with your "Ms. Nibs" comment. If so, who are you trying to fool? OF COURSE she has authority in evaluating writing. It is one of the percs of becoming a successful writer (which she is) - such a person gains authority as to what will and won't make for a workable story. It's their daily bread, of course they know what they are doing.

    And that last part.... if you are saying that Gail has time to post hundreds and hundreds of posts, logging in and out as different personae just to create the appearance of ongoing conversation, you are seriously demented. It is, of course, projection, since it is well documented that you have engaged in such a practice. But then, you've done it when you had no real other business to attend to. Gail, however, actually does have things like "writers' deadlines" to deal with.

    Although it is a shame that her efforts actually never produced any positive results in me wanting to try and square away the matter of the people that did actually deserve to be paid. A large part of that was my fault. I have never denied that. What I wanted was to be able to pay those individuals and utilize what they had created. But, contrary to their own wishes, this all went to Hell and it was easier for them to jeer and harass me, as if that was going to motivate me.
    Rick: nothing anyone has EVER posted in this thread or the old YABS thread has kept you from paying anyone. It has ALWAYS been YOUR CHOICE to pay or not pay. And you have invariably (other than paying that $100 to Scott Reed's collection agency) chosen to NOT PAY. You can't say "What I wanted was to be able to pay those individuals and utilize what they had created." Not with a straight face. What you WANTED was to use their work and NOT PAY THEM anything. Get real. And it wasn't "a large part my fault" -- it was ALL your fault. And you have denied it plenty, and we can document that too.

    Stop trying to play the pity card, Rick. The one you have in your hand is ratty, mangled, and marked for the purposes of cheating. We know exactly what it is. It is you trying to make it everyone else's fault that you can't have what you want on a silver platter on top of not paying for any of it.

    Try joining the real world, Rick.
    There is always a place for storytellers.

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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    Not to mention the fact that I've rarely seen a 'first publishing attempt' that was SO PERFECT that a person didn't have at least one critique.

    Hell, I LOVE Tom Stillwell's "Honor Brigade" to DEATH but there are a few grammatical problems in there. Since then he's tightened things up immensely but guess what? That's what comes from writing and writing and writing and learning from your writing.

    So if Rick is saying that NO ONE had any critiques for his writing then they're obviously being nice and not saying anything at all.


    Hell, I've gone through two Master's degree programs, written umteen papers AND a 125 page Master's Thesis and I never had a darn one come back to me from the teacher without SOME critique in the margins.

    That's what editors (and teachers) are FOR!
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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stressfactor View Post
    Not to mention the fact that I've rarely seen a 'first publishing attempt' that was SO PERFECT that a person didn't have at least one critique.

    Hell, I LOVE Tom Stillwell's "Honor Brigade" to DEATH but there are a few grammatical problems in there. Since then he's tightened things up immensely but guess what? That's what comes from writing and writing and writing and learning from your writing.

    So if Rick is saying that NO ONE had any critiques for his writing then they're obviously being nice and not saying anything at all.


    Hell, I've gone through two Master's degree programs, written umteen papers AND a 125 page Master's Thesis and I never had a darn one come back to me from the teacher without SOME critique in the margins.

    That's what editors (and teachers) are FOR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Doc Martin View Post
    Um...that's "umPteen".
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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacQuarrie View Post
    As I understand it, in Britain and most of its colonies, corporate names are always treated as plurals. Lucasfilm is singular but it is composed of many individuals, hence the plural.
    You are right, Mac.

    In the US, the collective noun Lucasfilm is treated as singular. e.g.: Lucasfilm is releasing a movie next week.
    In the UK, et.al. the collective noun Lucasfilm is treated as plural. e.g.: Lucasfilm are releasing a movie next week.

    I didn't mean to be that subtle. My intention was to inform one and all that the name of the corporation is LUCASFILM, NOT Lucasfilms!

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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    Stolen maps, stolen art, cheated creators, the ruined reputation... I love how nothing is ever Rick's fault.

    How pitiful...

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    Re: Rick Olney: Still does not pay freelancers or anyone else.

    It's interesting. I'm not sure how I am to blame for everyone who ever worked with him hating his guts. We hear from people who worked with him and want nothing to do with him way before I ever met him. We hear from people who have never read these boards who think he's the most repulsive guy in comics.

    Blame others all you want, Rick. Most of us don't have dozens of former friends going around saying these things about us that all your former friends say about you. If you had any guts at all, you'd admit your responsibility.

    But we know you don't, so no worries!

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    It's also funny how he has a different arch-nemesis over the years.

    What an idiot. I always pity people who blame all their personal failures on others.

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    I don't understand the nickname "ms. Nibs" he's assigned you Gail?!? What's that supposed to mean?

    Oh and also why doesn't the coward post here since he has an account?

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