The Vegetarian and Vegan Lifestyle Thread

[King of Mars]

I'm with you vegans in spirit, but I can't give up meat. Like it too much.

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

I'm with you vegans in spirit, but I can't give up meat. Like it too much.

We will break you!

[Treacle]

Just ran across this article on Slate where a vegan argues that eating oysters is okay because they don't feel pain, because you can farm them without harming the environment, and because they pose little threat to other animals when harvested.

What do you all think of his position?

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

Just ran across this article on Slate where a vegan argues that eating oysters is okay because they don't feel pain, because you can farm them without harming the environment, and because they pose little threat to other animals when harvested.

What do you all think of his position?

I think he doesn't make much sense.

[jamestolliver]

I think he doesn't make much sense.

Why is that? I thought it was interesting.

[The Human Target]

I often wonder why when a person does one thing to make what they feel is a positive change in action, they're expected to be a saint in all of their activities. Yes, ideally, we should be basing all decisions on positive intention and research, but, when all is said and done, nobody is a saint. We're all just human. That's why, as I mentioned earlier, I try not to make a debate out of my vegetarianism.

Who am I? We all just do the best we can. Should I give up one thing that I consider a "good," because all my actions aren't "good?" That's the kind of thought that leads to no positive change at all. I don't feel that make's one a hypocrite. Not that I necessarily think that this what you're saying.

Yeah, it wasn't intended to call anyone out. But these things do interest me. As someone who doesn't care enough about anything to do anything about it, I question the motives of anyone who does.

Not eating bug shellac cause its icky or unhealthy I can see. Not doing it because its "wrong" does seem pretty weird to me.

Bingo. HT could do a lot of good by posting links to companies that help push American (or first-world manufactured)-made products. I admit that I often find a lot of stuff (clothes) I'd like to buy out my price range (good food is expensive), so I buy a lot of second hand items.

Yeah, but I don't really care and I'm lazy.

[Ryudo]

I stick with meat because they wrote such a catchy theme song to go with it.

[HOOKS]

I am going to try this dish tonight.

http://www.veganloveplanet.com/2010/...an-burger.html

[Fake Pat]

Just ran across this article on Slate where a vegan argues that eating oysters is okay because they don't feel pain, because you can farm them without harming the environment, and because they pose little threat to other animals when harvested.

What do you all think of his position?

Makes perfect sense to me.

[frzamonkey]

Is hunting okay then?

as ok as hunting humans, I guess...

eating oysters would still be a no-go for an ethical vegan because even if it doesn't feel pain, it is a living creature that doesn't deserve to be treated as a "thing". Look at that definition of speciesism again.