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    BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

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    This week we are reading: Universal War One #1 (Marvel/Soleil) by Denis Bajram

    This week the Alternative Review Group is reading: Bottomless Belly Button by Dash Shaw (Fantagraphics, 05/21)

    http://www.606studios.com/bendisboar....php?p=4956604


    The voting for next weeks book will begin Friday

    Our reviewers this week are:

    Thudpucker - 8
    MAK15 - 8
    greg donovan - 9

    Sy-Klone - 8



    Our Previous reviews:

    **ATTN: There has been a change in how we are allowed to review older books. Please feel free to review any of the 24 most recent books at any time. If you would like to review a book older than that please PM me first, those threads are over 6 months old they are locked. If you'd like to review one of those books I'll create a new thread and link to the original.

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    (First 16 scores lost during the Image Board crash)

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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    this is on the top of my "to read" pile as soon as the kids go to bed.
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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    I'll start with the good. The art is stunning, absolutely beautif work. I love every aspect of it, the detail, the deign, the colors. Barjram is a true master.

    Unfortunately the story didn't appeal to me much. It was very dry and predictably ugly. I was excited at the chance to read a real sci-fi comic, hardcore non-superhero work. And this is that, it's well written and deep. I think alot of people will like this book alot, there is nothing objectively that I would fault. My problem with it was more a personal taste thing, most of the story is bleak character drama and that's a hard sell for me.

    I'd go 8 on this one.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    btw, anyone put off by the 5.99 cover shouldn't be, it's a great value. It's 46 pages (and most pages have 8 or more panels, lots of story) with no ads, all 46 pages are completely uninterupted.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thudpucker View Post
    btw, anyone put off by the 5.99 cover shouldn't be, it's a great value. It's 46 pages (and most pages have 8 or more panels, lots of story) with no ads, all 46 pages are completely uninterupted.
    i knew you would like that part.
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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    This week we are reading: Universal War One #1 (DC) by Denis Bajram
    Marvel/Soleil isn't it?


    Cant read it anyway, reguardless of pages

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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thudpucker View Post
    btw, anyone put off by the 5.99 cover shouldn't be, it's a great value. It's 46 pages (and most pages have 8 or more panels, lots of story) with no ads, all 46 pages are completely uninterupted.
    you pay the same amount for most Heavy Metal issues.
    but their ads are all porn.

    anyways, I liked this.
    MAK gives this an 8.

    it feels like a plot from a movie, the rag tag group of outcasts with differentiating personalities that almost gets 'em killed or makes 'em kill each other.
    I'm so glad that Marvel decided to bring this stateside.
    I anticipate the next issue.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    When I saw this on the shelf today, I thought it had something to do with New Universal.
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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    i loved this a lot.

    it was a great classic hard sci fi story with spectacular art.

    i am glad they chose to make this an oversized page count, cutting it in half would have really hurt the pacing for me. where it ended was really awesome.

    9/10
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    Re: BB Review Group week 192 - Universal War One #1 (spoilers)

    Hmm... might end up getting this in trade based on the strong reviews. I was already getting 2 trades this week, and the extra $6 would have put me right over the edge...

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