LITG: John Byrne redoes a Bendis MA panel

[JABSEN]

"Who the fuck cares...she looks like a whore now that she's dyed her hair blonde."

heh. Nice.

[schizorabbit]

"Who the fuck cares...she looks like a whore now that she's dyed her hair blonde."

"Ohmygawd, Jessica. Tina told me that Monica said you looked like a big fat whore since you dyed your hair. Like Jessica Alba in the Fantastic Whore, I mean, Four."

[nihilance]

Anyone who wrote the dialogue, let alone the plot to this:

needs to shut the hell up and draw. I mean... really.

USM is just Chapter One without the editorial mandate to make it 616 retroactive continuity. The difference is more between the chances Jemas took over Mackie than anything else.

[Run-BMC]

Ahhh, it's all about whose side you're on. On message boards, that's always how it is.

Remember when Maleev redrew Power Girl to show the board how he would have done the Michael Turner JLA cover? Same thing, really. And everyone loved that.

[Mister Mets]

Bendis has a very distinct style of dialogue, and all his characters, no matter how individualistic and fully-realized, speak in a pseudo-snarky pattern. To me, this still came across as a regal Doom, but a Doom who's involved with a lover, who's desperate not to see Latveria and his empire crumble due to an unforeseeable mistake. Even Doom can lose his shit, and that's what it came across as to me.

Yeah, I think the panel and the controversy over it is more the result of it being taken out of context than anything else.

[Run-BMC]

I just don't know why John had to do this so publicly. He could've done the panel, done the dialogue and send it to Brian with a note saying what issues he had with the dialogue. Doing it the way he did was just so ridiculous.

My first reaction was this one. He so never got what Spidey was about and Brian could've easily ripped John's work on this book just as publicly. But he hasn't done so, which shows more class. And I've been a HUGE Byrne fan for most of his career. But to throw stones at someone else's writing, with THIS on their resume is a pretty daring thing to do.

Everyone's got things on their resume that they're not proud of. I don't think people should throw stones publicly, period really. No one comes off looking classy.

[BronxRonin]

Everyone's got things on their resume that they're not proud of. I don't think people should throw stones publicly, period really. No one comes off looking classy.

wurd!

[TheKraken]

USM is just Chapter One without the editorial mandate to make it 616 retroactive continuity. The difference is more between the chances Jemas took over Mackie than anything else.

Chapter One is more like the early days of Marvel Adventures Spider-Man (Or maybe it was that previous Spider-Man book... Was there a Spider-Man Adventures right before that? I forget) than USM in that it was just remaking Stan'n'Steve without any major changes. Chapter One featured kids who didn't talk like kids dressed like grunge fans. It was rather telling that Byrne went to the trouble of coming up with a continuity explanation for a coloring mistake in Amazing Fantasy #15 but didn't bother to research what kids were actually like at the time. But its biggest problem, really, was his choice of structure. I mean, it was basically just the first 13 Spidey stories re-told, there's nothing inherently wrong with the plots. But every issue started in the middle, then flashed back, then ended on a cliffhanger. Every issue after the first one would end on a cliffhanger that wasn't resolved until the 2nd half of the following issue. It was one of the worst gimmicks I've ever seen.

[Jim T.]

Chapter One is more like the early days of Marvel Adventures Spider-Man (Or maybe it was that previous Spider-Man book... Was there a Spider-Man Adventures right before that? I forget) than USM in that it was just remaking Stan'n'Steve without any major changes. Chapter One featured kids who didn't talk like kids dressed like grunge fans. It was rather telling that Byrne went to the trouble of coming up with a continuity explanation for a coloring mistake in Amazing Fantasy #15 but didn't bother to research what kids were actually like at the time. But its biggest problem, really, was his choice of structure. I mean, it was basically just the first 13 Spidey stories re-told, there's nothing inherently wrong with the plots. But every issue started in the middle, then flashed back, then ended on a cliffhanger. Every issue after the first one would end on a cliffhanger that wasn't resolved until the 2nd half of the following issue. It was one of the worst gimmicks I've ever seen.

To be fair, though, a lot of that structure stuff could have been editorially driven, rather than the writer's choice.

[TheKraken]

To be fair, though, a lot of that structure stuff could have been editorially driven, rather than the writer's choice.

Anything's possible, but I'm not pinning an idea that shitty on anyone not credited as the writer without evidence.