LITG: John Byrne redoes a Bendis MA panel

[lonesomefool]

Nelson (his Action Comics inker) was taking it upon himself to redraw some things. Byrne was understandly not happy, but I never heard him raise hell about it or anything.

Gail would know better than I.

The sad thing about that, is I actually thought his "work" with Nelson was the best his artwork had looked in years. I understand why he wasnt happy, but his run on that book with Gail is about the only thing he has done since I have started reading comics again that I really enjoyed looking at.

[THAT Sean!]

Anyone who wrote the dialogue, let alone the plot to this:

needs to shut the hell up and draw. I mean... really.

Those were the first words out of my mouth, my parents say. How could you be so cruel, Tom Beland??

[TomBelandTSSTG]

I just don't know why John had to do this so publicly. He could've done the panel, done the dialogue and send it to Brian with a note saying what issues he had with the dialogue. Doing it the way he did was just so ridiculous.

My first reaction was this one. He so never got what Spidey was about and Brian could've easily ripped John's work on this book just as publicly. But he hasn't done so, which shows more class. And I've been a HUGE Byrne fan for most of his career. But to throw stones at someone else's writing, with THIS on their resume is a pretty daring thing to do.

[Kefky]

B.'s probably gonna cry if he ever sees this thread.

[The Hodag]

I just don't know why John had to do this so publicly. He could've done the panel, done the dialogue and send it to Brian with a note saying what issues he had with the dialogue. Doing it the way he did was just so ridiculous.

I can't seem to find the thread where Byrne originally did it (Rich's link just goes to the thread where the Byrne board discovered it had "gone public"), but my sense is that Byrne didn't do this as some shot across the bow. I think someone on Byrne's board just posted the Bendis panel, which as Rich himself noted has already been the subject of plenty of internet joking, and Byrne posted a recent Doom pin-up he'd done with added dialogue showing how he'd have conveyed the same meaning. It seems more like a lark to me, though perhaps destined to blow up because everyone watches Byrne's board like a hawk for the latest outrage. I know, at least, that the Doom image was a commission from a few months ago, which makes the whole thing seem far less premeditated.

My first reaction was this one. He so never got what Spidey was about and Brian could've easily ripped John's work on this book just as publicly. But he hasn't done so, which shows more class. And I've been a HUGE Byrne fan for most of his career. But to throw stones at someone else's writing, with THIS on their resume is a pretty daring thing to do.

You know Bendis spoofed Byrne in an Oni press special way back when, right? I think he portrayed him as Ego the Living Planet. I also seem to remember a jab in Fortune and Glory. And here and there elsewhere. Now...I wouldn't be shocked if Byrne fired the first shot, and he's hardly ever the "good guy", but neither of these dudes has exactly shown a lot of class where the other is concerned.

[Mattman]

There was a time when I loathed John Byrne. I placed him in the same leaky lifeboat as Todd McFarlane. But as the years pass and I look back on the thousands of hours of storytelling entertainment his run on Fantastic Four gave me when I was growing up, I find it harder and harder to harbor such feelings for the man. Nowadays, I put in him in the same sturdy-with-a-working-engine lifeboat as Steve Ditko. And thus, I can look at the Dr. Doom picture and (a) appreciate it for the work of art it is, and (b) give a little chuckle. After all, he kind of has a point (no offense intended there B-Man).

[The Hodag]

There was a time when I loathed John Byrne. I placed him in the same leaky lifeboat as Todd McFarlane. But as the years pass and I look back on the thousands of hours of storytelling entertainment his run on Fantastic Four gave me when I was growing up, I find it harder and harder to harbor such feelings for the man. Nowadays, I put in him in the same sturdy-with-a-working-engine lifeboat as Steve Ditko. And thus, I can look at the Dr. Doom picture and (a) appreciate it for the work of art it is, and (b) give a little chuckle. After all, he kind of has a point (no offense intended there B-Man).

He's certainly not the first amazing creator to turn into a cranky ol' bastard in his later years. C.C. Beck, the creator of Captain Marvel and one of the true greats of his era, even had a column in the Comics Journal called "The Crusty Curmudgeon."

I half think the Journal should revive that column with Byrne at the helm...

[danlomb]

Redrawing a panel kinda is. Maybe he does it all the time and I missed it.

pretty sure there was a time when he drew the ideal Cyclops because his drones were bickering about "how 'slim' should "Slim" Summers be?" after someone drew him quite beefy...

[cPol]

The sad thing is that Byrne won't be man enough to admit his own douchebaggery when it's revealed that "Doom" is a Skrull, hence the non-Doomy dialogue.

[DAVE]

Speech patterns change with the times but there needs to be some effort to remain true to the characters as well. I don't think Bendis' version is how a 21st century Doctor Doom would speak. It just seems plain out of character. Might as well have Aunt May saying "'Sup my nigga?".

Wow, talk about a non sequitor arguement.