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    Serious ROTS question about Vader's conception (SPOILERS)

    (I didn't see this come up in any of the ROTS threads that I actually managed to go through (and there's a gazillion), but I'm sure if it has already come up someone will post a link followed by that rolls eyes emoticon. Also, please excuse any spelling mistakes on Star Wars names)

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    During Anakin and Palpatine's conversation during the opera, Palpatine mentioned in the legend of the Sith that his mentor was even able to create life. Given that Palpatine supposedly learned everything from his mentor before he disposed of him and Anakin's "messianic" birth, is it possible that Palpatine used his powers to produce Anakin by "emmaculate conception" on Tatooine, born a slave so he would have been easily monitored and manipulated to become not only a powerful jedi but have the seeds sown for him to become a Sith Lord?

    Just a stupid theory. And please don't crowd this thread with Palpatine porn jokes. I've got a headache already trying to type all that out without making it an obvious gag for someone else.

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    It's been debated on here about that, and its pretty much something that has not been answered and can't be answered until Lucas confirms it one way or the other. It's an interesting notion though. First you have to believe Palpatine is Plagius's apprentice, and then you have to believe he created Anakin somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billthomason
    It's been debated on here about that, and its pretty much something that has not been answered and can't be answered until Lucas confirms it one way or the other. It's an interesting notion though. First you have to believe Palpatine is Plagius's apprentice, and then you have to believe he created Anakin somehow.
    It felt like a lot of it was sort of implied. I just thought it was interesting that the only thing that need to be brought up was the Sith's ability to save life, not create it. It seemed Palpatine looked pointively at Anakin when he said it. It certainly puts a different spin on their relationship as well.

    But yeah, it probably can't be proven unless Lucas outright confirms it, which I don't see happening.

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    I don't see it personally..

    He does have the knowledge, and he is Plageis' apprentice.. but Palpatine lies.. and has done so before to Anakin.

    It's an interesting parallel though.. as Luke is positioned to kill his dad, but Vader kills his dad (if it's true).. it has a Greek tragedy feel to it..

    I just think it's TOO much of a coincidence.

    I don't see Palpatine going so far away to do it himself. He's too busy on Naboo and wouldn't be able to escape on unexplained trips.

    Of course, there was a theory going around about Qui Gon manipulating midichlorians to create Luke and imparted part of himself into him which would go a long way to explain a lot of things.

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    Re: Serious ROTS question about Vader's conception (SPOILERS)

    Lucas said in the recent Star Wars Vanity Fair cover story that Anakin was the natural by-product of a rare confluence of midichlorians. He said that the Force and lifeforce are so interconnected, that this would not be unheard of among those characters who study the Force.
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    Re: Serious ROTS question about Vader's conception (SPOILERS)

    I took much of what Palpatine told Anakin as lies. The whole "Sith can save life" thing was a total sham, I felt. Palpatine just knew he was having those visions, and siezed on the opportunity, telling him exactly what he wanted to hear.

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    Re: Serious ROTS question about Vader's conception (SPOILERS)

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Tracker
    Lucas said in the recent Star Wars Vanity Fair cover story that Anakin was the natural by-product of a rare confluence of midichlorians. He said that the Force and lifeforce are so interconnected, that this would not be unheard of among those characters who study the Force.
    Translation: It just happened that way.

    That's how I saw it too.

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    It's a great idea which explains Vader's conception better than the Jesus comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberman
    It's a great idea which explains Vader's conception better than the Jesus comparison.
    Yeah, I hate the notion that he is a Jesus figure. Although, thinking about it, he might sorta be the anti-christ actually.

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    Re: Serious ROTS question about Vader's conception (SPOILERS)

    I the Vanity Fair interview from a couple of months ago, Lucas said the Anakin was concieved by the Force, that he was a true immaculate conception, and a demi-god. Of course, I am sure he is free to change his mind on this later.

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