It's time for some Liefeld goodness

**ds9** · 05-20-2005, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Wastrel

and just because you like it doesnt mean it is well done.

Thats the thing im not even a fan of his work. I can take it or leave it. I just dont see where all the hate is coming from. Plus i doubt the majority of comic fans hate him.

**Jim T.** · 05-20-2005, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Wastrel

and not remembered very fondly by a vast majority of people it seems.

You can't really believe that the number of people like us going back and forth on this on the internet (or at conventions or at the LCS) is really greater than the number of people who bought his books in the 90's - can you? Don't get caught in the trap that seems to haunt the internet world - our numbers are not great when compared to the numbers of ordinary average comic book buyers who just buy books they like without knowing or caring about the 616 or Liefield's version of Capt. America. We're a tiny,tiny minority, esp. compared to the huge numbers of buyers in the 90's.

**ds9** · 05-20-2005, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Mad Monkey

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=12401&highlight=Liefeld

Erik Larsen, mind you, disagrees:

"Having been ripped off, lied to and stabbed in the back by this individual, I'd really rather NOT be giving the fellow any more 'air time.' I'd prefer not to be reminded of his continued existence, frankly. If he's hit by a bus--let me know so I can go piss on his grave--otherwise, give it a rest."

NOTE: This post is completely ripped off from the fanboy rampage site.

Thats one side of the story and Its still not a reason for you to hate him. Whatever shit went down was between those 2 men.

**cory w** · 05-20-2005, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by BWCBoston

You know, by the Liefeld standards I'm accustomed to, that ain't bad.

That's what I was gonna say...

**Wastrel** · 05-20-2005, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by NewGuyJim

You can't really believe that the number of people like us going back and forth on this on the internet (or at conventions or at the LCS) is really greater than the number of people who bought his books in the 90's - can you? Don't get caught in the trap that seems to haunt the internet world - our numbers are not great when compared to the numbers of ordinary average comic book buyers who just buy books they like without knowing or caring about the 616 or Liefield's version of Capt. America. We're a tiny,tiny minority, esp. compared to the huge numbers of buyers in the 90's.

i converse with many more people than simply the bendis board or the lcs. and just because someone bought his books back in the 90s doesnt mean they especially liked his artwork or that they even still like it. i do understand that it is important not to have vision limited by the internet, but as far as art goes it is also important to not have your vision limited by our tiny and unhealthy industry.

**ds9** · 05-20-2005, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Wastrel

i converse with many more people than simply the bendis board or the lcs. and just because someone bought his books back in the 90s doesnt mean they especially liked his artwork or that they even still like it. i do understand that it is important not to have vision limited by the internet, but as far as art goes it is also important to not have your vision limited by our tiny and unhealthy industry.

Are you saying its wrong for people to buy a book that he draws?

**Wastrel** · 05-20-2005, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by ds9

Thats the thing im not even a fan of his work. I can take it or leave it. I just dont see where all the hate is coming from. Plus i doubt the majority of comic fans hate him.

well, my dislike comes from the fact that his perspective is off, his anatomy is never constant and would prevent his characters from moving. among many compositional problems. the fact that he sold a few comics in the '90s or even if it was now means nothing to me. pet rocks sold a whole lot more, and pretty lame in my opinion.

**Wastrel** · 05-20-2005, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by ds9

Are you saying its wrong for people to buy a book that he draws?

no. like i said, what it is worth is subjective.

**ds9** · 05-20-2005, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Wastrel

well, my dislike comes from the fact that his perspective is off, his anatomy is never constant and would prevent his characters from moving. among many compositional problems. the fact that he sold a few comics in the '90s or even if it was now means nothing to me. pet rocks sold a whole lot more, and pretty lame in my opinion.

Whats lame is running to show his art and posting how evil his is because of rumours and how bad his art is every couple of days. And i do it too about padding in comics but this liefield thing is like its personal and not just about his art or having feet on his pics. The worse that this man did to the public was not finishing his work and jumping to other shit. Other than that what else has he done to you or others who post how bad he is is?

**joeAR** · 05-20-2005, 06:32 AM

This shit is getting rediculous now. It's one thing to dislike the guys art but every day I came on this board I see another thread about how bad is art is. Just form one thread and post everything in there. We all know his anatomy sucks that's nothing new.