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    BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

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    This week we are reading: Punisher #50 (Marvel) By Garth Ennis and Howard Chaykin

    The voting for next weeks book will begin Friday

    Our reviewers this week are:

    Jef UK - 9
    Kingsumo - 8
    Shade - 6
    Johnny C. TheLastHorseman - 8.5
    charlie - 8
    Cap's Corpse - 9.99
    Ray G. - 9.5
    D-Money - 9.5
    NickT - 9
    Icaruss - 9
    joeAR - 9.5
    Simpson - 8
    Doug - 9
    blake4000 - 8
    Your dorky Snob - 8
    Joe Henderson - 9
    Bedlam66 - 8
    Vonn Henniger - 9.5
    Brad N. - 9.5
    changingshades - 9
    dEnny! - 9.25





    Our Previous reviews:

    Spoiler:
    (First 16 scores lost during the Image Board crash)

    Week 01 - 11/17/04 � Captain America #1
    Week 02 - 11/24/04 � Flash #216
    Week 03 - 12/01/04 � Darkness Vol. 2 #17 (av grade 3.7)
    Week 04 - 12/08/04 � Demo #12
    Week 05 - 12/15/04 - Plastic Man #13
    Week 06 - 12/22/04 � Goon #10
    Week 07 - 12/29/04 - Legion of Super Heroes #1
    Week 08 - 01/05/05 � Flaming Carrot #1
    Week 09 - 01/12/05 � Majestic #1
    Week 10 - 01/19/05 � Human Target #18
    Week 11 - 01/26/05 � Conan #12 (av grade 8.3)
    Week 12 - 02/02/05 � Black Panther #1
    Week 13 - 02/09/05 � Young Avengers #1
    Week 14 - 02/16/05 � Ex Machina #8 (av grade 8.4)
    Week 15 - 02/23/05 � X-Men #167
    Week 16 - 03/02/05 � Ultimate Iron Man #1


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    Week 21 pick - GLA #1 (Slott and Pelletier) av grade - 6.8
    Week 22 pick - Nightwing #107 (Grayson and Hester) av grade - 5.8
    Week 23 pick - Iron Ghost #1 (Dixon and Cariello) av grade - 4.9
    Week 24 pick - City Of Tomorrow (Howard Chaykin) av grade - 6.2
    Week 25 pick - Villains United #1 (Simone and Eaglesham) av grade - 5.7
    Week 26 pick - Desolation Jones #1 (Ellis and Williams III) av grade - 8.9
    Week 27 pick - Guardian #2 (Morrison and Stewart) av grade - 6.1
    Week 28 pick - Adv. Of Superman #640 (Rucka and Kerschl) av - 6.1
    Week 29 pick - Son Of Vulcan #1 (Beatty and Grant) av grade - 3.7
    Week 30 pick - JLA #115 (Johns, Heinberg, Batista) av grade - 6.9
    Week 31 pick - Wildsiderz #0 (Campbell and Hartnell) av grade - 2.9
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    Week 33 pick - Albion #1 (Moore and Oakley) av grade - 5.0
    Week 34 pick - Gotham Central #33 (Rucka, Brubaker, Kano) av - 8.5
    Week 35 pick - Mutopia X (Hine and Medina) av grade - 5.2
    Week 36 pick - Athiest #2 (Hester and McCrea) av grade - 6.9
    Week 37 pick - JLA: Classified #10 (Ellis and Guise) av grade - 6.9
    Week 38 pick - Justice #1 (Ross, Krueger & Braithwaite) av grade 7.9
    Week 39 pick - The Winter Men #1 (Lewis and Leon) av grade 5.3
    Week 40 pick - Batman: Journey into Knight #1 (Helfer & Huat) av - 4.4
    Week 41 pick - Jack Cross #1 (Ellis and Erskine) av grade 6.1
    Week 42 pick - Runaways #7 (Vaughan & Miyazawa) av grade 7.8
    Week 43 pick - Ghost Rider #1 (Ennis and Crain) av grade 6.4
    Week 44 pick - Thor: Blood Oath #1 (Oeming and Kolins) av grade 7.1
    Week 45 pick - Wolverine #32 (Millar and Andrews) av grade 8.2
    Week 46 pick - Losers #28 (Diggle and Wilson) av grade 7.4
    Week 47 pick - FF/I M : Big In Japan #1 (Wells & Fisher) av grade 5.6
    Week 48 pick - F N Spider-Man #1 (David and Wieringo) av grade 7.3
    Week 49 pick - Fin Fang Four #1 (Langridge & Grey) av grade 8.8
    Week 50 pick - Book Of Lost Souls #1 (JMS & Doran) av grade 5.6
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    Week 55 pick - Generation M #1 (Jenkins and Bachs) av grade 7.3
    Week 56 pick - Marvel Team-Up #15 (Kirkman & Medina) av grade 6.0
    Week 57 pick - Amazing Joy Buzzards 2 #3 (Smith and Hipp) av grade 5.1
    Week 58 pick - Testament #1 (Rushkoff and Sharp) av grade 7.4
    Week 59 pick - New Avengers #14 (Bendis and Cho) av grade 7.6
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    Week 61 pick - Ares #1 (Oeming and Foreman) av grade 8.2
    Week 62 pick - Sgt. Rock: Prophecy #1 (Joe Kubert) - av grade 7.7
    Week 63 pick - Nextwave #1 (Ellis and Immonen) av grade 9.1
    Week 64 pick - Betty and Veronica Digest #163 av grade 4.2
    Week 65 pick - Fables #46 (Willingham and Fern) av grade 7.5
    Week 66 pick - Daredevil #82 (Brubaker and Lark) av grade 9.6
    Week 67 pick - Ast. X-Men #13 (Whedon & Cassaday) av grade 8.5
    Week 68 pick - Ms. Marvel #1 (Reed and de la Torre) av grade 7.3
    Week 69 pick - American Virgin #1 (Seagle & Cloonan) av grade 7.1
    Week 70 pick - Annihilation Prologue (Giffen & Kolins) av grade 6.3
    Week 71 pick - Hawkgirl #50 (Simonson and Chaykin) av grade 5.0
    Week 72 pick - Savage Dragon # 124 (Erik Larson) av grade 7.2
    Week 73 pick - Moon Knight #1 (Huston & Finch) av grade 7.5
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    Week 75 pick - Squadron Supreme #2 (JMS & Frank) av grade 6.4
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    Week 91 pick - Martian Manhunter #1 (Lieberman & Barrionuevo) A.G. 5.3
    Week 92 pick - The Boys #1 (Ennis and Robertson) av grade 8.5
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    Our higest average grades so far were for Pride of Baghdad with 9.66 and Daredevil #82 with 9.64

    Our lowest average grade so far Wildsiderz #0 with 2.9

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    What we do: This is a fanbased review group, open to everybody.

    As people post the reviews, I will add your name and score to a list in the main post and at the end of the week average the scores for an overall grade on the book. We grade on a scale of 0-10, the meanings of which roughly translate to:

    10 - Everything I want in a comic, an instant classic
    9 - Excellent, a nearly perfect read
    8 - Highly recommended but it has minor flaws
    7 - Very good, it does have some problems
    6 - Above average but has deep flaws
    5 - An average comic
    4 - Below average, the flaws outweigh the good
    3 - A disappointing comic
    2 - Forgettable, a waste of time
    1 - Stay away!! One of the worst comics I've read

    Anyone who participates is asked to please keep this scale in mind when giving a grade so that everyone is operating on the same system.

    THERE IS NO OBLIGATION TO PARTICIPATE EVERY WEEK. Please join in as little or as much as you like week to week. If you are uncomfortable giving a grade then just join in the discussions and ask questions.

    Last edited by dEnny!; 10-17-2009 at 04:37 PM.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    Sigh.. 8 more hours before I will have the chance to start enjoying my comics. So cannot wait.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    Holy. Fuck.

    You guys aren't going to believe this one.

    Holy. Fuck.

    9/10. Some great Chaykin panels, some lousy Chaykin panels. The story was pitch perfect, however.
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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    I picked this up because everyone here seemed so excited about it, but I haven't had a chance to read it yet. I thought for some reason that it was a one shot issue, so I'm a little annoyed at that, but very much looking forward to checking it out.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    Wow. For having not read a punisher title in something like 12 years, it is good to see some thing don't really change.

    This was a pretty damn impressive issue. Good compelling story with lots of action. The art was rather nice as well. There were some places where I felt a little lost, but not enough to detract from the story at all. 8/10

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    6- loved the story, hated the art.

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsumo View Post
    Wow. For having not read a punisher title in something like 12 years, it is good to see some thing don't really change.

    This was a pretty damn impressive issue. Good compelling story with lots of action. The art was rather nice as well. There were some places where I felt a little lost, but not enough to detract from the story at all. 8/10
    The first 49 issues of this series are easily some of the best comics produced in the last 12 years. You've never read a Punisher title like this before.
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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    Ok, I read this only for the purpose of reviewing it for this thread, figured it would be pretty good, as most of Ennis' stuff is, but to be honest, didn't really expect to like it all that much.

    Oh wow this was fuckin goooooooood. Seriously, really fucking good. And man, this is the best I've seen Chaykin's art in a loooooooong time. I used to love the guy's stuff, but in the past few years I think he's really slipped. But this issue was really tight, he really brought it again. Good shit.

    8.5/10

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    I haven't picked up Punisher since this series started, though I have always been an Ennis fan. At the recommendation of my LCS owner, I picked up the wonderful Punisher Presents: Barracuda series, and was not going to miss Barracuda interacting with The Punisher. Great story and great art by Chaykin, who I have really become a fan of in recent years. Now I'm off to the back issue bins to see what I have been missing with this Punisher series, and am eagerly awaiting next issue. 8/10

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    Re: BB Review Group week 142 - Punisher #50 (spoilers)

    Wow, I hope you guys who just picked up this issue for the review group go check out the hardcovers and such. This is seriously one of the best comics produced, well, ever, if you like well-told stories with very mature content.
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