Reply With QuoteWTF does Aunt May have to do with anything?
Spoilers for #7 and ASM.
I read Civil War #7 and I thought it ended well. It sets up a very interesting and exciting status quo for the Marvel Universe, but I'm worried about the message it leaves us with.
Reed Richards told that story about his uncle, and he said that his uncle was wrong for opposing the law. Regardless of how draconian and unfair a law is, they should be obeyed. I feel like that's the lesson we're supposed to take away from Civil War as a whole. Tony was right, and Cap should rot in prison for opposing the law, opinion and morality be damned.
Now, knowing Millar and reading The Ultimates, perhaps he is trying to give us a ironic look at the Act, the same way he does with The Ultimates policing the world, and I feel that the beats to undermine the shiny happy fascism that Tony has championed are there (Thunderbolts, Aunt May, Cap in prison, 42, etc), but they're not being highlighted. If 42 was just #42 on a list of 100 things to do, I can't imagine the police state Tony is going to create with his new directorship, but it's being touted as a Good Thing. People are suffering in the Negative Zone, without trial or representation, but it's all okay because Miriam Sharpe has her revenge.
If we're supposed to be saying "heeeyyyy, wait a minute", then that's not being made clear enough in my opinion.
Am I wrong? Is everyone seeing these obvious continued flaws in the Act? Are we meant to continue to argue this, with goods and bads on both sides?
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Francis
WTF does Aunt May have to do with anything?
Yeah, Cap should've addressed this better when he surrendered. The way things have been left it feels like a set-up for a crossover in a few years that will address the failings of the Act.
What constitues a "police state"? having law enforcement officers thoughout the country under one auspice? Wouldn't U.S. Marshals constitute a current police state too? And how is Tony championing facsism when the bill was approved and put into law like every other federal law in the country?
Sometimes I think people just like tossing around words like "police state" and "facsist" without the foggiest clue as to what they really are.
She was shot as a direct result of the Act. Kingpin found out who Spider-Man was and killed his family. The minute I heard about the Act this is what I knew the danger was, but Tony just glosses over it, he doesn't care because he lives in a fucking fortress. Well Peter doesn't, and as we've seen in Thunderbolts, Jack Flagg doesn't either. No wonder Reed was okay with the Act, his children are protected in the fucking Baxter Building.Originally Posted by Kefky
WTF does Aunt May have to do with anything?
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Francis
Addressed what? He had a chance to stop this from happening, and fucked it up. He admitted his mistake, and faced the consequences. There's nothing else he could've done at that point. He's giving the people what they want.
People know who cops are and who the families of cops are. It goes with the territory.
why does it have to have a lesson?
Spidey was getting special protection while he was on Tony's side. Then he decided to switch. Whatever happened afterwards is HIS burned and nobody else's.
yea, but cops arent forced to become cops and work for the gov. just because they are faster and stronger than everyone else.
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