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    Lyric/historical reference help

    My wife begins teaching a new semester of students this week, and we discussed new research paper topics to assign. Primarily we're tired of the same old topics (Nobel Peace Prize winners, oppressed peoples, etc). I suggested something that would incorporate poetry and fact-checking, mainly telling kids to pick a song with a historical reference and explain how it refers to it and why the event was important. Or the kids can pick an event and catalog songs that refer to it.

    We want to give them some examples and off the top of my head I can think of:
    - a few country songs dealing with 9/11,
    - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald,
    - U2's "Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" and the assassination of MLK Jr.
    - various Vietnam and Iraq protest songs
    - Don McLean's "American Pie"

    The last one opens up a can of worms because it's culturally significant, and that might open the door for all types of references to the Tupac and Biggie deaths, types of dances (the Hustle, the Train, the Macarena) or even fashions (thongs, etc.). We're not sure if we want to broaden the subjects that much.

    What other historical references can y'all think of in songs?
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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For is not about MLK's assassination, if I'm not mistaken. Pride (In the Name of Love) is.

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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" would really fuck with them.

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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeE View Post
    I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For is not about MLK's assassination, if I'm not mistaken. Pride (In the Name of Love) is.
    You're right. I got them switched.
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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    I could list a bunch of songs, but I doubt they'd know them, since all kids listen to these days is hip-hop (and not the good, literate kind).

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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" would really fuck with them.
    We're gonna disqualify that one. Too easy. Probably the same with "End of the World as We Know it."

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeE View Post
    I could list a bunch of songs, but I doubt they'd know them, since all kids listen to these days is hip-hop (and not the good, literate kind).
    We live in an area (mountain hillbilly) that is pretty broad in musical tastes, but light in hip-hop. List some songs please.
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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    U2 - the aforementioned song, Sunday Bloody Sunday
    Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
    Billie Holiday - Strange Fruit (this song needs to be heard, period)
    The Clash - Rock the Casbah

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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    Another one by Don McLean is Starry Starry Night, which is about Van Gogh

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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    I'm copying these (with accompanying lyrics) in an email to the missus. This kind of paper could spread throughout the school system here, and I'm preparing the songs with comments about educational relevance and why some songs are discounted (we might change our minds on the event-list songs).

    If I was a student in high school, this paper would be right up my nerdy alley.
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    Re: Lyric/historical reference help

    Flogging Molly's--Tobbacco Island

    it makes references to events during cromwell's rule in england.

    "Tobacco Island"

    [Chorus]
    All to hell we must sail
    For the Shores of sweet Barbados
    Where the sugar cane grows taller
    Than the god we once believed in
    Till the butcher and his crown
    Raped the land we used to sleep in
    Now tommorow chimes of ghostly crimes
    That haunt Tobacco Island

    'Twas 1659 forgotten now for sure
    They dragged us from our homeland
    With the musket and their gun
    Cromwell and his roundheads
    Battered all we know
    Shackled hopes of freedom
    We're now but stolen goods
    Darken the horizon
    Blackened from the sun
    This rotten cage of Bridgetown
    Is where I now belong

    [Chorus]

    Red leg down a peg
    Blistered burns the soul
    The floggings they're a plenty
    But reasons there are none
    Our backs belong to landlords
    Where branded is there name
    Paid for with ten shillings
    Cheap labor never breaks
    The silver moon is shinin'
    Cools the copper blood
    Where the livin' meet the dead
    And together dance as one

    [Chorus]

    Agony, will you cleanse this misery?
    For it's never again i'll breathe
    The air of home
    From this sandy edge
    The rolling sea breaks my revenge
    With each whisper a thousand waves
    I hear roar
    I'm coming home

    Dark is the horizon
    Blackened by the sun
    This rotten cage of Bridgetown
    Is where I now belong

    [Chorus]
    'If You Don't Know Where You're Going, Any Road Will Get You There." --The Cheshire Cat

    Be hold the Glory of Hermit Crab in a Glass Shell

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