HEROES: Zach's been de-gayed

[Shwicaz]

In interviews that took place prior to the series' premiere, creator Tim Kring and openly gay writer Bryan Fuller explicitly stated that Zach's character was intended to be gay (a fact that would be revealed later in the season) but that NBC network executives seemed resistant to the idea.

Technically, he never says “I'm gay”, but even NBC's website was fooled by all the subtext – its official recap of the “Homecoming” episode states that Zach “stammers with his reply, admitting that he's gay”. At least it did. NBC recently edited those words out of the transcript. If the network's own marketing efforts can't get the facts straight, it's not outlandish to think that millions of viewers may have been led to the same apparently erroneous conclusion.

[Wastrel]

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboar...d.php?t=100683

still not seeing the creators saying the character is gay.

[Shwicaz]

And the only point we're trying to make is prior to this article, no one had any idea what was "intended". And I don't even know who the creator is, let anole anything he's said. I usually try to just enjoy the shows I watch. My boyfriend reads all the journals and wikipedia crap, and if there's something interesting or important, he tells me. Other than that, if it's not in the show, I dont know it. And as I started before, there was no definate way of knowing from the show. Some bitchy cheerleader started a rumor, and Claire was a total bitch to him.

See, I thought he was gay from day one.

He reminded me of me as a teen in shcool: quiet, quirky, hanging out with the 'hot' girl, but not showing any real interest in her.

I was like "oh, the guy with the camera is the gay guy".

my lesbian room mate agreed.

I guess its all how you look at it, i guess.

[Wastrel]

there are a million reasons the character could have been changed since it was first concieved, and whoever types that up for the website is not one of the creators and could easily have been mistaken.

[Shwicaz]

still not seeing the creators saying the character is gay.

do you see where it says the creator of the show and the writer intended him to be gay and have it be a trait revealed later in the season.....?


yes, it doesn't say "He is difinatively gay", but what it does say is that he was definately supposed to be.

[BaconWhoreSqueeeaaal]

I guess its all how you look at it, i guess.

I think if the cheerleader hadn't started the rumor, it would have clicked differently. I just viewed it as a bitch being a bitch. And there are lots of akward boys in shows that aren't gay. Maybe I watched too much Nickelodeon as a kid.

[Jonny Z]

still not seeing the creators saying the character is gay.

no offense dude, but are you blind?

this is from the first few paragraphs of the article that this thread is about-

For those that have followed the show closely and taken even a cursory look at NBC's marketing efforts around the show (which have repeatedly insinuated, implied and led most viewers to believe that the character is gay), this is interesting—and troubling—news.

What does it mean when a network's website portrays a character as gay, and yet the publicity department suddenly claims that he isn't? Or when the series creator and writer are quoted in an interview conducted before the show premieres that the character is, indeed, supposed to be gay? [Ed. Note: See creator Tim Kring's response to the controversy on the AfterElton.com blog.] That's not even factoring in all the loaded dialogue and the character's gay-friendly Myspace page (how many straight teens love Priscilla: Queen of the Desert, Velvet Goldmine, and Hedwig and the Angry Inch?). Is it possible for a character's very sexuality to be mis-marketed? Or is there a different, more disturbing situation occurring?

[Wastrel]

do you see where it says the creator of the show and the writer intended him to be gay and have it be a trait revealed later in the season.....?


yes, it doesn't say "He is difinatively gay", but what it does say is that he was definately supposed to be.

i originally concieved a character im working on as white, changed him to a black guy. thats part of the creative process.

[Jonny Z]

See, I thought he was gay from day one.

He reminded me of me as a teen in shcool: quiet, quirky, hanging out with the 'hot' girl, but not showing any real interest in her.

I was like "oh, the guy with the camera is the gay guy".

my lesbian room mate agreed.

I guess its all how you look at it, i guess.

yeah, from the first episode, i pegged him as gay. i never thought it was a big deal. just the way the actor played it and the lines he was given lead me to that conclusion. then of course, the whole homecoming bit confirms it for even those that are most resistant to the idea.

[Wastrel]

no offense dude, but are you blind?

this is from the first few paragraphs of the article that this thread is about-

i think you guys are the ones having a hard time seeing through all that righteous indignation. before the premier? their intent for the character could easily have been changed.