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Evan Wiener
12-25-2006, 08:14 PM
I find it hillarious that every local news station tracks "Santa" on from NORAD with the same cheesy 3-D animation from 1988 and reports it as fact.

Kids in this country believe anything adults tell them.

who cares?
12-25-2006, 08:15 PM
they could update the goddamn animation









wait............

















SANTA'S NOT REAL?

:(

Magnum V.I.
12-25-2006, 08:15 PM
You Mean Santa isn't real :(




EDIT: Damn You Who Cares?!!

Bedlam66
12-25-2006, 08:16 PM
I find it hillarious that every local news station tracks "Santa" on from NORAD with the same cheesy 3-D animation from 1988 and reports it as fact.

Kids in this country believe anything adults tell them.
Who Cares. What's wrong with Letting kids be Kids and believe in Magic or in this case Santa?

Natty P
12-25-2006, 08:17 PM
Wow, you get the stick in the mud award. Jesus.

Foolish Mortal
12-25-2006, 08:17 PM
Our whole country perpetuates the lie of Santa

Yes we do, and that's fine by me. :D

Wastrel
12-25-2006, 08:18 PM
i think a teacher in england just got fired for telling a bunch of 10 year olds that santa didnt exist. i think they are now required to say "i dont know." when asked by kids if he exists.

Evan Wiener
12-25-2006, 08:26 PM
They should at least update the lame-ass 3-d animation they use to show santa flying around.

CraigM
12-25-2006, 08:27 PM
They should at least update the lame-ass 3-d animation they use to show santa flying around.
Hey, he has GPS now at least.

Craig

RegularJoe
12-25-2006, 08:52 PM
i'll agrue the existence of santa til i die.

BaconWhoreSqueeeaaal
12-25-2006, 08:55 PM
I love the Santa lie. Only proves the entire world is capable of keeping a secret.

Hock
12-25-2006, 09:16 PM
I love the Santa lie. Only proves the entire world is capable of keeping a secret.

I think it actually proves children are gullible and kind of stupid.

BaconWhoreSqueeeaaal
12-25-2006, 09:18 PM
I think it actually proves children are gullible and kind of stupid.

Not really gulible. You tell a child since they can comprehend that there is a Santa, they'll believe it. It's not like you wait til they're 10 to tell them there's a Santa.

Queen of the Ban Age
12-25-2006, 09:51 PM
Ahem:

I don't believe in Santa Clause
His corporate image forced upon
The blinded spending masses
To enslave the lower classes
With obligatory gifts that serve
To cleanse a year of guilt and shame
One token gesture justifies
The apathetic, hypnotized
Leaving them to be Kris Kringle's slaves!

Buy! Buy! I won't do it!!
The season's obligation has not my participation
Buy! Buy! I won't do it!!
The money-hungry mating call of corporate swine

Cuz it's only for the money!
Yea it's only for the money!
Cuz it's only for the money!
Now Buy!!

He monitors naughty and nice
Big brother is Saint Nick
Methodically his judgment made
Documented on his list

I don't believe in Santa Clause
Or his mystical facade
To teach the children wanton greed
Their lust for gifts becomes a need

Brainwashed by the marketing
And victims of the corporate scheme
Material possessions becoming their obsessions
Till human life has lost it's value
You blindly do just what they tell you
I don't believe!!!!

His tactics of intimidation repress the minds of youth
Using fear for generations, his image hides the truth
He's just a puppet for the system, a glutton in a suit
With Yuletide propaganda and a bearded mask to boot!

WillieLee
12-25-2006, 09:55 PM
Rage against that machine.

amy
12-25-2006, 09:57 PM
I find it hillarious that every local news station tracks "Santa" on from NORAD with the same cheesy 3-D animation from 1988 and reports it as fact.

Kids in this country believe anything adults tell them.


I'm just going to take a guess and say you don't have kids, do you?

dEnny!
12-25-2006, 10:07 PM
I find it hillarious that every local news station tracks "Santa" on from NORAD with the same cheesy 3-D animation from 1988 and reports it as fact.

Kids in this country believe anything adults tell them.

Shut it Scrooge!

I think it's cute that NORAD provides this service for children. The concept and spirit of Santa Claus is real and enduring.

Hate_Prime
12-25-2006, 10:30 PM
Way to bullshit the innocent little children, NORAD!

dEnny!
12-25-2006, 10:32 PM
Way to bullshit the innocent little children, NORAD!

I will shut this thread down if I don't see some freaking Christmas cheer! :mad:

Hock
12-25-2006, 10:43 PM
I will shut this thread down if I don't see some freaking Christmas cheer! :mad:

Here's some Christmas cheer, or at least what I consider Christmas cheer.

:beer:

dEnny!
12-25-2006, 10:44 PM
Here's some Christmas cheer, or at least what I consider Christmas cheer.

:beer:

Put the beer down, get a tall glass of milk and a cookie of your choice.

DO IT! :mad:

Hock
12-25-2006, 10:49 PM
Put the beer down, get a tall glass of milk and a cookie of your choice.

DO IT! :mad:

Milk after beer, that's a bad idea. And cookies and beer don't mix. I'm sorry, I don't think I can comply.

dEnny!
12-25-2006, 10:53 PM
Milk after beer, that's a bad idea. And cookies and beer don't mix. I'm sorry, I don't think I can comply.

Oh...you already started drinking. Well tomorrow then, I'd hate for you to get sick. Pizza?

Hock
12-25-2006, 11:03 PM
Oh...you already started drinking. Well tomorrow then, I'd hate for you to get sick. Pizza?

There was chines food earlier, but now, there is beer, and in 5 minutes bed. Tomorow I promise to have a milk and cookie though, are you satisfied now?

HoneyDippinDan
12-25-2006, 11:54 PM
WTF! Spoiler alert this shit, dude!

Evan Wiener
12-26-2006, 08:17 AM
I find it hillarious that every local news station tracks "Santa" on from NORAD with the same cheesy 3-D animation from 1988 and reports it as fact.

Just a note, I'm not saying they shouldn't do it. It cracks me up that NORAD and local news puts this out there. Christmas is when news looks the other way when it comes to journalistic integrity for the kiddies. I would love to see what a 5 year-old thinks to see this staying up late and watching the news and think, holy cow, there he is!

Then they get older and wonder why everyone lied to them. I think Jon Stewart said once that when someone discovers Santa's a lie, it's the first step to cynical adulthood.

dEnny!
12-26-2006, 08:37 AM
Just a note, I'm not saying they shouldn't do it. It cracks me up that NORAD and local news puts this out there. Christmas is when news looks the other way when it comes to journalistic integrity for the kiddies. I would love to see what a 5 year-old thinks to see this staying up late and watching the news and think, holy cow, there he is!

Then they get older and wonder why everyone lied to them. I think Jon Stewart said once that when someone discovers Santa's a lie, it's the first step to cynical adulthood.

I hate to break it to you, but if you think journalists and media have integrity the other 364 days a year...well just remember every time you point the finger, three are pointing right back at you. ;)

dEnny!
12-26-2006, 08:37 AM
There was chines food earlier, but now, there is beer, and in 5 minutes bed. Tomorow I promise to have a milk and cookie though, are you satisfied now?

Yes.

BaconWhoreSqueeeaaal
12-26-2006, 08:38 AM
Aeris dies.





Shit, wrong thread again.

chess
12-26-2006, 09:20 AM
They should at least update the lame-ass 3-d animation they use to show santa flying around.

NORAD's Santa project is voluntary. If you can provide better animation, I would assume they would be happy to review your work.

My daughters and niece loved the site and it got them in bed rather quickly Dec 24.

pornbot2.5
12-26-2006, 09:42 AM
And our economy is real?

BGPu
12-26-2006, 10:07 AM
Just a note, I'm not saying they shouldn't do it. It cracks me up that NORAD and local news puts this out there. Christmas is when news looks the other way when it comes to journalistic integrity for the kiddies. I would love to see what a 5 year-old thinks to see this staying up late and watching the news and think, holy cow, there he is!

Then they get older and wonder why everyone lied to them. I think Jon Stewart said once that when someone discovers Santa's a lie, it's the first step to cynical adulthood.

Broadcast news has journalistic integrity? I'll remember that the next time I see some pointless "human interest" story that wastes 2 minutes that could be better served informing people on actual important events in the world.

badpoet
12-26-2006, 10:14 AM
Broadcast news has journalistic integrity? I'll remember that the next time I see some pointless "human interest" story that wastes 2 minutes that could be better served informing people on actual important events in the world.

"One-hundred thousand people are confirmed dead after an earthquake struck Jakarta, Indonesia yesterday. Two-hundred thousand more are still missing."

"Now, he's Consumer Reporter Racheal Thompson with an in-depth look at just who provides the most whenever minutes..."

INSERT 5 MINUTES ON CELL PHONE PLANS.

Foolish Mortal
12-26-2006, 10:16 AM
Broadcast news has journalistic integrity? I'll remember that the next time I see some pointless "human interest" story that wastes 2 minutes that could be better served informing people on actual important events in the world.
Don't know if I go that far. Human Interest stories are important to me. And I find it worrisome that local newscasts seem to be putting their focus on doing more national and international news, and less local stories. It seems like I have to depend on my newspaper for local news more and more now.

BGPu
12-26-2006, 10:20 AM
I've seen too many human interest stories on the news that are nothing more than somebody trying to get themself or their family on TV. Save it for your local newspaper. I'm not interested in seeing any more stories about families that just had quintuplets making veiled pleas for diapers and a new minivan.

youdontknowme
12-26-2006, 10:31 AM
why build up a kids belief just for them to find out later that there is no santa clause

instead teach your children about what christmas really means instead of teaching them about magic man who will bring them toys if there are good

a kid shouldnt need a motivation to be good
he should be good because his parents show him right from wrong

Foolish Mortal
12-26-2006, 10:42 AM
I've seen too many human interest stories on the news that are nothing more than somebody trying to get themself or their family on TV. Save it for your local newspaper. I'm not interested in seeing any more stories about families that just had quintuplets making veiled pleas for diapers and a new minivan.
This past year, there was a couple of major local stories. One about the new Dallas Cowboys stadium being built in Arlington, Texas. And it concerned the homeowners that lived in the area that had been annexed for the stadium. There were concerns by some of the property owners were being cheated by the city and not getting paid the actual value of their property.

And another story about an ongoing investigation about Dallas police planting fake evidence to arrest suspected drug dealers.

It kinda upset me that none of the local news broadcasts gave these stories more upfront attention. These were stories of concern to me, because this is where I live.

The grassfires in California are legitimate news, and the bombings in Lebanon is legitimate news, but what I want to see and hear about first at the top of my local news broadcast is stuff that happened where I live. Not buried halfway through the broadcast.

Foolish Mortal
12-26-2006, 10:47 AM
why build up a kids belief just for them to find out later that there is no santa clause

instead teach your children about what christmas really means instead of teaching them about magic man who will bring them toys if there are good

a kid shouldnt need a motivation to be good
he should be good because his parents show him right from wrong
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/5658107a-Santa_jpg.jpg (http://www.slibe.com)

:no:

BaconWhoreSqueeeaaal
12-26-2006, 10:49 AM
You know what? I was in foster care and my family was very poor. Christmas was the one time during the year we actually got anything. Usually my wardrobe consisted of hand me downs, which was rare since I'm so much smaller then the rest of my family, and I didn't have many toys or electronics.

No matter how poor we were, we always had a spectacular Christmas. My foster parents were split up, but between Christmas bonuses and money from my father, the tree was always overflowing with presents.

That's really why I believed in Santa. I was too young to know anything about it. But I knew we were poor. A good portion of our families money went to good schooling, since public schools in southern Louisiana are crappy.

It was the one time of year we could forget about our misfortunes and be thankful that Santa never forgot us.

I love the Santa lie and always will. My children will believe in Santa too. It does give them an extra incentive to be good, but it also keeps them from demanding parents for gifts during Christmas. If Santa an't get it for you, then he couldn't make it. Kept us from being greedy and taking out what we didn't get on our parents.

Shane W
12-26-2006, 10:52 AM
Today my cousin has to explain to her kid why Santa didn't bring the gift he asked for even though he was a really good boy and that's all he asked for.

:lol:


Crushing a kid is fun!

BGPu
12-26-2006, 10:54 AM
This past year, there was a couple of major local stories. One about the new Dallas Cowboys stadium being built in Arlington, Texas. And it concerned the homeowners that lived in the area that had been annexed for the stadium. There were concerns by some of the property owners were being cheated by the city and not getting paid the actual value of their property.

And another story about an ongoing investigation about Dallas police planting fake evidence to arrest suspected drug dealers.

It kinda upset me that none of the local news broadcasts gave these stories more upfront attention. These were stories of concern to me, because this is where I live.

The grassfires in California are legitimate news, and the bombings in Lebanon is legitimate news, but what I want to see and hear about first at the top of my local news broadcast is stuff that happened where I live. Not buried halfway through the broadcast.

Where I live, in Oak Park a suburb just outside Chicago, there has been talk for several years about widening the Eisenhower expressway so that commuters in the far west burbs can cut 10-15 minutes off their drive every day. To do that, the department of transporation would have to displace the homes immediately around the expressway, which would include my family's home and many others. To Oak Park's credit, and I don't give the village much credit for anything much these days, they have tried to explore alternate plans for expanding the expressway. But I've never heard about any of this through the local TV news. Just in the newspapers.

Weren't we talking about Santa Claus though?

Let kids be kids. My girlfriend's son is right on the edge of not believing anymore. In a few years he'll be a grumpy, sullen teenager (somedays he acts like one anyway). Enjoy it while it lasts....

...before life knocks you down, chews you up and spits you the fuck out.

KingMob
12-26-2006, 10:59 AM
Today my cousin has to explain to her kid why Santa didn't bring the gift he asked for even though he was a really good boy and that's all he asked for.

:lol:


Crushing a kid is fun!

http://www.thewilf.com/images/owned.jpg

NickT
12-26-2006, 11:00 AM
why build up a kids belief just for them to find out later that there is no santa clause

Because kids enjoy it?

KingMob
12-26-2006, 11:03 AM
Because kids enjoy it?

I enjoyed the hell out of cocaine about 10 years ago, but it wasnt very good for my long term mental growth.

NickT
12-26-2006, 11:05 AM
I enjoyed the hell out of cocaine about 10 years ago, but it wasnt very good for my long term mental growth.
I would say that's the daftest argument I've heard today, but I was reading a thread about Saddam a minute ago :)

youdontknowme
12-26-2006, 11:10 AM
why cant we just be honest with our children?

if they find out you lied about that dont you think they will believe you less about other things

KingMob
12-26-2006, 11:10 AM
I would say that's the daftest argument I've heard today, but I was reading a thread about Saddam a minute ago :)

daft means cool right?

NickT
12-26-2006, 11:15 AM
why cant we just be honest with our children?

if they find out you lied about that dont you think they will believe you less about other things
No, as I didn't.

youdontknowme
12-26-2006, 11:38 AM
i did

WillieLee
12-26-2006, 11:43 AM
why cant we just be honest with our children?

if they find out you lied about that dont you think they will believe you less about other things

Sure, why not extinguish the wonder and fantasy of childhood to appease young adults?

Adrian B AWESOME
12-26-2006, 11:46 AM
So allowing kids to believe in something, however fleeting, is terrible?

Any child can eventually figure out Santa's not real. Hell, I did by age 5. But it's hardly the point.

WillieLee
12-26-2006, 11:47 AM
So allowing kids to believe in something, however fleeting, is terrible?

Any child can eventually figure out Santa's not real. Hell, I did by age 5. But it's hardly the point.

I think some people are still bitter about finding out the truth.

Donal DeLay
12-26-2006, 11:59 AM
Stop lying to YOUR children. Santa Claus WAS real.

Wikipedia's nicely shortened version of the history:


Santa Claus, St. Nicholas, Father Christmas, Kris Kringle, or simply Santa, is a symbolic gift-giving person, based on the historical Saint Nicholas, who distributes presents to sleeping children and adults who have been "good" all year and coal to those who have been "bad" all year; traditionally during the night of December 24, Christmas Eve. Santa Claus is an eminent character in the hearts and minds of millions of children and adults around the world who believe in him. The popular American form Santa Claus originated as a mispronunciation of Dutch Sinterklaas, which is a contracted form of Sint Nicolaas (Saint Nicholas).

bartleby
12-26-2006, 12:00 PM
Stop lying to YOUR children. Santa Claus WAS real.



He's just dead.

King of Mars
12-26-2006, 12:31 PM
why cant we just be honest with our children?

if they find out you lied about that dont you think they will believe you less about other thingsNo. Parents bullshit their kids about a lot of things. This is a small, harmless lie meant to provide a bit of fun for children around Christmas time. As long as parents are generally honest and don't lie about the important stuff, it shouldn't cause children to lose trust in them.

Jef UK
12-26-2006, 12:48 PM
Most of the country perpetuates the lie of Satan, too.

Jef UK
12-26-2006, 12:49 PM
i did


I did too. I realized God didn't exist that day too. For reals.