The question that inevitably will be asked...

[Mike Haseloff]

... should we expect delays on future issues of Iron Man? And, are you able to comment on what's caused these delays? There seems to be some confusion amongst the fanboy community.


Understandable if you'd rather not.

Loving it, regardless of when I'm gettin' it.
Keep up the good work. :cool:

[Adi Granov]

To my understanding all remaining issues are being solicited to account for the production schedule. I was never meant to do a monthly book, this was a very special case and a whole set of circumstances brought both Warren and I to this project. Warren has stated that he agreed to it in order to work with me, and I jumped at the opportunity to work with him. But as fate would have it the whole thing happened at the time when the whole Avengers relaunch was set in stone. Both Marvel and I had unresonable hopes of me being able to paint 4 pages per week, and that was just never going to happen.

All delays are due to my art. I am not slow from the production standpoint but the fact is that I lay out, draw, paint and color everything in this book, I don't even use flats assistance like most colorists do. A standard comic book page takes, on average, 3 days to do only spread across the whole team, in my case I am the team.

And, please, don't get me wrong, I am not taking the scheduling and the fan complaints for granted. Far from it. But as it stands I have only two very simple choices: try to meet a faster schedule and do a rushed, poor job and ruin the book, or continue to give it my best and finish the book to the standards we had already set.

We're on it for 6 issues and after that I am sure it will all be back on track. But hopefully some of the readers will be happy to have read something out of the ordinary even if it didn't come out every month.

[Mike Haseloff]

Wow, that's really swell of you to answer.

I think, if there had to be a justification for the scheduling meltdown, you've pretty much given anything anyone could ask for.

We're on it for 6 issues and after that I am sure it will all be back on track. But hopefully some of the readers will be happy to have read something out of the ordinary even if it didn't come out every month.I think that's perhaps what makes this situation an easy enough pill to swallow.

Ellis' story has certainly started tugging Iron Man in a direction that's some of the best of both worlds. It's a contemporary, and fairly logical depiction of the master of corporate technology that is, Iron Man, but it's also reasonably traditional. It's really taken the character back to it's roots, which is great.

That being said, what REALLY stands out for me is the choice in artwork.
Like Ellis' story, it's really a pretty logical progression when you boil it all down, but it's incredibly exciting, and fresh. There's something appropriate about seeing an Iron Man rendered in your style.

Can't wait to see the completion of the run!
Cheers!

[AlexMiller]

Wow. Nicely posed question Matt and even better answer Adi. I really have been enjoying the current run on Iron Man and was drawn in because Warren was writing it. I must say I was blown away with the art and immediately jumped on the web to find out what I could about you. I was amazed by how detailed of a process you go through from initial sketch to final page. I can deal with it coming out every few months if this is the level of the art. I'm only bummed you and Ellis are on the book for six issues.

[Mike Haseloff]

Wow. Nicely posed question Matt and even better answer Adi. I really have been enjoying the current run on Iron Man and was drawn in because Warren was writing it. I must say I was blown away with the art and immediately jumped on the web to find out what I could about you. I was amazed by how detailed of a process you go through from initial sketch to final page. I can deal with it coming out every few months if this is the level of the art. I'm only bummed you and Ellis are on the book for six issues.Matt...?!? :mad:

Identity crisis' aside, you do raise another interesting point I'd like to mention.
I've never really been a Warren Ellis fan, in fact, I think this is the first Ellis book I've read. It was the overall package that lured my interest back to Iron Man for the first time since Heroes Reborn in 97.

So, that's a further testament to the artwork.
I really think it's something delightful to see. The wannabe publisher in me is always interested in seeing what artistic combinations and styles can be put together, and finally seeing something almost CGI looking on Iron Man is really a treat. It's a very nice fit.

[JABSEN]

God,Mike.

Guy joins the board a day and you jump down his throat:p

Nah,Well put



and thanks for the answer,Adi

[Mike Haseloff]

God,Mike.

Guy joins the board a day and you jump down his throat:p

Nah,Well put



and thanks for the answer,AdiHey, look, I ask the hard questions.
It's just how it is. I'm like Rich Johnston... if facts were part of his agenda. :D

I'm like some kind of... Thor meets Lois Lane, guy!

I think the simple fact is, it was going to come up sooner or later, and possibly even more than once, so I thought it was best to just come out and say it, as articulately as possible.

And now I'm just making this thread about me, instead of Adi Granov.



I will endeavor to see Iron Man release monthly with the next three issues.
If anyone wants a sketch, let me know.

Thank you. :cool:

[el123chico]

adi, i think i speak for almost everyone here when i say to take your time with the book. it's freakin' gorgeous. wish you could get out a monthly, but really, anything you put your name on we all know we'll get quality stuff.

[the last ronin]

Hey I'm cool with the wait, I mean look at all the people that bitch about Secret War and it's amazing. So is Iron Man.
I can't wait to see the new designs Adi.

[AlexMiller]

Sorry MIKE. It was 2 am and the ole gray matter wasn't functioning properly.

[Randomus]

Good to have an answer set in stone. Not that I was actually concerned in the first place, but this way When Fanboys Attack I can just point them at this in response.

[Pat Loika]

I'll wait a YEAR if I must, to get a book as good as Iron Man. It's a very classy move, for you to answer that question, Adi. And we can see from your work that the time being spent on the book is time used wisely.

Count me in for ANY project you have down the line.

P.

[Adi Granov]

Hey I don't mind the question, I just mind when people won't let it go even when I answer it over and over.

I mean, the book ships way later than originally scheduled and there is a simple answer to it. It's no alien conspiracy, unfortunately, and I have nothing to hide (at least in regards to that...), so it would be silly of me to make weird excuses for something that is essentially very simple. Especially since that very reason is also why a lot of people seem to like the book. Meaning quality, not the lateness.

So yeah, no problems with the questions and I am glad to get it out of the way from the start.

[choisez]

Too bad you and Ellis can't stay around any longer, but it'll look good to have the whole story collected in one of Marvel's hardcovers.

-Eddy

[Mike Haseloff]

Sorry MIKE. It was 2 am and the ole gray matter wasn't functioning properly.Don't worry about it, Alan.

I mean, the book ships way later than originally scheduled and there is a simple answer to it. It's no alien conspiracy, unfortunately, and I have nothing to hide (at least in regards to that...), so it would be silly of me to make weird excuses for something that is essentially very simple. Especially since that very reason is also why a lot of people seem to like the book. Meaning quality, not the lateness.Wait a minute... aliens? OH MY GOD!!!


CONSPIRACY!!!
The truth must be told! :mad:

It's Ellis. ISN'T IT?!

[Niko Zlatintsis]

I think the wait is worth it. What we're getting in this book is a vision uncomparable to anything else out there. To me Adi was the right choice for the book, and even if I have to wait three months or more, I know I'll enjoy the hell out of it when I get in my hands. The last issue is one of the best single issues I own, and this time around not because of the writer (although I love the way Ellis writes it) but because the art is really unique.

So people might complain about the delays, but I want to join the other fans here and actually thank you for making Iron man so special. Keep it up!

[furious_styles]

i just wanted to chime in to say, Adi, take your time. do what you do, because the results are stunningly gorgeous & WELL worth the wait.

thanks.

[Adi Granov]

heh, funny how this thing got quoted all over the place. It got taken from here passed around and made it back to Bendis board within a few hours.

[The Cheap-Arse Film Critic]

heh, funny how this thing got quoted all over the place. It got taken from here passed around and made it back to Bendis board within a few hours.

Again, welcome to Jinxworld.

[Scottie]

So, uh, you don't happen to know who's on the book after you two, eh? And you don't happen to want to share it with your ol' pal Doopspeak, do you?

[Mike Haseloff]

heh, funny how this thing got quoted all over the place. It got taken from here passed around and made it back to Bendis board within a few hours.And I go UNCREDITED by the community en masse.



I will have my revenge. :mad:

[Howlett]

And I go UNCREDITED by the community en masse.



I will have my revenge. :mad:
You're just a wee bit of an angry person, aren't ya? :)

[Mike Haseloff]

You're just a wee bit of an angry person, aren't ya? :)Hey! :mad:

Who's the superstar Marvel young guns artists here that deserves all the press? Exactly!




Oh.

[cburnham]

And I go UNCREDITED by the community en masse.

I will have my revenge. :mad:
I credited you. Now pipe down.

[Mike Haseloff]

I credited you. Now pipe down.It's not enough!

Without me you'd all be nothing. NOTHING!!!
Do you HEAR me?! I control the universe!!!


Aaaahahahahahahhaaaah! :twisted:

[Howlett]

Hey! :mad:

Who's the superstar Marvel young guns artists here that deserves all the press? Exactly!




Oh.
:lol: Oh well, in that case...........................you're just a wee bit of an angry person, aren't ya? :p

[Mike Haseloff]

:lol: Oh well, in that case...........................you're just a wee bit of an angry person, aren't ya? :pBah! It was the fool, Richards, whose calculations were WROOOOOOONG!


:mad:

[Howlett]

Bah! It was the fool, Richards, whose calculations were WROOOOOOONG!


:mad:
Suuuuure it was. Thats right, blame everyone else :roll:

[Mike Haseloff]

Suuuuure it was. Thats right, blame everyone else :roll:It's only paranoia if it's not true.

[joeAR]

It's not enough!

Without me you'd all be nothing. NOTHING!!!
Do you HEAR me?! I control the universe!!!


Aaaahahahahahahhaaaah! :twisted:


The only universe you control is the Spiderman: Chapter One Universe, which explains a lot.

[Mike Haseloff]

The only universe you control is the Spiderman: Chapter One Universe, which explains a lot.Keep pushing it buckeroo, and I'll retcon it so you're only able to post after you've strategically placed magnets all over the city. :mad:

[joeAR]

Keep pushing it buckeroo, and I'll retcon it so you're only able to post after you've strategically placed magnets all over the city. :mad:


Damn, you're more powerful than I thought, i'll get back to you

[ds9]

If the story was not so slow I wouldnt mind the delays but to take so fucking long to read 12 pages of tony stark changing into his armor is bull shit.

[Pat Loika]

If the story was not so slow I wouldnt mind the delays but to take so fucking long to read 12 pages of tony stark changing into his armor is bull shit.

You need to calm down, man. Seriously. If you don't like it, DON'T BUY IT. Simple as that.

P.

[Angel]

If the story was not so slow I wouldnt mind the delays but to take so fucking long to read 12 pages of tony stark changing into his armor is bull shit.
that sounds like a problem on ellis' end and not adi. :mad:

[ds9]

that sounds like a problem on ellis' end and not adi. :mad:Oh it is but the delays dont help.

[Adi Granov]

heh, this is the exact thing I have a problem understanding. If people don't like a comic book why are they so angry about it? It can't be the $3 you wasted, can it? I mean I've blown $9 on movies I ended up hating but I didn't go on line and swore at the creators.

I am sure there are much more pressing matters in life to stress over other than Iron Man. In the end there are hundreds of other books out there, if IM isn't your thing there's loads of other stuff to spend money on.

[Criden]

heh, this is the exact thing I have a problem understanding. If people don't like a comic book why are they so angry about it? It can't be the $3 you wasted, can it? I mean I've blown $9 on movies I ended up hating but I didn't go on line and swore at the creators.

I am sure there are much more pressing matters in life to stress over other than Iron Man. In the end there are hundreds of other books out there, if IM isn't your thing there's loads of other stuff to spend money on.

that sums it up pretty well. i think a video game would be an even easier example, though--$50 and it sucks and you can't return it? that's like 15, maybe 16, comics.

[Mike Haseloff]

that sums it up pretty well. i think a video game would be an even easier example, though--$50 and it sucks and you can't return it? that's like 15, maybe 16, comics.Who honestly wants to waste any money, these days? ESPECIALLY a comic reader, who will generally see himself as the center of the industry, who exists only to be pleased.

To be honest, buyer beware, sure... but I can understand some frustration, especially if it's a favourite character. I mean, I know I still buy comics sometimes based on it being a favourite character. Not everyone has gone the way of stalking particular creators.

I'm not necessarily justifying an artist getting shit online.
It's just one of those things about being in the faux-public domain. You have to take all the good, with a lot of the bad.

[Criden]

i concede, hammer boy, although the truth you speak is a disappointing one, albeit unsurprising.

[chrismarker]

hold on...i'm thinking

[ds9]

heh, this is the exact thing I have a problem understanding. If people don't like a comic book why are they so angry about it? It can't be the $3 you wasted, can it? I mean I've blown $9 on movies I ended up hating but I didn't go on line and swore at the creators.

I am sure there are much more pressing matters in life to stress over other than Iron Man. In the end there are hundreds of other books out there, if IM isn't your thing there's loads of other stuff to spend money on.What you dont get is that if your a fan of the character and want to read stories starring that character and you get slow moving stories about tony at the board room and beautiful panels of tony that takes 3-4 pages to fly out of a building. With very late work. If your a spiderman fan u have plenty of chioces but this book is basically all u get except for New avengers and its Iron man in a group so his face time is minimal. And with the high price of such a book full of delays is not really cool.

[Adi Granov]

Fair enough. Hopefully Ultimate Iron Man and House of M Iron Man can fill in the gaps for you.

As far as the price goes, only the first issue was 32 pages instead of 22 so the price was higher.

I am truly sorry you don't enjoy or recognize the use of story building elements throughout the pages. If you'll notice the story flows with the layouts of the panels as much as it does with what's in them. The hard grid panels are boxing Tony in, strangling him with all his guilt as a weapons designer/dealer. But as he dons the suit the hard grid gives way to the freer, larger panels and looser page layouts to signify the freedom he feels, the release as he feels he's actually able to do some good when he's not Tony. He's a deeply troubled character trying to save himself as much as anything else.

So if the pacing of the story was changed to make it "faster" it would ruin the whole thing completely and destroy anything that Warren is building.

It's like saying that Blade Runner needs more kung fu.

[cburnham]

I am truly sorry you don't enjoy or recognize the use of story building elements throughout the pages. If you'll notice the story flows with the layouts of the panels as much as it does with what's in them. The hard grid panels are boxing Tony in, strangling him with all his guilt as a weapons designer/dealer. But as he dons the suit the hard grid gives way to the freer, larger panels and looser page layouts to signify the freedom he feels, the release as he feels he's actually able to do some good when he's not Tony. He's a deeply troubled character trying to save himself as much as anything else.

So if the pacing of the story was changed to make it "faster" it would ruin the whole thing completely and destroy anything that Warren is building.

It's like saying that Blade Runner needs more kung fu.
I hear both sides of the argument. You are absolutely correct that the story needs to be told as you and Warren feel best, but remember the perspective with which most of us are viewing it--a snails pace. I think once the inevitable hardcover/trade collection of this comes out at the end of the run and we can read it all in one sitting it's going to unfold magnificently in the format in which it was truly meant to be read--a single story with no interruptions.

[Angel]

i think part of the problem many people have with the pacing is that we live in such an instantanious age. we want everything right now, and we have a lack of patience. our food has to be fast, our news has to be fast. we don't want to wait from month to month for the story,so we wait for the trade. you can see that in the increase of sales in trades in the last few years.

this isn't an excuse for a bad story, but we don't give things enough time to flesh out. if you get done with the story and don't like it, that's different.

[ds9]

I think a story suffers when its written to fit a trade instead of writing a good coherent and well paced story every issue. Its good to elaborate a story to a slower build to set a certain tone for the over all tone but it can be done without having every little detail put in to give that flavor. Every issue should feel like a story and not just a little part to make u wait for the next issue because you threw a surprise on the last page. I think its the problem with too many writers like Azzarello on Superman,Bendis on USM,Ellis on Ultimate nightmare,UFF,and Iron man as just some examples.

[chrismarker]

Fair enough. Hopefully Ultimate Iron Man and House of M Iron Man can fill in the gaps for you.

As far as the price goes, only the first issue was 32 pages instead of 22 so the price was higher.

I am truly sorry you don't enjoy or recognize the use of story building elements throughout the pages. If you'll notice the story flows with the layouts of the panels as much as it does with what's in them. The hard grid panels are boxing Tony in, strangling him with all his guilt as a weapons designer/dealer. But as he dons the suit the hard grid gives way to the freer, larger panels and looser page layouts to signify the freedom he feels, the release as he feels he's actually able to do some good when he's not Tony. He's a deeply troubled character trying to save himself as much as anything else.

So if the pacing of the story was changed to make it "faster" it would ruin the whole thing completely and destroy anything that Warren is building.

It's like saying that Blade Runner needs more kung fu.

It's brilliant work: but I worry that it doesn't devolve into a readymade comic book or super hero ending. You mentioned that your work wasn't as "poetic" or humanist(?) as other artists, but I think you've both pulled off an IronMan here worthy of the higest forms of horror: Ellis has revealed Tony as a man on the verge of subtle insanity (no doubt for the reasons you listed) and you've rendered an Ironman whose figure is menacing. What other sense do we get in the full page art revealing the armor?(and, again, Ellis' Stark, who hates himself: who looks at himslef as Ironman looking at himself to see a reflection judigning him for his waste of unlimited power). So, yeah, the ending:Where do you go when you've achieved real horror (the world has made Ironman what it is --Sal's answer to why Tony has made Ironman?: I don't hink you go for the happy ending. I think you stay real: Tony can only delay the inevitable pervasion of Extremis (our own journey to self extinction): We can only delay the horror: Maya should dose: She should:Mayne she helps Tony design new armor, maybe she doesn't: But she should dose and let this epic take its course.

[ds9]

The art is beautiful and I have no complaint on how good it looks. The writing to me is far from brilliant and less than entertaining in individual issues. Writing like this is best for a one shot so that you get a whole story instead of slow paced pieces.

[chrismarker]

The art is beautiful and I have no complaint on how good it looks. The writing to me is far from brilliant and less than entertaining in individual issues. Writing like this is best for a one shot so that you get a whole story instead of slow paced pieces.

Your impatience is a testament to how effective the writing is, and to say that it "is far from brilliant" ignores the nunaces and uncompromising pessimism at work here that makes this IronMan story one to be dreaded...and that is a rare feat considering the medium. Again, I just don't see a positive outcome here: to my mind the only logical conclusion is if Maya dies and Tony is forced to deal with her death and a future where unknown vials of Extremis still circulate around the globe. I do like the idea of Maya taking Extremis though: I think it would be interesting and take the storyline to places unexpected. Marvel's already given us the tease that Tony might have to take Extremis himself and while that might yield some pretty interesting narrative, I think the dynamics of self-hatred that Ellis already has created between Tony and Ironman is enough to deal with.

[ds9]

The thing with Tony feeling guilty has always been a part of his personality. From the very beginning hes felt guilty for the weapons hes created and the lies hes told to hide his alter ego. Other writers have delved into Tony driving hisself to almost insanity because of the guilt he keeps.Check out Armor Wars as an example of Tony going to the extreme because of his work being used by others to kill. Ellis is only rehashing previous ideas but in an updated way like other writers before him. Its wrapped in a nice bow but its not a totally new concept. :disguise:

[chrismarker]

That scene where Tony looks at himself in the mirror and says he hates it when "you look at me like that" -- that's powerful stuff. And not just because of "guilt." It looks like Tony's mirror image stares at him condescendingly, as if saying, "You are pathetic, Tony. Look how you waste our power." Add to that, the brilliant character of Sal, with his ominous drugs are technologies talk and brutal undressing of Tony -- "You've fiddled with medical patents and built yourself a superhero suit" -- and you've got an Ironman comic that comes about as close to reality as you can get. And the fact Tony can't even answer Sal's existential question -- "What's the Ironman for Tony?"-- pushes the psychological conflict well past guilt: Extremis in a sense has proven the futility of Ironman, hasn't it? If drugs are technologies, then what can one man in an Ironsuit really do to save the world?! Nothing. It's like Ellis is making Ironman confront his own obsolecence. Now to me the question is how does Adi transalte all of this (including guilt) into a new Ironman. Since Mallen crushed his armor with his bare hands, we know that Tony has to invent new armor: (didn't Ellis drop this hint when he had Sal say that it would be hard to kill a man in a suit of armor untill someone surpassed its specs -- like Maya!): so, it would seem we're going to see a new Ironman -- or so I thought: I thought Maya would have to help Tony build new armor (after all she's the one that invented Extremis) but now I'm not so sure, given that Adi's IronMan is so spectacular. But if that is the road the story takes, I'd hope the new Ironman would be a figure of horror: not someone people think is "cool," or the "golden avenger," or who's pretty to look at it: It should be scary to look at Ironman: even frightening. Kids should be afraid and adults should feel both dread and complicity for Ironman is something humankind's own evil has made necessary: not just goofy super-hero villians: but plain old ordinary humans whose own technology has -- at least if I'm reading Ellis right -- pushed past any hope of salvation and now leads only and inevitably to self extinction.

[Adi Granov]

Chris, I am so happy that you enjoy it the way you do. I am so glad that you seem to be seeing all of the little things that we do but often wonder if it will translate in printed form as intended. When I read Warren's scripts I get a real sense of subtle but powerful moods and internal struggles of these characters so I try to do it justice by not overexagerating it and spoonfeeding the reader. But then I often wonder if it pans out that way or if it's maybe too subtle.

And to be honest, I have read comments where people were confused by various things like the reflection scene you mention, where they didn't pick up on why he's talking to himself and so on. But I am very, very happy to see that some people really appreciate that kinda stuff. Because I feel that it's that understated tone that really sets the mood and builds up towards a much greater impact once the action happens, like the carnage in issue 2.

[Criden]

chris, i wholeheartedly agree with all of your assessments, though i see the story going in another direction: with the iron man suit's obsolecence quickly approaching, tony will take the extremis dosage himself. let's face it--tony's got a history of addiction, and being iron man is right up there with the alcohol and the ladies. tony, with his all-too-human failings, is going to do whatever it takes to get his fix. the thrill would lessen if everyone could have be their own iron man (after a fashion)...tony's role as the modern knight in shining armor (both figuratively and literally) would vanish. so i see tony taking a hit of extremis in order to figure out how to destroy it...or how to improve on it and keep it for himself....

[chrismarker]

Chris, I am so happy that you enjoy it the way you do. I am so glad that you seem to be seeing all of the little things that we do but often wonder if it will translate in printed form as intended. When I read Warren's scripts I get a real sense of subtle but powerful moods and internal struggles of these characters so I try to do it justice by not overexagerating it and spoonfeeding the reader. But then I often wonder if it pans out that way or if it's maybe too subtle.

And to be honest, I have read comments where people were confused by various things like the reflection scene you mention, where they didn't pick up on why he's talking to himself and so on. But I am very, very happy to see that some people really appreciate that kinda stuff. Because I feel that it's that understated tone that really sets the mood and builds up towards a much greater impact once the action happens, like the carnage in issue 2.

Adi -- pardon me while I thank both of you for creating a masterpiece. I've read Iroman on and off for decades -- through the glory years of Dr. Doom and Camelot, to Tony's paralysis and Rhodey's stints as Ironman (who can forget his cousin 'Chemistro' who turned Ironman into lead!), to some more recent incarnations (none though in the last five years) -- but I never really got into the character because of the whole millionaire/playboy leitmotif. But I saw your cover on issue #2 and decided to pick it up: it blew me away. First, Ironman never even appears in that issue! What a stroke! It's makes all the dialogue and poilitical and psychological situations all the more real. And then, the juxtaposition of Sal's drug/technology analysis (which he delivers in a calm, matter of fact tone) with Mallen's savagery, erupting in that wordless two page spread where he burns crowds of people alive (with his mouth no less!) -- well, it all makes for some pretty affecting violence. Todd Haynes is one of my favorite writer/directors for his mastery of rendering fear from the ordinary. His film "SAFE" is an absolute masterpiece, where horror is rendered from drinking a glass of milk alone in the kitchen, or during the act of idle gardening (I'm serious). So, yeah, I totally agree with you Adi. Hey, do you guys work out the script together, after he writes it? How does your collaboration work?

Thanks!

[chrismarker]

chris, i wholeheartedly agree with all of your assessments, though i see the story going in another direction: with the iron man suit's obsolecence quickly approaching, tony will take the extremis dosage himself. let's face it--tony's got a history of addiction, and being iron man is right up there with the alcohol and the ladies. tony, with his all-too-human failings, is going to do whatever it takes to get his fix. the thrill would lessen if everyone could have be their own iron man (after a fashion)...tony's role as the modern knight in shining armor (both figuratively and literally) would vanish. so i see tony taking a hit of extremis in order to figure out how to destroy it...or how to improve on it and keep it for himself....

Criden, yeah, the tease at Marvel poses the question of whether Tony will have to dose to "cope" with the "product" of Extremis (great language, hunh!). If it does go that way I still hope they bring Maya into it: shouldn't her guilt drive her to something extreme? But I still haven't figured out how IM's going to get out the end-scenario of issue#3. Either Mallen smashes that car with two innocents over IM's head in a crash of blood, burning flesh, and metal that J.G. Ballard would envy, or IM somehow manages to stun Mallen for a moment and escape. Not sure about either scenario. I had the goof-ball thought of Mallen trying to bite through Tony's armor and infect him with Extremis -- can you see that? It could be bizarre if pulled off well -- but I have to confess I'm not sure at all how IM's going to get out of what would otherwise seem like a typical suero-hero cliff-hanger: not with this arc.

[ds9]

is it out yet? :mummy: