HBO has seen the light and is bringing "Preacher" to the small screen. [Archive]

dhsnow

11-28-2006, 09:36 PM

No way. 2nd only to "Y the Last Man", you always hear..."this would make a great HBO Show." Not sure how I feel about the talent involved, but it could make a great show.

HBO hears word, brings 'Preacher' to small screen
By Borys Kit
Nov 29, 2006

HBO has seen the light and is bringing "Preacher" to the small screen.

The pay cable network is developing a one-hour series based on the popular 1990s Vertigo comics series. Mark Steven Johnson, the writer-director behind comic adaptations "Daredevil" and the upcoming "Ghost Rider," is writing the pilot, while Howard Deutch is attached to direct. Johnson and Deutch will executive produce along with Michael De Luca, George Agusto, Chris Bender and JC Spink.

"Preacher," which ran from 1995-2000, told the story of a down-and-out Texas preacher possessed by Genesis, a supernatural entity conceived by the unnatural coupling of an angel and a demon. Given immense powers, the preacher teamed with an old girlfriend and a hard-drinking Irish vampire and set out on a journey across America to find God -- who apparently had abandoned his duties in heaven -- and hold him accountable for his negligence.

The series was created by Irish-born writer Garth Ennis and British artist Steve Dillon, who will serve as co-executive producers. Ken F. Levin, who reps the duo, also will serve as co-exec producer.

The series -- which developed a rabid fan base -- was known for tackling religious and political issues, its dark and violent sense of humor and its observations of American culture. It also was one of the series that helped define Vertigo, the adult-oriented line of comics from DC Comics.
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There have been several attempts to bring the comic to the screen, whether big or small, but nothing stuck. A movie version, to have been produced by Kevin Smith's View Askew, among others, got to the casting stage, with James Marsden attached for the title role and a reported budget of $25 million.

The project reunites Johnson with Deutch; Johnson wrote "Grumpier Old Men," which Deutch directed. Deutch's directing credits include TV's "Gleason," the pilot for "Melrose Place" and the 1986 film "Pretty in Pink." He is repped by ICM.

Johnson is repped by CAA.

Movie Maker

11-28-2006, 09:36 PM

fuck yes?

Simps

11-28-2006, 09:37 PM

Wow, this could be really cool. The casting on the lead will be really important for the success of the show.

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 09:37 PM

Mark Steven Johnson

Fuck no!

Who am I kidding... this is amazing news.

BWC Boston

11-28-2006, 09:38 PM

fuck yes?

Fuck no.

Mark Steven Johnson, the writer-director behind comic adaptations "Daredevil" and the upcoming "Ghost Rider," is writing the pilot,

Pat Shatner

11-28-2006, 09:39 PM

Holy. Shit.

Bill?

11-28-2006, 09:39 PM

yeah, but it it'll probably suck compared to the books. with some things they shouldn't even try.

Joe Henderson

11-28-2006, 09:39 PM

They had me until Mark Steven Johnson. Fuck that. I hope they come to their senses and hire a new writer ASAP or don't make it at all.

Movie Maker

11-28-2006, 09:39 PM

Fuck no.

the directors cut was fantastic.

Vonn Hennigar

11-28-2006, 09:40 PM

This can't be real!!!!

TheKraken

11-28-2006, 09:40 PM

Jesus Hortatio Christ, I have enough reservations about a Preacher adaptation without the guy behind Daredevil making it... :nonono2:

Evan the Shaggy

11-28-2006, 09:40 PM

Fuck yes. God I've been waiting for HBO to adapt a comic into a show for so long, to say nothing of finally seeing Preacher on the screen.

Paddy Considine for Cassidy damn it.

BWC Boston

11-28-2006, 09:40 PM

fuck yes?

Fuck you.

the directors cut was fantastic.

Pat Shatner

11-28-2006, 09:40 PM

Fingers crossed for Robert Carlyle as Cassidy.

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 09:42 PM

To be fair, it's only the pilot. I'm sure he won't pull a Matt Albie and write the entire series.

TheKraken

11-28-2006, 09:44 PM

"I love comics. I love Preacher. I want to show it the respect it deserves. Alright, let's do the scene where Jesse fights God in the playground..."

Vonn Hennigar

11-28-2006, 09:46 PM

John Goodman as Allfather D'Aronique!!!

BWC Boston

11-28-2006, 09:46 PM

To be fair, it's only the pilot. I'm sure he won't pull a Matt Albie and write the entire series.

That's true. And the guy who made crap like CHARMED and ANGEL made THE SHIELD. You never know how it'll be until you see it--and I will definitely see it.

Just saying. Mark Steven Johnson is icky. But this could be the greatest thing he ever wrote, for all I know. I'm sure even Akiva Goldsman has a decent script in him, somewhere.

Brad N.

11-28-2006, 09:48 PM

Oh God, my prayers have been answered. Well, MSJ not withstanding. Please don't let this suck.

dhsnow

11-28-2006, 09:48 PM

They had me until Mark Steven Johnson. Fuck that. I hope they come to their senses and hire a new writer ASAP or don't make it at all.

What I love about Hollywood is that it seems like once you've made a comic book movie, regardless of the quality, you get to make more.

"Well, it's based on a comic book."
"Then just get that guy who directed Daredevil. He speaks comic book."
"But it wasn't that goo.."
"I said get him."

YouStayClassy

11-28-2006, 09:50 PM

What I love about Hollywood is that it seems like once you've made a comic book movie, regardless of the quality, you get to make more.

"Well, it's based on a comic book."
"Then just get that guy who directed Daredevil. He speaks comic book."
"But it wasn't that goo.."
"I said get him."

It's the new typecasting!

That is pretty crazy news though.

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 09:50 PM

That's true. And the guy who made crap like CHARMED made ANGEL and THE SHIELD.

Fixed.

YouStayClassy

11-28-2006, 09:52 PM

Fixed.

Thank you.

Humphrey_Lee

11-28-2006, 09:55 PM

It's the new typecasting!

That is pretty crazy news though.

Like Kevin Smith said, in Hollywood you just tend to fail upwards...

Though, fuck that, I like the DD Director's Cut.

YouStayClassy

11-28-2006, 09:56 PM

Like Kevin Smith said, in Hollywood you just tend to fail upwards...

Though, fuck that, I like the DD Director's Cut.

Yeah, I can live with that movie.

And Ghost Rider isn't out yet, so it's not fair to hold that one against him.

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 10:00 PM

Yeah, I can live with that movie.

And Ghost Rider isn't out yet, so it's not fair to hold that one against him.

You're right. And, in all honesty, Preacher's a real hard story to fuck up.

YouStayClassy

11-28-2006, 10:06 PM

You're right. And, in all honesty, Preacher's a real hard story to fuck up.

Here's hoping.

I can't wait to see the casting results.

Humphrey_Lee

11-28-2006, 10:07 PM

Here's hoping.

I can't wait to see the casting results.

I wanna be Arseface!!!

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 10:08 PM

Here's hoping.

I can't wait to see the casting results.

As long as Jon Heder is cast as Wub, I'll be happy.

Evan the Shaggy

11-28-2006, 10:09 PM

You're right. And, in all honesty, Preacher's a real hard story to fuck up.

Not to say that Preacher will be bad or anything, but I thought the same thing about the Punisher.

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 10:12 PM

Not to say that Preacher will be bad or anything, but I thought the same thing about the Punisher.

Frank's story is grounded in a very certain time, though. Having to justify that he wasn't in Vietnam and it wasn't his family in a mob hit changes the character.

The only thing really beholden to Preacher is that it's set in America and Cass is Irish.

A.Huerta

11-28-2006, 10:18 PM

Fuck no.

:lol:

Simps

11-28-2006, 10:28 PM

Frank's story is grounded in a very certain time, though. Having to justify that he wasn't in Vietnam and it wasn't his family in a mob hit changes the character.
I don't think that's necessarily true, Bendis provided a fantastic moderniztion of the origin in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, and the character stayed essentially the same.

Adrian B AWESOME

11-28-2006, 10:29 PM

I don't know. The only thing I do know is that the Season 2/Season 3 season finale has to end with the ending of "War Under the Sun."

Michael Blacklist

11-28-2006, 10:31 PM

I don't think that's necessarily true, Bendis provided a fantastic moderniztion of the origin in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, and the character stayed essentially the same.

I don't remember that story, but I'll go read it later. I just feel that the Tom Jane version strayed a bit too far.

Evan the Shaggy

11-28-2006, 10:33 PM

I don't know. The only thing I do know is that the Season 2/Season 3 season finale has to end with the ending of "War Under the Sun."

That would make for about the best season finale of any show ever.

Just have it end with Cassidy slumped over, smoke coming off him, saying over and over "He made me do it. He made me do it."

c. page

11-28-2006, 10:46 PM

eh, i'll wait and see how it goes. if ennis and dillon are exec producing, then i can't really imagine they'd let someone fuck it up too bad.

color me cautiously optimistic

BENDIS!

11-28-2006, 11:03 PM

HBO has seen the light and is bringing "Preacher" to the small screen.

The pay cable network is developing a one-hour series based on the popular 1990s Vertigo comics series. Mark Steven Johnson, the writer-director behind comic adaptations "Daredevil" and the upcoming "Ghost Rider," is writing the pilot, while Howard Deutch is attached to direct. Johnson and Deutch will executive produce along with Michael De Luca, George Agusto, Chris Bender and JC Spink.

"Preacher," which ran from 1995-2000, told the story of a down-and-out Texas preacher possessed by Genesis, a supernatural entity conceived by the unnatural coupling of an angel and a demon. Given immense powers, the preacher teamed with an old girlfriend and a hard-drinking Irish vampire and set out on a journey across America to find God -- who apparently had abandoned his duties in heaven -- and hold him accountable for his negligence.

The series was created by Irish-born writer Garth Ennis and British artist Steve Dillon, who will serve as co-executive producers. Ken F. Levin, who reps the duo, also will serve as co-exec producer.

The series -- which developed a rabid fan base -- was known for tackling religious and political issues, its dark and violent sense of humor and its observations of American culture. It also was one of the series that helped define Vertigo, the adult-oriented line of comics from DC Comics.

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There have been several attempts to bring the comic to the screen, whether big or small, but nothing stuck. A movie version, to have been produced by Kevin Smith's View Askew, among others, got to the casting stage, with James Marsden attached for the title role and a reported budget of $25 million.

The project reunites Johnson with Deutch; Johnson wrote "Grumpier Old Men," which Deutch directed. Deutch's directing credits include TV's "Gleason," the pilot for "Melrose Place" and the 1986 film "Pretty in Pink." He is repped by ICM.

Shade

11-28-2006, 11:11 PM

Thank God.

Bedlam66

11-28-2006, 11:35 PM

Dear Satan. Please Don't let this Suck.

(I thought it would be in Bad tast to pray to God knowing his fate in the book :p) Huh Guess that goes for the Devil as well Damn . . . Oh well Just don't let it suck PLEASE SOMEONE ANYONE!!!!!

Adrian B AWESOME

11-28-2006, 11:59 PM

That would make for about the best season finale of any show ever.

Just have it end with Cassidy slumped over, smoke coming off him, saying over and over "He made me do it. He made me do it."

Actually, I'd edit it slightly different, with the Saint of Killers coming out of the nuclear blast and saying my favorite line of the whoole series "Not enough gun."

Brandon191

11-29-2006, 01:30 AM

Awesome!

Need_A_Kiss

11-29-2006, 01:47 AM

Lyfeforce

11-29-2006, 02:45 AM

I applaud this news, but cautiously. Preacher has been my favorite story of any written medium for three years now and I hope the people involved don't mess this up.

Kefky

11-29-2006, 02:52 AM

Wait, wait... Directed by the guy who did daredevil and ghost rider, and written by the guy who did melrose place? Why isn't anyone bitching? :-?

Thomas Mauer

11-29-2006, 03:05 AM

Wait, wait... Directed by the guy who did daredevil and ghost rider, and written by the guy who did melrose place? Why isn't anyone bitching? :-?

Because you've got it backward. :p

Kefky

11-29-2006, 03:13 AM

I'll say that I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I like DD director's cut, but the writer... I dunno... :-?

And I realize that it's an unpopular opinion, but I kinda think it'd work better animated. IMO, the over-the-top stuff would look better, and voice actors would do more justice to Garth's wonderful dialog.

Kefky

11-29-2006, 03:14 AM

Because you've got it backward. :p

No I didn't... Are you one of those people made to confuse my life more than it already is? :mistrust:

Thomas Mauer

11-29-2006, 03:41 AM

No I didn't... Are you one of those people made to confuse my life more than it already is? :mistrust:
Not at all:

Mark Steven Johnson, the writer-director behind comic adaptations "Daredevil" and the upcoming "Ghost Rider," is writing the pilot, while Howard Deutch is attached to direct.

Directed by the guy who did daredevil and ghost rider (MSJ), and written by the guy who did melrose place (Howard Deutch)?
See the difference?

Akira

11-29-2006, 04:00 AM

Bitching and moaning aside, I can't wait to see this show. It might redeem HBO in my eyes after the uncerimonious exit they gave Oz. Casting? It's the longest longshot in the history of longshots but I'm having a hard time imagining any American actor except Eastwood as the Saint. Sure Daniel Craig or Guy Pierce could brush up on their American accents, but giving the role to a non-American just wouldn't seem right.

Kefky

11-29-2006, 04:03 AM

Not at all:

See the difference?

....D'OH! .-.

Patrick King

11-29-2006, 04:28 AM

BriRedfern

11-29-2006, 04:34 AM

yeah, but it it'll probably suck compared to the books. with some things they shouldn't even try.

I only kind of understand the infatuation with bringing comics into other mediums. A lot of succesful comic book properties were great to begin with because the comics medium caters to their strengths or vice versa. The EXACT things that make something a great comic can make it a terrible TV show/movie. Changes will need to be made to make this show work.... And the bitching will commence.... Oh, wait, it already has.

Kefky

11-29-2006, 04:49 AM

I only kind of understand the infatuation with bringing comics into other mediums. A lot of succesful comic book properties were great to begin with because the comics medium caters to their strengths or vice versa. The EXACT things that make something a great comic can make it a terrible TV show/movie. Changes will need to be made to make this show work.... And the bitching will commence.... Oh, wait, it already has.

LESS changes would need to be made if it was animated! :eek:

Just sayin'.... :shifty:

WillieLee

11-29-2006, 05:19 AM

I don`t think Ennis is too pleased with this.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 05:23 AM

Wow....so confused....Preacher, HBO:HAPPY! Daredevil director:SAD!

Apparantly I'm so confused I turned into the Hulk to type that.

Blane

11-29-2006, 05:44 AM

Hmmm.. Well, it'll be interesting to see how closely they follow the source material.

I'm shocked it's even making it to the pilot stage, to be honest.

Thomas Mauer

11-29-2006, 05:46 AM

I don`t think Ennis is too pleased with this.

He's an executive producer. He has some pull on this.

WillieLee

11-29-2006, 05:47 AM

He's an executive producer. He has some pull on this.

Ellis seems to hint on his page that he doesn't.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 05:51 AM

Ellis seems to hint on his page that he doesn't.

link please!

WillieLee

11-29-2006, 05:52 AM

link please!

It's a tricky one, www.warrenellis.com

Flonk

11-29-2006, 05:54 AM

Cautiously optimistic.

Jef UK

11-29-2006, 05:55 AM

Fuck meh. I love the books and can read them any time I want. I don't need a TV show version.

Flonk

11-29-2006, 05:56 AM

I only kind of understand the infatuation with bringing comics into other mediums. A lot of succesful comic book properties were great to begin with because the comics medium caters to their strengths or vice versa. The EXACT things that make something a great comic can make it a terrible TV show/movie. Changes will need to be made to make this show work.... And the bitching will commence.... Oh, wait, it already has.

Yet people love Sin City for some reason.

(I don't. It's the perfect example of what you're talking about)

DAVE

11-29-2006, 05:56 AM

It's a tricky one, www.warrenellis.com

oh that's how you spell it!

DAVE

11-29-2006, 05:59 AM

Warren Ellis Says:
EDIT: I�m not going to reprint what Garth just said.
looks I got to it too late..

Kefky

11-29-2006, 06:09 AM

looks I got to it too late..

Yea, now I wanna know too, damit!! :mad:

DAVE

11-29-2006, 06:10 AM

Fuck meh. I love the books and can read them any time I want. I don't need a TV show version.

Is that enthusiastic indifference?

Kefky

11-29-2006, 06:11 AM

Is that enthusiastic indifference?

I think he's uncounciously asking for sex.

BriRedfern

11-29-2006, 06:12 AM

Yet people love Sin City for some reason.

(I don't. It's the perfect example of what you're talking about)

I enjoyed the experiment, because it was a real attempt to overcome the differences in the medium, but you can only make a movie so static, and the static nature of comics is its greatest asset when used correctly.

Bill?

11-29-2006, 06:13 AM

I only kind of understand the infatuation with bringing comics into other mediums. A lot of succesful comic book properties were great to begin with because the comics medium caters to their strengths or vice versa. The EXACT things that make something a great comic can make it a terrible TV show/movie. Changes will need to be made to make this show work.... And the bitching will commence.... Oh, wait, it already has.

you're right. I really should give the benefit of the doubt to the team that brought us Daredevil and The Whole Ten Yards.

Taki Soma

11-29-2006, 06:17 AM

holy hell

joeAR

11-29-2006, 06:17 AM

:boogie:

vhsiv

11-29-2006, 07:53 AM

Damn. They bailed on Carnivàle and Deadwood and they didn't want to do Watchmen as a miniseries, but Preacher and all of its hot-button issues are supposed to go down better?

Good luck with that. Esp. since Preacher is essentially a combination of the two shows they've already taken off the air.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 08:00 AM

Damn. They bailed on Carniv�le and Deadwood and they didn't want to do Watchmen as a miniseries, but Preacher and all of its hot-button issues are supposed to go down better?

Good luck with that. Esp. since Preacher is essentially a combination of the two shows they've already taken off the air.

I don't think either of those shows were cancelled because their content being too "hot button". Period peices as TV series are often not cost effective, and if the ratings aren't supporting it, they are cancelled. As was stated for the cancellation for both shows, critically acclaimed as they were.
Preacher, taking place now wouldn't have that problem.

Jacob Lyon Goddard

11-29-2006, 08:04 AM

The pay cable network is developing a one-hour series based on the popular 1990s Vertigo comics series. Mark Steven Johnson, the writer-director behind comic adaptations "Daredevil" and the upcoming "Ghost Rider," is writing the pilot, while Howard Deutch is attached to direct. Johnson and Deutch will executive produce along with Michael De Luca, George Agusto, Chris Bender and JC Spink.

"Preacher," which ran from 1995-2000, told the story of a down-and-out Texas preacher possessed by Genesis, a supernatural entity conceived by the unnatural coupling of an angel and a demon. Given immense powers, the preacher teamed with an old girlfriend and a hard-drinking Irish vampire and set out on a journey across America to find God -- who apparently had abandoned his duties in heaven -- and hold him accountable for his negligence.

were they trying to make it sound lame on purpose?

Steve Q

11-29-2006, 08:22 AM

were they trying to make it sound lame on purpose?

While MSJ's involvement doesnt thrill me either, you do realize they described the comic to a tee?

Preacher never really was a high concept book, all in the execution

vhsiv

11-29-2006, 08:30 AM

I don't think either of those shows were cancelled because their content being too "hot button". Period peices as TV series are often not cost effective, and if the ratings aren't supporting it, they are cancelled. As was stated for the cancellation for both shows, critically acclaimed as they were.
Preacher, taking place now wouldn't have that problem.I wasn't thinking about the inherent content of either Carnivale or Deadwood being particularly 'hot-button � rather, Ellis' interrogation of organized religion is. The Religious-Right in fly-over land are going to have a field-day with this. I'm sure that they've already started with their organized, Astroturf letters to the FCC on this one.

But HBO opted against 3rd Seasons for both of the other shows, while Preacher is essentially a combination of both shows, with more violence and MORE irreverant overtones.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 08:35 AM

I wasn't thinking about the inherent content of either Carnivale or Deadwood being particularly 'hot-button � rather, Ellis' interrogation of organized religion is. The Religious-Right in fly-over land are going to have a field-day with this. I'm sure that they've already started with their organized, Astroturf letters to the FCC on this one.

But HBO opted against 3rd Seasons for both of the other shows, while Preacher is essentially a combination of both shows, with more violence and MORE irreverant overtones.

okayyy...
The way that your opinion was that the two problems (it being carnivale and deadwood combined and the controversial themes) together somehow made the Preacher series a bad idea. But just to touch on your points. Who cares if HBO is protested over this? Not HBO. None of the HBO series's are designed to appeal to the Christian Right. Big Love had plenty of protest, as had the Sopranos for it's content. All publicity is good publiciity in this day and age.

dafixer

11-29-2006, 08:36 AM

This is the best news I've heard since the ugly girl I slept with during the 1990 New Year Celebration told me the test came back negative.

Anyone do a "who would you cast" question yet.

Well, I'll do it. Who would you cast in these roles.

For me, it's a damn shame Clint Eastwood is too old, he'd would have been a perfect Saint of Killers.

d.j.

11-29-2006, 08:38 AM

Not sure about some of the behind the scenes people (from the creators of GRUMPIER OLD MEN and PRETTY IN PINK comes... PREACHER!!!), but still... yes. This is how it should be done. Not a movie. Hope this really happens!

jason hissong

11-29-2006, 08:39 AM

Why?

Why, as fans, do we crave this? Why isn't the comic good enough?

DAVE

11-29-2006, 08:41 AM

Why?

Why, as fans, do we crave this? Why isn't the comic good enough?

The comic is good enough. However I am fascinated by the idea of seeing it brought to life. It's the same reason I've enjoyed film adaptations of novels (a couple anyway). Why not? It doesn't in anyway change the source material.

jason hissong

11-29-2006, 08:44 AM

The comic is good enough. However I am fascinated by the idea of seeing it brought to life. It's the same reason I've enjoyed film adaptations of novels (a couple anyway). Why not? It doesn't in anyway change the source material.

No it doesn't. I just don't understanding the clammoring for things like this. I enjoyed the Sin City movie as much as the next guy, but. . . it just doesn't sit right with me.

Creators choose the media with which to produce their art on purpose. If Garth Ennis wanted to write a television series, he would have writtena television series.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 08:46 AM

No it doesn't. I just don't understanding the clammoring for things like this. I enjoyed the Sin City movie as much as the next guy, but. . . it just doesn't sit right with me.

Creators choose the media with which to produce their art on purpose. If Garth Ennis wanted to write a television series, he would have writtena television series.

Sometimes I'm in the mood to read Sin City. Sometimes I think it's awesome to see a live action Marv punching shit. That's all there is to it.

RebootedCorpse

11-29-2006, 08:47 AM

I hope this never fucking happens. It is sure to suck and I will be compelled to watch and it will taint the comic for me.

Blane

11-29-2006, 08:47 AM

The comic is good enough. However I am fascinated by the idea of seeing it brought to life. It's the same reason I've enjoyed film adaptations of novels (a couple anyway). Why not? It doesn't in anyway change the source material.

I didn't know they cancelled Deadwood. Frick. That ruins my day.

Oh, yea. I agree with Dave the Mighty. Making it a show doesn't change the source material at all. And if it's not the same or you don't like it, you still have the thing that you did. That's how I choose to look at it.

Jen Grunwald

11-29-2006, 09:10 AM

Creators choose the media with which to produce their art on purpose. If Garth Ennis wanted to write a television series, he would have writtena television series.

Not necessarily true. I'm sure Garth wanted to do a comic book, but if he DID want to make a TV show, it's A LOT harder to get that done than a comic.

And somehow I doubt this show would be done if Garth really didn't want it to happen.

I just hope he gets enough control over it to keep it from turning to crap.

:rogue:

trevor hale

11-29-2006, 09:16 AM

I thought it was the creator of DEADWOOD who opted out of a fourth season to do the four mini-movies or something.

Did that change and it was just cancelled outright?

And did anyone see what Ellis had on his site before he edited it?

I just hope they hire a strong writing team. The Sopranos and Deadwood writers might need new jobs.

noble

11-29-2006, 09:21 AM

I just punched out a preist in excitement!

This better not suck :mad:

Michael Blacklist

11-29-2006, 09:21 AM

I thought it was the creator of DEADWOOD who opted out of a fourth season to do the four mini-movies or something.

Did that change and it was just cancelled outright?

That hasn't changed. If I remember correctly, DEADWOOD wasn't cancelled... Milch just wanted to focus on new show.

trevor hale

11-29-2006, 09:31 AM

That hasn't changed. If I remember correctly, DEADWOOD wasn't cancelled... Milch just wanted to focus on new show.

That's what I thought, but everyone is talking about how HBO cancelled it in this thread. Thanks for the clarification.

Ben

11-29-2006, 10:00 AM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i171/thedailynow/HBOarseface.jpg

http://community.livejournal.com/thedailynow/11460.html

Meteornotes

11-29-2006, 10:12 AM

I can't wait to see this. I've always felt the only way this story would work outside of comics would be as a HBO show. Preacher is one of my all-time favorite comics, and I think it would make a kickass TV show if done right.

dt

Brian Defferding

11-29-2006, 10:13 AM

I think the books are good enough entertainment, imo.

The Roman Candle

11-29-2006, 10:41 AM

Why?

Why, as fans, do we crave this? Why isn't the comic good enough?

The only way I would crave this would be if it had the name "Daniel Knauf" in place of "Mark Steven Johnson."

To answer your question, the comic is good enough.

But a TV show would also be cool, especially given that we'll never see new comics in the series, so this is basically the only way we can get "new" entertainment out of something we love.

The Roman Candle

11-29-2006, 10:44 AM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i171/thedailynow/HBOarseface.jpg

http://community.livejournal.com/thedailynow/11460.html

I was waiting to see your response. It was as expected.

Boris the Blade

11-29-2006, 10:44 AM

Mark Steven Johnson?! What the fuck! It's a dream project in the works until that name pops up. Even the Daredevil Director's Cut was shitty, though slightly less shitty than the theatrical. Ghost Rider looks absolutely hilarious. Just because he's worked on comics movies doesn't make him right for this. He may know the material, but he's a hack.

jason hissong

11-29-2006, 10:48 AM

I think the books are good enough entertainment, imo.

FINALLY someone who makes sense!

Jef UK

11-29-2006, 10:50 AM

Is that enthusiastic indifference?

Yes.

I think he's uncounciously asking for sex.

And yes.

Three-way!

JABSEN

11-29-2006, 10:51 AM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i171/thedailynow/HBOarseface.jpg

http://community.livejournal.com/thedailynow/11460.htmlheh

The Roman Candle

11-29-2006, 10:52 AM

I think the books are good enough entertainment, imo.

But on tv the titties will be REAL! REAL TITTIES! :o

Brian Defferding

11-29-2006, 10:52 AM

FINALLY someone who makes sense!

:)

I'm not sure if there's anything the small screen (or big screen) can do to enhance the story or make it better. The comic offers everything, and the visuals are so engaging that I don't really have a desire to see a live-action (or even animated, for that matter) adaption.

jason hissong

11-29-2006, 10:54 AM

:)

I'm not sure if there's anything the small screen (or big screen) can do to enhance the story or make it better. The comic offers everything, and the visuals are so engaging that I don't really have a desire to see a live-action (or even animated, for that matter) adaption.

I like you more and more everyday. Not that I ever disliked you.

Brian Defferding

11-29-2006, 10:54 AM

But on tv the titties will be REAL! REAL TITTIES! :o

Titties are nice :shifty:

No. You can't turn me to the dark side. Nope.

The Roman Candle

11-29-2006, 10:54 AM

Brian Defferding

11-29-2006, 10:54 AM

I like you more and more everyday. Not that I ever disliked you.

:D :heart:

Albert

11-29-2006, 11:02 AM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i171/thedailynow/HBOarseface.jpg

http://community.livejournal.com/thedailynow/11460.html

Why do you think it's going to be a miniseries?

Rosdower 3.0

11-29-2006, 11:04 AM

That's true. And the guy who made crap like CHARMED and ANGEL made THE SHIELD. You never know how it'll be until you see it--and I will definitely see it.

Just saying. Mark Steven Johnson is icky. But this could be the greatest thing he ever wrote, for all I know. I'm sure even Akiva Goldsman has a decent script in him, somewhere.

Shawn Ryan wrote for 'Angel' and created 'the Sheild', and according to his imdb.com biography had nothing to do with 'Charmed'.

That being said, I do agree that we never know how good or bad his pilot script is at this point.

Considering 'Preacher' is one of my favorite comics of all time, I'm hoping for good.

This has me so excited that I need to go back and re-read the books!

BriRedfern

11-29-2006, 11:34 AM

The comic is good enough. However I am fascinated by the idea of seeing it brought to life. It's the same reason I've enjoyed film adaptations of novels (a couple anyway). Why not? It doesn't in anyway change the source material.

But it was brought to life.... In a comic book. I understand that is a term of speech, but it is a horrible one for describing movie adaptions of material originally presented in different media or literature.

Preacher was already brought to life - By Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon with some help from Glenn Fabry. They did a good job of it too.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 11:50 AM

But it was brought to life.... In a comic book. I understand that is a term of speech, but it is a horrible one for describing movie adaptions of material originally presented in different media or literature.

Preacher was already brought to life - By Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon with some help from Glenn Fabry. They did a good job of it too.

So you're saying you understand it's a term of speech, but then treating it not as a term of speech?

Ok, sorry, to clarify:
The comic is good enough. However I am fascinated by the idea of seeing it brought to life on a TV screen on an HBO series, possibly on Sunday nights.Or OnDemand. It's the same reason I've enjoyed film adaptations
of novels (a couple anyway). Why not? It doesn't in anyway change the source material.

Is that better?

jason hissong

11-29-2006, 12:12 PM

David I can totally see your point.

DAVE

11-29-2006, 12:13 PM

David I can totally see your point.

Oh I know. I didn't think you're looking for even a debate on if it should be adapted or not. You simply asked the people who do want to see it adapted why they want to. That's why I wanted to see it adapted, which I knew you understood. :)

jason hissong

11-29-2006, 12:15 PM

Oh I know. I didn't think you're looking for even a debate on if it should be adapted or not. You simply asked the people who do want to see it adapted why they want to. That's why I wanted to see it adapted, which I knew you understood. :)

And this is why we are pals despite not agreeing on anything.

changingshades

11-29-2006, 03:00 PM

I...I think I just came a little

WillieLee

11-29-2006, 03:08 PM

Not necessarily true. I'm sure Garth wanted to do a comic book, but if he DID want to make a TV show, it's A LOT harder to get that done than a comic.

And somehow I doubt this show would be done if Garth really didn't want it to happen.

I just hope he gets enough control over it to keep it from turning to crap.

:rogue:

He's listed as a co-executive producer so he should have a major role. Unless they pull some kind of Hollywood shenanigans.

UltimateQuintessa

11-29-2006, 03:12 PM

I read this at work earlier and this just may be the greatest day of my life.

Jen Grunwald

11-29-2006, 03:15 PM

He's listed as a co-executive producer so he should have a major role.

I hope so. I asked him about it, but he's being coy... ;-)

:rogue:

WillieLee

11-29-2006, 03:22 PM

I hope so. I asked him about it, but he's being coy... ;-)

:rogue:

We demand answers!

Jen Grunwald

11-29-2006, 05:06 PM

We demand answers!

I think he's afraid to jinx it!

:rogue:

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner

11-29-2006, 05:08 PM

I hope they don't mess this up.

LenNWallace

11-30-2006, 07:26 AM

It may or may not be old news, and if it is, I'll probably get a bunch of needlessly snarky comments about it, so I'll just say 'Fuck you!' in advance. I did a search and came up empty.

And in case no one else has heard yet...

http://superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=4949HBO is developing a one-hour series based on the popular 1990s Vertigo comics series, Preacher, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Mark Steven Johnson (upcoming Ghost Rider, Daredevil) is writing the pilot, while Howard Deutch is attached to direct. Johnson and Deutch will executive produce along with Michael De Luca, George Agusto, Chris Bender and JC Spink.

Preacher, which ran from 1995-2000, told the story of a down-and-out Texas preacher possessed by Genesis, a supernatural entity conceived by the unnatural coupling of an angel and a demon. Given immense powers, the preacher teamed with an old girlfriend and a hard-drinking Irish vampire and set out on a journey across America to find God -- who apparently had abandoned his duties in heaven -- and hold him accountable for his negligence.

The series was created by Irish-born writer Garth Ennis and British artist Steve Dillon, who will serve as co-executive producers. Ken F. Levin, who represents the duo, also will serve as co-executive producer.

There have been several attempts to bring the comic to the screen, whether big or small, but nothing stuck, says the trade. A movie version, to have been produced by Kevin Smith's View Askew, among others, got to the casting stage, with James Marsden attached.
On first reaction, I'm geeked as living fuck about this. A) Because I loved Preacher. B) Because I never believed it would be that great as just a one, two, or even three-off movie franchise, because there was so much story to cover, it would just never be satisfying.

Then I look at the people involved. Primarilly, Mark Steven Johnson, who was responsable for that Daredevil adaptation that most everyone hated. (I thought it was alright for the most part, for a writer taking his first shot at directing with a decently huge budget, he did an admirable enough job, even if the story was a bit of a turd.)

I'm conflicted.

Pray they don't fuck it up...

JABSEN

11-30-2006, 07:27 AM

This is another thing that you mised in that week...

(was that snarky?)

Jim T.

11-30-2006, 07:28 AM

*insert snarky comment*
:wink:

Garth

11-30-2006, 07:28 AM

Yeah, this is old news. But I enjoyed DD for the most part. So I have some faith in MSJ (although Ghost Rider looks like shit). The one thing he DID do right in DD, is he knew the material. Certain changes were made, but there were MANY nods to the comics. So I am hoping they stay close to the source material.

LenNWallace

11-30-2006, 07:30 AM

This is another thing that you mised in that week...

(was that snarky?)

*insert snarky comment*
:wink:
You've both just assured you will never get head from me... None.

And I give GREAT head.

Jim T.

11-30-2006, 07:31 AM

You've both just assured you will never get head from me... None.

And I give GREAT head.

:)
If only there was a button that would allow me to opt out of that for other posters...

LenNWallace

11-30-2006, 07:34 AM

:)
If only there was a button that would allow me to opt out of that for other posters...

No. For others, head is MANDATORY!

JABSEN

11-30-2006, 07:36 AM

You've both just assured you will never get head from me... None.

And I give GREAT head.aaw, But I wasn't snarky.

Cuckoo

11-30-2006, 01:47 PM

Very Nice!!

WinterRose

11-30-2006, 03:03 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/WinterRose/ARTWORK/Comic%20Characters/FINISHEDART-PreacherMoviePosterSmal.jpg

They couldn't possibly get all the people I wanted for the roles... But that said. Lance Henriksen would STILL make the next best thing to eastwood for the Saint. With the Baldwin that played Jayne Cobb as a 3rd pick.

I'm excited and hopeful. I remember the bang up job they did on Spawn back in the day. So I'm hoping...

Pat Shatner

11-30-2006, 03:10 PM

LenNWallace

11-30-2006, 03:25 PM

WinterRose

11-30-2006, 04:26 PM

I honestly think Ewan McGregor is too....umm..for lack of a better word, lovable to play Cassidy. Sure, the character is charming as all get out, but I want someone a little more rough around the edges for the role.
But this is an HBO show, so I don't see any big names like McGregor being cast.

True enough I suppose... Though I have to say... And I know it's kind of a cliche that I tend to shy away from when it comes to casting people that would be good in everything. And as much as I want Katee Sackhoff in Powers and Battlestar, she would make an awesome Tulip as well.

As for Jesse... Man, that's kind of a tough one. Depp would be grand for the role, but impossible to get unless he's a fan of the book like Pat Stewart is of Transmet.

I've not seen everything McGregor's done. When I did that manip some years ago, I was thinking someone that can do a junkie, looks the part and could act it. The other one I'd hear all the time was Tim Roth. I've not seen Trainspotting, but I hear he did a damn good job as an addict there. And it's not like he couldn't do the accent. But there again is the problem of not being able to afford or get him for the project.

Still... wouldn't it be grand if they managed to get the PERFECT people for the roles? HBO can throw some power and money behind the project for talent if they want to make it a smash success. If they managed to get some A-List talent for this? It will be glorious.

DAVE

12-01-2006, 11:58 AM

COMMENTS from Johnson: from CBR
PREACHER

While we're discussing projects from director Mark Steven Johnson, he's quoted at Sci Fi Wire about HBO's ambitions for the series. "I gave [HBO] the comics, and I said, 'Every issue is an hour,'" Johnson said. "And it's exactly the book. ... I had my meeting yesterday, and ['Preacher' creator] Garth Ennis is on the phone, and we're all in the room, and Garth is like, 'You don't have to be so beholden to the comic.' And I'm like, 'No, no, no. It's got to be like the comic.' So that's what's so brilliant about it. It's just like, HBO, who else would do it but them? Nobody. ... HBO is just like, 'Bring it on.' There was going to be a movie made of Preacher a while ago, and I read the script, and it broke my heart. Because I'm like, 'Oh, it's not a two-hour movie. Preacher's six yearsÑsix dedicated years of the most incredible stuff you've ever seen in your whole life. So I always thought HBO was the only way to do that."

MIKE D

12-01-2006, 12:01 PM

Well, maybe this will be the project that makes me a believer in Mark Steven Johnson. And I like Lance Henrikson as the Saint of Killers. Good solid TV worthy casting, and right for the part.

Brad N.

12-01-2006, 12:46 PM

COMMENTS from Johnson: from CBR
PREACHER

While we're discussing projects from director Mark Steven Johnson, he's quoted at Sci Fi Wire about HBO's ambitions for the series. "I gave [HBO] the comics, and I said, 'Every issue is an hour,'" Johnson said. "And it's exactly the book. ... I had my meeting yesterday, and ['Preacher' creator] Garth Ennis is on the phone, and we're all in the room, and Garth is like, 'You don't have to be so beholden to the comic.' And I'm like, 'No, no, no. It's got to be like the comic.' So that's what's so brilliant about it. It's just like, HBO, who else would do it but them? Nobody. ... HBO is just like, 'Bring it on.' There was going to be a movie made of Preacher a while ago, and I read the script, and it broke my heart. Because I'm like, 'Oh, it's not a two-hour movie. Preacher's six years�six dedicated years of the most incredible stuff you've ever seen in your whole life. So I always thought HBO was the only way to do that."

FUCKING. ROCK. :rock:

Seriously this makes me feel SO much better already. HBO was like "Bring it on." Wow. And to say he sounds excited about it is an understatement. That article made my day, man.

Kefky

12-01-2006, 04:39 PM

Not to sound pessimistic, but I wouldn't get too excited about Mark's statement. He tends to sound really passionate about his comics. And if the "an hour an issue" comment was literal, that honestly worries me. There's no way you can fit 22 pages of a comic-book in an hour of a tv show without putting a lot of made-up filler, or just making things more really, really slow. The former would be bad because even the people who really enjoyed DD director's cut like me would agree that by FAR the worst parts of the movie were the made-up stuff that had nothing to do with the comics. The latter isn't as bad, but still, preacher would work MUCH better moving at a fast pace, like maybe covering two or three issues per episode. I appreciate the fact that he wants to give the show the epic feel that it deserves, but there's no need to pad the thing with fluff all over the place.

Okay, rant over. Still cautiously optimistic about the show. :)

c. page

12-01-2006, 04:44 PM

Kefky

12-01-2006, 04:46 PM

i'd actually agree with this. better to cover a few issues per hour than to stretch anything out. also, to expect a 6 year commitment out of HBO could be problem if we're going right off the bat.

I'd honestly be happy with 3 meaty seasons, specially since the story's a 3-part act anyway. They could even use some space to adapt some of the specials. Although those would work as HBO movies too. :D

UltimateQuintessa

12-01-2006, 04:48 PM

Undertaker is The Saint of all Killers, Glenn Fabry even used him as a base for a cover or two.

c. page

12-01-2006, 04:57 PM

I'd honestly be happy with 3 meaty seasons, specially since the story's a 3-part act anyway. They could even use some space to adapt some of the specials. Although those would work as HBO movies too. :D

saint of killers, yeah. couldn't really see any of the other specials working though.

Caley Tibbittz

12-01-2006, 05:05 PM

Mark Steven Johnson, the writer-director behind comic adaptations "Daredevil" and the upcoming "Ghost Rider," is writing the pilot...Well, this will suck.

Seriously, why not shoot directly from the comic? Ennis and co. got it right the first time...

You Killed Hawkeye

12-01-2006, 05:08 PM

Well, this will suck.

Seriously, why not shoot directly from the comic? Ennis and co. got it right the first time...

Johnson said he intends to do that.

MIKE D

12-01-2006, 06:02 PM

Yannick_B

12-03-2006, 10:17 AM

Well, this will suck.

Seriously, why not shoot directly from the comic? Ennis and co. got it right the first time...

I dont know if it can work. Think about something like what happened to Tulip's dad--I dont know if it can work out of a splashpage panel format.

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:06 AM

I dont know if it can work. Think about something like what happened to Tulip's dad--I dont know if it can work out of a splashpage panel format.

It's stuff like that that makes me think it would've been better as a cartoon.

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:15 AM

Undertaker is The Saint of all Killers, Glenn Fabry even used him as a base for a cover or two.

Wow, I didn't know that...

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:16 AM

Wow, I didn't know that...

I've never heard that before either and I'm the world's biggest Preacher fan.

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:25 AM

I've never heard that before either and I'm the world's biggest Preacher fan.

Makes sense though, I always imagined the Saint as having his voice when he spoke.

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:29 AM

Makes sense though, I always imagined the Saint as having his voice when he spoke.

Well, to be fair The Saint of Killers WAS supposed to be Ennis' vision of Eastwood's Man with No Name so Clint Eastwood's voice is what I always imagined.

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:30 AM

Well, to be fair The Saint of Killers WAS supposed to be Ennis' vision of Eastwood's Man with No Name so Clint Eastwood's voice is what I always imagined.

Probably help if I'd seen any of those.....:Oops:

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:32 AM

Probably help if I'd seen any of those.....:Oops:

Unforgiven? Outlaw Josey Wales?

Vonn Hennigar

12-03-2006, 11:32 AM

I'm positive Garth based the Saint on Clint Eastwood's character in Unforgiven not the Man with no name.

Of course i cant actually remember what Eastwood's name in Unforgiven was at the moment.

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:32 AM

Unforgiven? Outlaw Josey Wales?

Errrrrr............ :shifty:

Um, I've seen every episode of Brisco County Jr. That count for anything?

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:33 AM

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:33 AM

Errrrrr............ :shifty:

Um, I've seen every episode of Brisco County Jr. That count for anything?

Oh, just go start another Scarface thread... :nonono2:

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:34 AM

Oh, just go start another Scarface thread... :nonono2:

Hey! I just LARGELY contributed to that thread, I didn't start it.....

Push it to the limit! (the limit!)

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:37 AM

I'm positive Garth based the Saint on Clint Eastwood's character in Unforgiven not the Man with no name.

Of course i cant actually remember what Eastwood's name in Unforgiven was at the moment.

William 'Bill' Munny

And the characters are very similar. I have read that Garth's love of Unforgiven, Outlaw Josey Wales, and the Man with no name movies are all the main inspiration of Saint of Killers.

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:39 AM

William 'Bill' Munny

And the characters are very similar. I have read that Garth's love of Unforgiven, Outlaw Josey Wales, and the Man with no name movies are all the main inspiration of Saint of Killers.

I think he's the most similar to Munny, though. He was more similar to the other two when he was alive.

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:41 AM

William 'Bill' Munny

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/B5_lennier.jpg

?

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:41 AM

I think he's the most similar to Munny, though. He was more similar to the other two when he was alive.

You are correct...

So Classy, you've never seen Unforgiven? Dude, I am not lying to you when I say this...You MUST see that immediately. Great movie in every way possible.

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:42 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/B5_lennier.jpg

?

William MUNNY, not Mummy you goofball.

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:43 AM

You are correct...

So Classy, you've never seen Unforgiven? Dude, I am not lying to you when I say this...You MUST see that immediately. Great movie in every way possible.

Your recommendation is enough for me. When I take the Da Vinci Code back today, I'll pick it up.

William MUNNY, not Mummy you goofball.
:twisted:

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:43 AM

You are correct...

I always thought Munny was supposed to be what would've happened if the Man with no Name got married and had kids. So when I read the Saint origin mini, I immediately thought of him.

Vonn Hennigar

12-03-2006, 11:45 AM

Yeah, i made the connection that Munny IS the Man With No Name.

It's totally unofficial, hell the movie studios are probably different but fuck it, that's my theory.

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:46 AM

:twisted:

Heh. They were showing that Space Ghost coast to coast ep. with him and Hammil in our CN here the other day. Good stuff.

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:47 AM

I always thought Munny was supposed to be what would've happened if the Man with no Name got married and had kids. So when I read the Saint origin mini, I immediately thought of him.

Same here. I think a lot of people feel that way...

Now, I for one am a bit jealous for YSC. He's never seen Unforgiven. Classy, if you get to see it tonight you have to post what you thought of it, it's been a long time since I've talked to aomeone who just saw it for the first time.

Brad N.

12-03-2006, 11:47 AM

Yeah, i made the connection that Munny IS the Man With No Name.

It's totally unofficial, hell the movie studios are probably different but fuck it, that's my theory.

I concur.

Kefky

12-03-2006, 11:48 AM

Same here. I think a lot of people feel that way...

Now, I for one am a bit jealous for YSC. He's never seen Unforgiven. Classy, if you get to see it tonight you have to post what you thought of it, it's been a long time since I've talked to aomeone who just saw it for the first time.

I get the feeling he's not much of a western fan. Not that it matters since Unforgiven's the western for the people who don't like westerns. :)

YouStayClassy

12-03-2006, 11:50 AM

Heh. They were showing that Space Ghost coast to coast ep. with him and Hammil in our CN here the other day. Good stuff.
I love that one! Hammil drinking out of the pretend cereal bowl is just hilarious. And of course, Corvette Summer Con!

Same here. I think a lot of people feel that way...

Now, I for one am a bit jealous for YSC. He's never seen Unforgiven. Classy, if you get to see it tonight you have to post what you thought of it, it's been a long time since I've talked to aomeone who just saw it for the first time.

Will do. :)

I get the feeling he's not much of a western fan. Not that it matters since Unforgiven's the western for the people who don't like westerns. :)

Yeah, I'm not big on movie westerns at all yet I love comic westerns. Weird, huh?