11-27-06 Heroes

[ClintP]

Anyone wetting their pants from anticipation?

[Ray G.]

Very excited.

[Brad N.]

yup, I'm psyched.

[Deej]

Wow - I'm happy to see this thread already started!! Anyone know if this is the last new one for awhile??? Not sure if I have my info correct.

[Eric Williams]

Quite! :)

[Ambrose Chase]

im excited.......but i BELIEVE this entire episode takes place 6 months in the past.

[The Zevad]

Can't wait. I always did enjoy "flash backs"

[DaveCummings]

You know the Travis is anxiously awaiting the newest episode :D

~Dave

[Brad N.]

Wow - I'm happy to see this thread already started!! Anyone know if this is the last new one for awhile??? Not sure if I have my info correct.

Nope. Next week's is "Fallout" dealing with the aftermath of last week's episode. Then they go on hiatus for the holidays with like every other show IIRC.

[Brad N.]

im excited.......but i BELIEVE this entire episode takes place 6 months in the past.

Yup, that's why it's called "6 Months Ago" :)

Call it the origin episode.

[BURKE]

Goose bumps and erect nipples are a go.

[Deej]

Goose bumps and erect nipples are a go.

*shudders* ;)

[The Zevad]

Oh no! Lunch for t-rex!

[Deej]

Hey...the song that they were first playing in the background at the party Peter's at is fairly new...not a 6 months ago song!!! (I think) If I explain this, can I get a No Prize?

[The Zevad]

Great Scott!

[THWIP!]

Great Scott! I love it.

[JMP]

That guy kinda reminds me of Clark Kent.

And I'm guessing the other "Shady agent" guy has Leech-type powers?

[BURKE]

Damn i love this fucking show.

[Deej]

Great Scott!!! This just totally made the show for me...regardless of whatever happens next.

[Kirblar]

Holy FUCK on the car wreck circumstances.

[Kirblar]

Great Scott!!! This just totally made the show for me...regardless of whatever happens next.

I got home around 920, what happened?

[Deej]

Wow - I'm really enjoying seeing these character's lives 6 months ago.

[The Zevad]

I dreamed it.

Interesting......

[BriRedfern]

nice visuals with the "eclipse" right before the commercial break.

[Deej]

I got home around 920, what happened?

Hiro realized he went back in time 6 months ago and tried calling his friend Ando. Unfortunately, Hiro's 6 month old self was on the other end of the phone. Hiro hangs up, looks at the camera, and does a Doc Brown from Back to the Future "Great Scott!".

[BURKE]

I caught that as well. I was seing the squigly symbol in the first episodes.

[BriRedfern]

Hiro realized he went back in time 6 months ago and tried calling his friend Ando. Unfortunately, Hiro's 6 month old self was on the other end of the phone. Hiro hangs up, looks at the camera, and does a Doc Brown from Back to the Future "Great Scott!".

The saying "Great Scott" has a better comic book pedigree than Doc Brown from Back to the Future...

[Deej]

The saying "Great Scott" has a better comic book pedigree than Doc Brown from Back to the Future...

But it was definitely a reference from Doc Brown from Back to the Future . He did it exactly the same way.

[BURKE]

I was thinking of Rocky Horror.

[Ambrose Chase]

Hiro gots a way with the ladies.

[Ambrose Chase]

Brian Davis = Sylar?

[Daniel K.]

"Go break the internet in half or something." :lol:

[Kirblar]

Brian Davis = Sylar?
Or watch guy steals his powers.

[BriRedfern]

Yikes the Sylar eats brains and absorbs abilities is looking good right about now!! Damn it!!! :-x

[Ray G.]

Brian Davis = Sylar?

Gotta be. I had a feeling from his very first scene.

[Mister Mets]

"Go break the internet in half or something." :lol:
I noticed that too.
I wouldn't be surprised if the writer was familiat with this.

[Deej]

Hiro gots a way with the ladies.

He really is smooth!

[Ray G.]

Did they.....actually make me care about Ali Larter's storyline?

They did. :scared:

[Yorick Brown]

I noticed that too.
I wouldn't be surprised if the writer was familiat with this.

Given Jeph Loeb's involvement, there is no way that was a coincidence.

[The Zevad]

Oh Hiro and Charlie. :cry::cry::cry:

[Deej]

Damn...Charlie got even cuter in that last scene...

[Kirblar]

He can't save charlie :(

[The Zevad]

Damn...Charlie got even cuter in that last scene...

:cry::cry::cry:

[Ambrose Chase]

i know its a long shot, i wish japanese nightcrawler would bamf in and cut this motherfuckers head off......i mean, thats how I'D write it.

[Deej]

mmmmm...brains!

[Deej]

i know its a long shot, i wish japanese nightcrawler would bamf in and cut this motherfuckers head off......i mean, thats how I'D write it.

Cut whose head off? Sylar?

[Ambrose Chase]

yeah....thatd take care of things.

[Deej]

So was Charlie killed by Sylar or was it the brain aneurysm?

[Kirblar]

So was Charlie killed by Sylar or was it the brain aneurysm?

Sylar.

[BURKE]

GOD DAMMIT..............I mean......er i cant fucking wait.

[The Zevad]

So was Charlie killed by Sylar or was it the brain aneurysm?

Nope. Looks like the bastard still took her out. I'd like to know if he "ate" the telekenetics brains or did something else entirley.

[BriRedfern]

So was Charlie killed by Sylar or was it the brain aneurysm?

I think the point is that it doesn't matter, she was dead no matter what.

But I have no idea. Ando's comments were unclear, maybe in his time line he thinks Hiro went back in time to save her from the Brain Anuerysm and we will find out that Hiro saved her from Sylar but could not actually save her from death...

Love this show.

[Ambrose Chase]

Fools.


Cant you see that Sylar is the anyeurism??



And nanites.....he's also nanites.

[Billie]

I was worried that going back would stall the story.I was wrong,we got more revelations in this one and how things all got kickstarted.

This was one of the best issues so far.Nate and Pete were great together in this one.

[InBendiswetrust]

so sylar could have like a bunch of powers now right?

Or am i wrong?

[Deej]

I was worried that going back would stall the story.I was wrong,we got more revelations in this one and how things all got kickstarted.

This was one of the best issues so far.Nate and Pete were great together in this one.

Issues or episodes? :) I agree, I really enjoyed this episode. And Charlie just became one of the cutest girls on TV for me...only to be taken away so quickly... :(

[BriRedfern]

so sylar could have like a bunch of powers now right?

Or am i wrong?


I am totally pissed that you are right. I was SURE he was justa TK, but it seems that definitely may not be the case....

[Deej]

so sylar could have like a bunch of powers now right?

Or am i wrong?

You are right.

[Ray G.]

Best episode yet. Next episode should be great.

[Eric Williams]

Wow...that was awesome! :)
Was this the "fall finale", or are there new episodes in the coming weeks?

[Deej]

Wow...that was awesome! :)
Was this the "fall finale", or are there new episodes in the coming weeks?

1 more new episode before the hiatus.

[BriRedfern]

Wow...that was awesome! :)
Was this the "fall finale", or are there new episodes in the coming weeks?


So crazy that some people don't watch the "Next week on Heroes". I know some people don't like to be spoiled or whatever, but it still amazes me.

There is one new one left before the break.

[Kip K]

I had to go get my son back in bed--what did Sylar do to the supposed TK guy?

[DaveCummings]

Wow...that was awesome! :)
Was this the "fall finale", or are there new episodes in the coming weeks?

Next week is the "Fall finale", hence the whole tagline on the preview being "the final episode of Heroes until the new year"

[Eric Williams]

So crazy that some people don't watch the "Next week on Heroes". I know some people don't like to be spoiled or whatever, but it still amazes me.

There is one new one left before the break.
I was watching it on a Canadian station (Global) and we never get the preview. :(

[Jonny Z]

"Go break the internet in half or something." :lol:

that was hilarious :lol: i figure loeb probably snuck that line into the script

[THWIP!]

Issues or episodes? :) I agree, I really enjoyed this episode. And Charlie just became one of the cutest girls on TV for me...only to be taken away so quickly... :(

I fell in love with her too. :cry: I hope she's back someway somehow.

[Kirblar]

I had to go get my son back in bed--what did Sylar do to the supposed TK guy?
Killed him, then showed up at the Doc's sporting his shiny new TK.

[The Zevad]

so sylar could have like a bunch of powers now right?

Or am i wrong?

That's the implication. I think Sylar's gift is seeing things that are broken and "fixing" them. Like knowing the professor's watch was off. I'd like to know what the hell he did. I don't really think he ate the dude's brain. Or did he? How does he leech people's powers? What does he do/take from their brains? And great. Fall Finale next week. Got to hold out till 2007!!!! FUCK!

[Deej]

So crazy that some people don't watch the "Next week on Heroes". I know some people don't like to be spoiled or whatever, but it still amazes me.

There is one new one left before the break.

Looks like he has a very good excuse.

[Kip K]

Great insight into why Sylar is killing everyone--his inferiority complex/need to be special is a very reasonable explanation.

[Kirblar]

Sylar at this point should have:

TK, incredible learning and memory, and the ability to freeze stuff.

Any other victims whose powers we know about?

[Deej]

That's the implication. I think Sylar's gift is seeing things that are broken and "fixing" them. Like knowing the professor's watch was off. I'd like to know what the hell he did. I don't really think he ate the dude's brain. Or did he? How does he leech people's powers? What does he do/take from their brains? And great. Fall Finale next week. Got to hold out till 2007!!!! FUCK!

I can't imagine he eats the brain...because that really doesn't give him much time to act. He killed Charlie and it was a few seconds later that she was discovered, right?

[Jonny Z]

the only thing i didn't follow in this episode is hiro's powers...

so he is fine freezing time but he's still having trouble transporting back and forth?

when he jumped to present day japan (when the employees were doing calisthenics on the roof) did he then teleport to somewhere in texas and take a bus to odessa because his teleportation powers are still not so hot? how did he even end up teleporting if he was having so much trouble while on that roof in japan? i'm just a little confused with how they are presenting hiro's powers.

[Deej]

Sylar should, at this point should have:

TK, incredible learning and memory, and the ability to freeze stuff.

Any other victims whose powers we know about?

Think there was a reason he went to kill that little girl that was under protective custody, other than she might have seen him?

[Billie]

I really enjoyed the Petrelli story in this one.Nathan on the brink of testifying against his father,gets is wife paralyzed in a car accident and finds out their dad dies of a heartattack the morning of the hearing or whatever.Man that was rough.

I'm loving their rel'p though,they got real chemisrty.

[Deej]

the only thing i didn't follow in this episode is hiro's powers...

so he is fine freezing time but he's still having trouble transporting back and forth?

when he jumped to present day japan (when the employees were doing calisthenics on the roof) did he then teleport to somewhere in texas and take a bus to odessa because his teleportation powers are still not so hot? how did he even end up teleporting if he was having so much trouble while on that roof in japan? i'm just a little confused with how they are presenting hiro's powers.


I assumed he traveled back to the US by plane and then bus.

[Billie]

I think it's about time Hiro's powers were given some sort of limit or roadblock.Up to this point,he's been able to fully depend in his powers every time,and they work.

[BriRedfern]

the only thing i didn't follow in this episode is hiro's powers...

so he is fine freezing time but he's still having trouble transporting back and forth?

when he jumped to present day japan (when the employees were doing calisthenics on the roof) did he then teleport to somewhere in texas and take a bus to odessa because his teleportation powers are still not so hot? how did he even end up teleporting if he was having so much trouble while on that roof in japan? i'm just a little confused with how they are presenting hiro's powers.

There is a greater power behind his power that sets limitations on what he can do. This power sent him to Japan so he could not change the past. Or at least not one aspect of the past. GOds and what not are fickle.

[The Zevad]

I think it's about time Hiro's powers were given some sort of limit or roadblock.Up to this point,he's been able to fully depend in his powers every time,and they work.

I think he does have limits.Maybe he just burned himself up a bit. He did so much stuff to prove to Charlie he's a paranormal. So maybe Hiro needs to rest up. Makes sense. So we know he has limits. Now he has to rest up and charge. As for his block. I think something is blocking him. He couldn't stop Jessica from massacring those poker players. Something/Someone is stopping him. Maybe himself. Hmmmmm......

So who do yall think Buys it in the Fall Finale? Can't be Peter or Hiro. They are sure to live. So that means the cop, Nathan, Claire, Issac, Nikki/Jessica, and her baby daddy are up for grabs. Fall Finale is gonna be GREAT!

[Jonny Z]

There is a greater power behind his power that sets limitations on what he can do. This power sent him to Japan so he could not change the past. Or at least not one aspect of the past. GOds and what not are fickle.

that doesn't fit the rest of the themes and story though... at least not what's been presented so far. evolution does not involve god, or any sort of greater power. the whole point is that science/evolution have facts to back them up, while god is make believe.

[BriRedfern]

that doesn't fit the rest of the themes and story though... at least not what's been presented so far. evolution does not involve god, or any sort of greater power. the whole point is that science/evolution have facts to back them up, while god is make believe.


Hiro said what he said, and lets not forget that this show is completely ripped of from Rising Stars and those powers had some loosely defined "higher power" steering them....

[The Zevad]

Hiro said what he said, and lets not forget that this show is completely ripped of from Rising Stars and those powers had some loosely defined "higher power" steering them....

And rising stars big ole light in the sky reeks of the New Universe's White Event which probably ripped off something else. I like the show. Don't care if it is a rift of a rift of a rift.

[BriRedfern]

And rising stars big ole light in the sky reeks of the New Universe's White Event which probably ripped off something else. I like the show. Don't care if it is a rift of a rift of a rift.

Don't get me wrong, if your going to rip something off it might as well be Rising Stars. I'm not dogging the show at all.

[The Zevad]

Don't get me wrong, if your going to rip something off it might as well be Rising Stars. I'm not dogging the show at all.

Which is a rip of the New Universe. Not saying you were dogging the show. Just was pointing out everything is a rip off something else if you really dig into it. Peace Dawg. :-)

[Brad N.]

Great Episode. Just a pain my wife will have to either miss the first 20 minutes or wait until Friday's replay since the DVR went haywire. Damn it.

[DeluxeVoltron]

i dont see any god evident in the show. i think hiro is suffering a mental block after not being able to save charlie. what good are his powers if he cant save the girl he loves?

and sylar is totally an illithid. what powers do you think he still needs? i think with claire's regeneration and radioactive mans hotness he should have everything he needs to create and survive a nucular blast

[Deej]

Great Episode. Just a pain my wife will have to either miss the first 20 minutes or wait until Friday's replay since the DVR went haywire. Damn it.


Doesn't ITunes have the full episode?? Or even go to the NBC website.

[BriRedfern]

i dont see any god evident in the show. i think hiro is suffering a mental block after not being able to save charlie. what good are his powers if he cant save the girl he loves?

and sylar is totally an illithid. what powers do you think he still needs? i think with claire's regeneration and radioactive mans hotness he should have everything he needs to create and survive a nucular blast

His power STOPPED him from saving Charlie. Thats the point. It didn't disappear after he failed to save her, it actively prevented him from saving her by sending him tooo Japan and not letting him get back...

[DeluxeVoltron]

His power STOPPED him from saving Charlie. Thats the point. It didn't disappear after he failed to save her, it actively prevented him from saving her by sending him tooo Japan and not letting him get back...

i guess thats possible. i just think if the show sticks to classic comic themes then a subconscious wracked with guilt and sadness explains it better than sentient powers. either way the lads broken. maybe sylar can 'fix' him.

[gibbEy]

love this show. love it. I was worried about a "flashback" episode, but it really delivered.....I just hate waiting for the next one now. :)

[BriRedfern]

i guess thats possible. i just think if the show sticks to classic comic themes then a subconscious wracked with guilt and sadness explains it better than sentient powers. either way the lads broken. maybe sylar can 'fix' him.

But what was he guilty about BEFORE he failed to save her? If anything he must have been euphoric when she told him she loved him. I'm sure he was upset about the anuerysm, but certainly not guilty...

[Foolish Mortal]

"Go break the internet in half or something." :lol:
:lol: That was awesome. Glad others noticed.


that doesn't fit the rest of the themes and story though... at least not what's been presented so far. evolution does not involve god, or any sort of greater power. the whole point is that science/evolution have facts to back them up, while god is make believe.
Well you don't have to call it 'God'. But there could be a superior power out there that's making the "rules" about who can do what and how. Hell, it could be aliens.

[BriRedfern]

Well you don't have to call it 'God'. But there could be a superior power out there that's making the "rules" about who can do what and how. Hell, it could be aliens.


Thats what I'm saying. Though obviously not too successfully...


There is a greater power behind his power that sets limitations on what he can do. This power sent him to Japan so he could not change the past. Or at least not one aspect of the past. Gods and what not are fickle.

I shouldn't have even used the word "gods" because thats not really what I was getting at. Just some "power" within the powers.

[BriRedfern]

Hiro - "I couldn't Save Charlie"
Ando - "So try again"
Hiro - "It won't work. This power... Its bigger than me. I can't change the past. No matter how hard I wish."

:blah:

[Billie]

Gotta love Scissor Sisters playing during Pete's party. :D

[Alex K.]

That's the implication. I think Sylar's gift is seeing things that are broken and "fixing" them. Like knowing the professor's watch was off. I'd like to know what the hell he did. I don't really think he ate the dude's brain. Or did he? How does he leech people's powers? What does he do/take from their brains? And great. Fall Finale next week. Got to hold out till 2007!!!! FUCK!

My idea is this: The human brain as we know it is "broken", ie. we only use a small percentage of it, and if we were to "fix" certain parts of it, we could develop special abilities and powers. Sylar is able to take a special person's brain, see the part that gives them their ability, and then fix that part of his own brain therefore giving him that ability.

[Brad N.]

My idea is this: The human brain as we know it is "broken", ie. we only use a small percentage of it, and if we were to "fix" certain parts of it, we could develop special abilities and powers. Sylar is able to take a special person's brain, see the part that gives them their ability, and then fix that part of his own brain therefore giving him that ability.

Given all the attention paid to him doing just that with the watches you might be on to something there. I used to think he could eat their brains and absorb their power but that sounds stupid compared to what you're saying. I'm leaning towards this.

[The Zevad]

My idea is this: The human brain as we know it is "broken", ie. we only use a small percentage of it, and if we were to "fix" certain parts of it, we could develop special abilities and powers. Sylar is able to take a special person's brain, see the part that gives them their ability, and then fix that part of his own brain therefore giving him that ability.

I was starting to theorize along those lines. Maybe his ability to fix things isn't just limited to watches. Maybe he can shift his own organs/dna to "fix" it. Which would explain why he's slicing off people's skull caps. To look at their brains and see how they are and than rearange his own brain to fit the patterns.

[BriRedfern]

Anyone reading the web comics? I assume so with this crowd. I really enjoy them. They add just a bit of depth, but they are always worth the time to check out.

[The Goddamn Schweitz!]

I honestly thought Charlies fate was one of the saddest things ever. Which is weird because it wasn't like we got all that attached to her. And man, Hiro is the fucking man. I love that character.

[Patton]

:lol: That was awesome. Glad others noticed.


I can't believe more people didn't flip over that. I mean, wasn't Bendis the first person to say that? I figured the board would be all abuzz over it.

[Patton]

My idea is this: The human brain as we know it is "broken", ie. we only use a small percentage of it, and if we were to "fix" certain parts of it, we could develop special abilities and powers. Sylar is able to take a special person's brain, see the part that gives them their ability, and then fix that part of his own brain therefore giving him that ability.

This is what I was thinking.

[A.Huerta]

His power STOPPED him from saving Charlie. Thats the point. It didn't disappear after he failed to save her, it actively prevented him from saving her by sending him tooo Japan and not letting him get back...

She was going to die anyway. I think the point is there are somethings you just can't fix.

[emeraldsundae]

I love Hiro.

I hate when he's sad.

[Ryan F]

I can't believe more people didn't flip over that. I mean, wasn't Bendis the first person to say that? I figured the board would be all abuzz over it.

I think it way Joey Q, but he was talking about a Bendis story. I loved the reference. :)

I'm not even sure it's Loeb; there are probably a few fanboys on the Heroes staff.

Good episode. I don't love all the characters, but Hiro is the best thing on network television this year.

[J. R. Scherer]

Yikes the Sylar eats brains and absorbs abilities is looking good right about now!! Damn it!!! :-x

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/Mog_Elffoe/ZING/nelson-1.gif


I fuckin' told you! :lol:

[A.Huerta]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/Mog_Elffoe/ZING/nelson-1.gif


I fuckin' told you! :lol:

I thought it was obvious. What else could he be doing with them, Ebay?

[Patton]

I thought it was obvious. What else could he be doing with them, Ebay?

I really really doubt he's eating them. A lot of people here seriously think that? I thought that was a joke.

[A.Huerta]

I dont think he's eating them. He's just getting their powers somehow.

[J. R. Scherer]

His power STOPPED him from saving Charlie. Thats the point. It didn't disappear after he failed to save her, it actively prevented him from saving her by sending him tooo Japan and not letting him get back...

I don't know if it's his actual power, per se, or just the nature of how time travel works in the Heroes universe, but it's clear that while he can go back in time it appears that he also can't do anything that would change the present/future. Does this mean that New York is doomed to be nuked then?

[J. R. Scherer]

I thought it was obvious. What else could he be doing with them, Ebay?

The argument earlier was that Sylar only had telekinesis and no other powers, while folks like myself (and you, too, apparently) figured that Sylar was killing people to take their brains and gain new powers.



I really really doubt he's eating them. A lot of people here seriously think that? I thought that was a joke.

Doesn't matter much, really. He takes super-people's brains and gains their powers from them somehow. That's what we were all getting at. The eating or studying brains part really isn't important, just that Sylar has multiple super abilities.

[Kirblar]

It's likely that Hiro can't change the past himself, but has to act through others.

[ClintP]

"Go break the internet in half or something." :lol:

That was my favorite part of the episode! Now all we need is a "Not like this! Not like this!":)

[Titus211]

All of the Sylar stuff has me thinking that the whole "Save the cheerleader, save the world" has less to do with keeping Claire alive than it does with preventing Sylar from gaining her regenerative abilities.

The guy's nearly unstoppable now...can you imagine if he was unable to die?!?

[J. R. Scherer]

All of the Sylar stuff has me thinking that the whole "Save the cheerleader, save the world" has less to do with keeping Claire alive than it does with preventing Sylar from gaining her regenerative abilities.

The guy's nearly unstoppable now...can you imagine if he was unable to die?!?

Yep, that's been my theory ever since they showed the crime scenes of his killings.

[Generic Poster]

I don't understand why Sylar was able to walk away from the fight with Peter unbroken, but Peter wasn't. Shouldn't he have had all Sylar's abilities?

[Kip K]

Although he may have had Sylar's TK to cushion the fall, he probably didn't know it or know how to use it.

[ClintP]

I don't understand why Sylar was able to walk away from the fight with Peter unbroken, but Peter wasn't. Shouldn't he have had all Sylar's abilities?
I am guessing Sylar used some last minute force field. As for Peter, he probably doesn't know how to use other ppl's stuff as he gets it. He could heal since that is something he can't really controll. But a force field he would have to make that happen.

I would guess as he learns other ppl's powers and their limits, he could call on them as he gets them.

[Patton]

Remind me what other powers Sylar has exhibited. I remember he froze someone on the pilot. At least I think so. Anything else?

[xyzzy]

I don't understand why Sylar was able to walk away from the fight with Peter unbroken, but Peter wasn't. Shouldn't he have had all Sylar's abilities?

As others have said, using TK is active and Peter probably didn't have time to figure it out.

Another possibility is that, however Sylar is using the stolen powers isn't somethign that Peter can copy. Maybe all he's got is Sylar's understanding of broken/fixing things.

[xyzzy]

that doesn't fit the rest of the themes and story though... at least not what's been presented so far. evolution does not involve god, or any sort of greater power. the whole point is that science/evolution have facts to back them up, while god is make believe.

The way that everybody's paths keep intersecting, it stretches credulity that there isn't some greater plan/force/whatever at work.

[Patton]

I wasn't paying all that close attention. Did Nikkica kill her dad?

[Generic Poster]

Although he may have had Sylar's TK to cushion the fall, he probably didn't know it or know how to use it.

I assumed Sylar had some sort of enhanced durability based on his getting shot a bunch of times and getting up from it. I guess the consensus is that Sylar took the shots because of some sort of force field, TK, or other "active" power?

[Race]

I just want to know if he eats grey matter or not - that's all I need to know.

The rest I can figure out or don't care about.

[Foolish Mortal]

I wasn't paying all that close attention. Did Nikkica kill her dad?
No. She threatened kill him if he ever came back, and then she left.

[DrMachine]

As others have said, using TK is active and Peter probably didn't have time to figure it out.

Another possibility is that, however Sylar is using the stolen powers isn't somethign that Peter can copy. Maybe all he's got is Sylar's understanding of broken/fixing things.

I'm fairly certain that Peter has to touch people to gain their abilities.

was the "break the internet in half" line brought up yet?

:lol:

[glk]

was the "break the internet in half" line brought up yet?

:lol:

I loved that!

[Patrick King]

Remind me what other powers Sylar has exhibited. I remember he froze someone on the pilot. At least I think so. Anything else?
He also recovered from multiple gunshot wounds within a matter of seconds, jumped really high and climbed a wall.

As for the rest of tonight's ep, the scene where Charley told Hiro she was dying made me tear up a little bit, that was so sad. Apparently Parkman's wife cheating on him happened during the six months, since she was thoroughly in love with him tonight, "you're my hero" and all. Also, did anyone else do a double-take when it first showed Sylar thinking it was Brandon Routh? It kinda looked like him, especially with the glasses.

[J. R. Scherer]

I don't understand why Sylar was able to walk away from the fight with Peter unbroken, but Peter wasn't. Shouldn't he have had all Sylar's abilities?

I thought that he landed on Peter and that Peter had absorbed the brunt of the fall. He did limp away afterwards so I don't think that Sylar is invulnerable or anything like that. It'll be interesting to see what it was he did when it looked like he got shot all those times earlier.

[J. R. Scherer]

As others have said, using TK is active and Peter probably didn't have time to figure it out.

Another possibility is that, however Sylar is using the stolen powers isn't somethign that Peter can copy. Maybe all he's got is Sylar's understanding of broken/fixing things.

Looks like Peter keeps the powers for a while as well considering how he had visions in his sleep after meeting Isaac. It might be that he'll exhibit some of Sylar's abilities in the next episode. Perhaps that's how he'll get out of jail/HRG's clutches.

[twigglet]

Looks like Peter keeps the powers for a while as well considering how he had visions in his sleep after meeting Isaac. It might be that he'll exhibit some of Sylar's abilities in the next episode. Perhaps that's how he'll get out of jail/HRG's clutches.

Wasn't he seeing visions in his sleep, before he met Isaac?

[J. R. Scherer]

Wasn't he seeing visions in his sleep, before he met Isaac?

I think Peter was getting the visions from Isaac when he was around what-her-name--Isaac's agent.

[Ben Weldon]

The "Go break the Internet in half" line made me laff out loud.:)

[BriRedfern]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/Mog_Elffoe/ZING/nelson-1.gif


I fuckin' told you! :lol:

You clearly did. Now stop being a sore winner or I'll eat your brain and turn myself into a giant mythological lizard and molt on you.

[Keith P.]

Last nights episode was awesome.

I don't want to ever see "Future Hiro". \


Nerdy Hiro is too good. And yeah, its pretty obvious that some outside force is involved. Too many wierd coincidences. Its a big world. I mean what are the chances that things like Matt pulling over Eden are going to occur without intervention?

I was under the impression however, that Charlie wound up dying from the tumor instead of Sylar. That Hiro couldn't change her dying, but he was able to change HOW it happened. That basically, she was "fated" to die regardless.

I also think that its most likely that Sylar doesn't physically "eat" other peoples brains. His power is "to know how things work" and once he examines a persons brain, he knows how to duplicate their abilities. Once he meets the TK guy he basically says as much when he makes the remark about "I see it now, it is in the brain."

And I always liked Nikki, but I think after tonight, she got a whole lot more interesting.

[BriRedfern]

I was under the impression however, that Charlie wound up dying from the tumor instead of Sylar. That Hiro couldn't change her dying, but he was able to change HOW it happened. That basically, she was "fated" to die regardless.



I thought this might be the case at first, but in the epilogue of the episode they bshow Charlie dying again with blood and all while Mohinder is ays "the past is set in stone" or some such, so now I'm not so sure...

[adamgreenberger]

Someone hit me with some full spoilers...I won't be able to watch the show for a few days.

[artimoff]

Someone hit me with some full spoilers...I won't be able to watch the show for a few days.


http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes

[Generic Poster]

I thought that he landed on Peter and that Peter had absorbed the brunt of the fall. He did limp away afterwards so I don't think that Sylar is invulnerable or anything like that. It'll be interesting to see what it was he did when it looked like he got shot all those times earlier.

Yeah - that's a good point - I think Peter did take most of the impact.

[J. R. Scherer]

You clearly did. Now stop being a sore winner or I'll eat your brain and turn myself into a giant mythological lizard and molt on you.

Ah HA HA HA!!!

In your face, BriRedfern! In your face!!

[J. R. Scherer]

Yeah - that's a good point - I think Peter did take most of the impact.

Hmm... Maybe Sylar was just smart enough to wear a bulletproof vest when he tried to kill the girl that was under police protective custody?

[Brad N.]

Looks like Peter keeps the powers for a while as well considering how he had visions in his sleep after meeting Isaac. It might be that he'll exhibit some of Sylar's abilities in the next episode. Perhaps that's how he'll get out of jail/HRG's clutches.

I think the cop (Parkman) may have something to do with that since he FINALLY will meet someone else from the cast. Parkman gets brought in to question Peter I believe.

[Yannick_B]

Yeah - that's a good point - I think Peter did take most of the impact.

He had almost all of his lower-half bented and twisted.

[Nick_Ardill]

He also recovered from multiple gunshot wounds within a matter of seconds, jumped really high and climbed a wall.

As for the rest of tonight's ep, the scene where Charley told Hiro she was dying made me tear up a little bit, that was so sad. Apparently Parkman's wife cheating on him happened during the six months, since she was thoroughly in love with him tonight, "you're my hero" and all. Also, did anyone else do a double-take when it first showed Sylar thinking it was Brandon Routh? It kinda looked like him, especially with the glasses.
My wife made that comment and shes not that much of a comic/superhero fan.

[JoeE]

I caught the Routh thing as well...I almost wonder if it was intentional, put a spin on the mythos by making the villain have the appearance of the most identifiable superhero.

[J. R. Scherer]

I think the cop (Parkman) may have something to do with that since he FINALLY will meet someone else from the cast. Parkman gets brought in to question Peter I believe.

That would be very cool.

[JoeE]

Yeah, they'd be reading each other's mind with his Peter's mimicry...there's a great scene waiting to happen.

[ClintP]

Did anyone see the commercial/preview where they said a hero will die? Who are we wanting dead? I personally could live without the cop. He seems to be a puss. I am glad he at least hit that cop who fucked his wife.

[Keith P.]

Isaac kind of bores me. And we have actually seen him dead on Hiros trip to the future.

I'm wondering if Jessica is simply an alternate personality, and if Nikki has simply repressed those memories and and lets them come to the surface as Jessica, or if its something more sinister like some kind of possession.

[ClintP]

Isaac kind of bores me. And we have actually seen him dead on Hiros trip to the future.

I'm wondering if Jessica is simply an alternate personality, and if Nikki has simply repressed those memories and and lets them come to the surface as Jessica, or if its something more sinister like some kind of possession.
Yeah, Isaac can go to...

I am still wondering about Jessica as well. Maybe I could understand her better if she had acid face or something. I still don't know what to make out of her. I do know she is a biatch though. Her husband seems to be a real decent guy, esp if you read the online comic. She set him up to take the fall for nothing that i can see so far.

[A.Huerta]

No we're hating Isaac? lol

I bet when they explore his background more people will like him too.

[Greenville 90210]

The best episode so far.

It made me care about Nikki/Jessica. Although I still think the best thing she could do is die.

[artimoff]

Did anyone see the commercial/preview where they said a hero will die? Who are we wanting dead? I personally could live without the cop. He seems to be a puss. I am glad he at least hit that cop who fucked his wife.


Matt (the cop) is my favorite character on the show. I think he'll be on the show for a while.

[A.Huerta]

The commercials I'm seeing, it says "A hero will be lost". That doesnt sound like death to me.

[Kirblar]

Jessica definately seems to be the only one of the personalities with powers. Possession seems to be the simplest explanation at this point.

[Brad N.]

Jessica definately seems to be the only one of the personalities with powers. Possession seems to be the simplest explanation at this point.

I would say it's more like The Hulk. Jessica (Hulk) is locked inside Nikki (Banner) and it's not a possession thing anymore than Hulk is possessing Banner.

[Kirblar]

I would say it's more like The Hulk. Jessica (Hulk) is locked inside Nikki (Banner) and it's not a possession thing anymore than Hulk is possessing Banner.
Yeah, but the Hulk wasn't a dead sibling.

[Brad N.]

The commercials I'm seeing, it says "A hero will be lost". That doesnt sound like death to me.


I thought it said "A Hero will Fall". Either way it could easily not mean death. Although I think it does.

The title of the episode is Fallout...double meaning perhaps? Like Fallout from the betrayal of one of their own (Nathan?) and the death of one of their own (Isaac?) but it also probably deals with nuclear fallout. My guess is Isaac will die as seen in Hiro's future trip in the pilot where we see a dead Isaac with his skull ripped open and the gun that Eden took from Mohindar's attacker next to his body. They show that gun in the preview too. I also think Nathan will turn even darker than he has been to this point.

Then there's the whole Sylar stealing the nuclear guy's powers when he busts out of jail and the team confronting him and trying to stop nuclear annhilation.

[Yannick_B]

Jessica definately seems to be the only one of the personalities with powers. Possession seems to be the simplest explanation at this point.

Possession goes a bit outside of the show's universe which is evolution this and that, as Mohinder insists on voice-overing at us each week.

I think she developped a multiple personality and simply named her Jessica for her sister.

[A.Huerta]

Nikki has had the strength the whole time, just her other personality "Jessica" knows how to use it.

Who played Xenogears? Fei/ID.