Question about Spider-Man's organic web shooters & Magneto

[J_Esformes]

Regarding Spider-Man's organic web shooters:

I've only been reading the ASM from the MU Spider-Man titles and I missed on what happened. Does Spider-Man now have organic web shooters in all SM titles? Can you give a brief description of how this came about?


Regarding Magneto:

I have only read Morrison's run on New X-Men, which left me the impression that Magneto was dead. However, it appears that he is alive in the Avengers Disassembled arc. I've heard that the explanation might lie on the Excalibur or whatever it's called title. Can you help a brother out, so as to be able to understand what's happening?


Thanks in advance guys.

[who cares?]

continuity will give you headaches....

[moonspider]

i've been trying to get the magneto explanation for the longest

[FredC]

That was apparently a Magneto clone or impersonator who was also simultaneously impersonating Xorn, cuz he's still alive or something. Thats about all I know about it.

[Bandit Chimera]

The Magneto that died wasn't magneto it was a evil Xorn who used his secondary mutation to look like Magneto.

Magneto was crying like a pussy on Genosha cause his life was a tottal screw job.

Xavier shows up with dead Xorn/Mag body and then the real Mags stops blubbering and acts good until his stupid daughter goes psycho.

he then uses his powers to open a portal (which has never been done) and now he will only let Xavier in to see him/look after his daughter.

and

According to the newest NA spideys webs are still organic

[The Human Target]

drinking too much to help now

try again tomorrow i have all the answers

[moonspider]

i always thought that mags remains alive because of the magnetic energy that srrounds the universe...see how everything has magnetic energy and he'll keep on living because he kinda lives off it


but what the fuck do I know, I'm not chris claremont

[Scott JB]

Spider-Man: In the Disassembled issues in Spectacular he mutated to a Spider and gave birth to a new version of himself with webshooters. Or something. I forcefully forgot that story.

Magneto: We haven't gotten a complete story behind his return yet.

[Mike Haseloff]

Question about Spider-Man's organic web shooters & MagnetoYes, that's right.

Magneto has organic web-shooters now.

[moonspider]

Yes, that's right.

Magneto has organic web-shooters now.

:D

[Allan]

Answer to the Spider-Man question:

Spidey was briefly turned into a real giant spider from kissing a chick who can control insects (and incidently 33% of the population in the Marvel universe has an "insect gene" that she taps into) who was also an involuntary super soldier that Captain America knows. That was part of Disassembled and written by Paul Jenkins in Spectacular Spider-Man. Basically at the end of the story, Peter spontanously returns back to normal with organic webshooters for no reason. Enjoy.

Magneto is still alive because Grant Morisson brought him back but wrote a crappy death for him in New X-Men. Chris Claremont brought him back as a good guy by calling the guy Grant brought back an evil clone in Excalibur. I stopped reading Excalibur after the first few issues for obvious reasons so I don't know if there was any elaboration on that.

[J_Esformes]

The Magneto that died wasn't magneto it was a evil Xorn who used his secondary mutation to look like Magneto.

Magneto was crying like a pussy on Genosha cause his life was a tottal screw job.

Xavier shows up with dead Xorn/Mag body and then the real Mags stops blubbering and acts good until his stupid daughter goes psycho.

he then uses his powers to open a portal (which has never been done) and now he will only let Xavier in to see him/look after his daughter.


That sounds a bit lame. I really enjoyed the Morrison run, and this development kind of dumps on it! Oh well...it's not the end of the world!

Thanks for enlightening me!

[Jason California]

Regarding Spider-Man's organic web shooters:

I've only been reading the ASM from the MU Spider-Man titles and I missed on what happened. Does Spider-Man now have organic web shooters in all SM titles? Can you give a brief description of how this came about?


Some mutant chick kidnapped Spidey. She could control spiders and I think she was involved in the WWII Super soldier program. SHe mutated Spidey even further adn he became a big giant spider. THis was early period adn he ended up cocooning up. When he came out he was pete again with bio-webs and enhanced spidey sense. I kind of got the impression he could now commune with spiders


Regarding Magneto:

I have only read Morrison's run on New X-Men, which left me the impression that Magneto was dead. However, it appears that he is alive in the Avengers Disassembled arc. I've heard that the explanation might lie on the Excalibur or whatever it's called title. Can you help a brother out, so as to be able to understand what's happening?


Thanks in advance guys.


Magneto is more convoluted. Magento in Planet X was not magneto. He was impersonating Magento impersonating Xorn. This was revealed when Prof got to Genosha with "Magnetos" body . Erik adn charles have been hooked up since.( got to love that Claremont). A little while back the Xmen were in China adn ran into another dude who claimed to be the brother of Xorn. This is kind of funny since Magneto/Xorn said that the character was made up adn the whole idea of a man with a star as a brain was ridiculous. THis guy also had a star for a brain. The Xmen got him back to the institute but have not seen him since. Hopefully Milligan will forget hew is there. I even have a plot idea for why we neve see him again. When he got back to the mansion he ascended to a higher plain while meditating. his consciouness was gon but his body is viable. FOrge fixes up a cool dohicky that harness his his star brain to energize the school. They even make money selling excess energy back the power comapany like peopl do with solar pannels.

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

The Magneto that died wasn't magneto it was a evil Xorn who used his secondary mutation to look like Magneto.

Magneto was crying like a pussy on Genosha cause his life was a tottal screw job.

Xavier shows up with dead Xorn/Mag body and then the real Mags stops blubbering and acts good until his stupid daughter goes psycho.

he then uses his powers to open a portal (which has never been done) and now he will only let Xavier in to see him/look after his daughter.

and

According to the newest NA spideys webs are still organicFar as I know, we've never seen this Xorn body. What does a Xorn look like? Its so sloppy. For some reason, I'm expecting Bendis to address this in House even though its not really his problem or responsibility. It'd be nice if he did, but I'm wondering if its right of me to expect him to do it. I think I'll actually be disappointed if Xorn/Magneto isn't sorted in House. Talk about a high pressure situation.

[Mike Haseloff]

Yes, that's right.

Magneto has organic web-shooters now.:DI know everything there is to know about comics. :cool:

[J_Esformes]

Spider-Man: In the Disassembled issues in Spectacular he mutated to a Spider and gave birth to a new version of himself with webshooters. Or something. I forcefully forgot that story.

Magneto: We haven't gotten a complete story behind his return yet.


That is even lamer than the Magneto explanation.

Well, it's my fault. Me and my curiosity!

[J_Esformes]

Yes, that's right.

Magneto has organic web-shooters now.


:D

[TheKraken]

Spider-Man: In the spectacularly bad Spectacular Spider-Man: Disassembled, Peter fought a WWII super solider gone rogue who was an apparently immortal woman who could mind control large groups of people by tapping into "the insect part of their brains." She traps Spider-Man and starts some weird changed in him. While some very out-of-characters Captain America & Nick Fury action goes on with them trying to stop her, Peter is morphing into a spider. He has to deal with his COMPLETELY out of character wife dragging him to a wedding (a Klingon-themed wedding) while he's growing fur and sprouting extra eyes (because that's what anyone would do. "You don't need medical help, honey, now put on some sunglasses and let's go to the wedding!"), which he has to dart out of as his trasnformation comes to an end. He goes back to the insect lady as a giant spider and hang out for awhile, the good guys try to save the day, and Giant Spider Peter dies... but was apparently pregnant... with a full-grown, totally normal Peter Parker, who falls out of the corpse. This new Peter has organic webshooters and can now talk to insects. Since spiders aren't insects, Peter (and the audience) doesn't know why he can even do that last bit. The End. It's ok to cry.

As for Magneto...

I'd feel better about this whole "Evil twin" bullshit if the "real" Magneto didn't show up wearing the new costume the "Evil twin" made. If the real one was wearing his old outfit or just a suit or something, that would make at least alittle more sense...

[Jason California]

Who the hell is the Xorn is AoA. Xorn was completely different including her sex !

[The Human Target]

Marvel let Morrison kills Mags and then just completly went back on it and came up with the fucking dumbest possible expination to cover.

Spidey gaing organic web shooters in a horrible story.

[moonspider]

this makes my head hurt!

[Allan]

I didn't mind the Gwen thing because I already think all women are whores.

[TheKraken]

Spidey gaing organic web shooters in a horrible story.

The thing that really gets me about it is it's just completely unnecessary. It's rarely even going to come up. The occassional mention like in NA #5 is the only real change that will come of it. So... why do it? You can make Sueprman lose his flying powers and get a complex flying rig that fits under his clothes and is operated with mental commands... but why would you want to?

[The Human Target]

The thing that really gets me about it is it's just completely unnecessary. It's rarely even going to come up. The occassional mention like in NA #5 is the only real change that will come of it. So... why do it? You can make Sueprman lose his flying powers and get a complex flying rig that fits under his clothes and is operated with mental commands... but why would you want to?

I like organic webbing. But that stroy was just ass and they have almost seemed to forget they even did it. There have been zero repercusuions. Its like Marvel has no fucking clue as what they are doing.

[Mike Haseloff]

:DIf you need anymore help with comics information, I'm your man! :mad:

To be honest, I don't want to go muscling on you on your first few days, but I'm kinda like the Kingpin around here. Y'know what I mean?

I trotted into town atop my pony, and I just started flipping cars until I got the old Kingpin, beat him down, and then started yelling people in bars.

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

The thing that really gets me about it is it's just completely unnecessary. It's rarely even going to come up. The occassional mention like in NA #5 is the only real change that will come of it. So... why do it? You can make Sueprman lose his flying powers and get a complex flying rig that fits under his clothes and is operated with mental commands... but why would you want to?
It does seem like it will be mentioned as much as a writer wants to mention it. I'm along for the ride because I know it won't last forever. My gripe? He learned to use them so fast. There was no story where he wasn't able to leave the house for a week because he didn't know how to control his body. And it would have been great if webs exploded out when Spidey got his arm broken in NA. Graphic, but it would have been a cool visual.

[J_Esformes]

Spider-Man: In the spectacularly bad Spectacular Spider-Man: Disassembled, Peter fought a WWII super solider gone rogue who was an apparently immortal woman who could mind control large groups of people by tapping into "the insect part of their brains." She traps Spider-Man and starts some weird changed in him. While some very out-of-characters Captain America & Nick Fury action goes on with them trying to stop her, Peter is morphing into a spider. He has to deal with his COMPLETELY out of character wife dragging him to a wedding (a Klingon-themed wedding) while he's growing fur and sprouting extra eyes (because that's what anyone would do. "You don't need medical help, honey, now put on some sunglasses and let's go to the wedding!"), which he has to dart out of as his trasnformation comes to an end. He goes back to the insect lady as a giant spider and hang out for awhile, the good guys try to save the day, and Giant Spider Peter dies... but was apparently pregnant... with a full-grown, totally normal Peter Parker, who falls out of the corpse. This new Peter has organic webshooters and can now talk to insects. Since spiders aren't insects, Peter (and the audience) doesn't know why he can even do that last bit. The End. It's ok to cry.

:lol:

Oh man, this honestly brought tears in my eyes...couldn't stop laughing with your comment in the end.

How did I miss all that? I am sorry, no offence to the creators of Spectacular, but it's so...so...it's so crap. I rarely voice my opinion If I don't like something, I usually move on, but that is SO CRAP!

OK, I am moving on!
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Why did I have to ask?

[Bandit Chimera]

Far as I know, we've never seen this Xorn body. What does a Xorn look like? Its so sloppy. For some reason, I'm expecting Bendis to address this in House even though its not really his problem or responsibility. It'd be nice if he did, but I'm wondering if its right of me to expect him to do it. I think I'll actually be disappointed if Xorn/Magneto isn't sorted in House. Talk about a high pressure situation.

Me too actually because i thought maybe that once they got the "new Xorn" in Xmen it would be answered.

He mentions a traitor and the imposter breifly (right before the brotherhood attacks) then they shit on him for the next 8 issues like he had nothing to say at all.

Excaliber hasn't helped either. Magneto and Xavier never looked at the body and then decided, issues ago, to act more like the god dammed Bobsy twins than rational mutants trying to explain who the hell wanted the humans enslaved.


i hate x-men ......:(

[Jason California]

The thing that really gets me about it is it's just completely unnecessary. It's rarely even going to come up. The occassional mention like in NA #5 is the only real change that will come of it. So... why do it? You can make Sueprman lose his flying powers and get a complex flying rig that fits under his clothes and is operated with mental commands... but why would you want to?


JoeyQ syas its because more people know the movie version, adn its esaier for them to accept that. Bendis says he wont use them in USM though wich is good.

[DigiEmissary]

Who the hell is the Xorn is AoA. Xorn was completely different including her sex !

"Xorn" was a named assumed by Paige Guthrie who was brainwashed by Sinister and came back to kill the X-Men for abandoning her.

It was a big reveal at the end of one of the issues (though i figured it out when "xorn" had blonde hair and ripped her skin off in the beginning of said issue.)

Also, i didn't really know anything about the organic webs story before, but having read summaries now...

wow. it is worse than clone saga.

[TheKraken]

JoeyQ syas its because more people know the movie version, adn its esaier for them to accept that. Bendis says he wont use them in USM though wich is good.

Then Joe Q is an idiot. Everyone knows the stories of Spider-Man, Batman, and Superman, and knew them before movies were made. Everyone knows how he got his webshooters and even if they didn't, like I said, it's never going to come up. He almost never uses his webs without his gloves on, mechanical or organic, we'll never be able to tell. It's pointless.

[DigiEmissary]

Then Joe Q is an idiot. Everyone knows the stories of Spider-Man, Batman, and Superman, and knew them before movies were made. Everyone knows how he got his webshooters and even if they didn't, like I said, it's never going to come up. He almost never uses his webs without his gloves on, mechanical or organic, we'll never be able to tell. It's pointless.

Quesada is an idiot. His art's okay, but he has absolutely no head for the EIC position. Every time i think of something i'd like to see done in a marvel comic, someone else has already suggested it and he's shot it down.

[J_Esformes]

Then Joe Q is an idiot. Everyone knows the stories of Spider-Man, Batman, and Superman, and knew them before movies were made. Everyone knows how he got his webshooters and even if they didn't, like I said, it's never going to come up. He almost never uses his webs without his gloves on, mechanical or organic, we'll never be able to tell. It's pointless.

Totally agree with you. It's pointless, and ruining the original idea for no good reason, as it doesn’t seem to have an effect so far.

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

Me too actually because i thought maybe that once they got the "new Xorn" in Xmen it would be answered.

He mentions a traitor and the imposter breifly (right before the brotherhood attacks) then they shit on him for the next 8 issues like he had nothing to say at all.

Excaliber hasn't helped either. Magneto and Xavier never looked at the body and then decided, issues ago, to act more like the god dammed Bobsy twins than rational mutants trying to explain who the hell wanted the humans enslaved.


i hate x-men ......:(
Its like I'll accept pretty much anything (I've been reading comics a long time and sometimes they're just screwy) as long as someone at least attempts to reconcile in a way that's not insulting. To read New X-men for a couple years, have the ultimate Magneto story unfold with a shockingly final ending, then have Magneto himself tell me that its not him in the casket sucks so much. What does Morrison have to say? I mean I doubt he cares, but still it'd be nice to know what he felt happened in his story despite company line.

[J_Esformes]

Thanks guys for all the responses.

It was educational to say the least! ;)

[BC at large!]

Couldn't we have at least one issue of a Spidey title where he deals with the new organic webbing, instead of aquiring it, and hardly ever mentioning it again?

I would have liked to see him test it to see how strong it was, or how much he could produce. Anything.

[DrMachine]

I'm guessing that the Magneto from Morrison's run was actually Magneto, as is the one on Genosha...how?

you guessed it...Chaos Magic

i'm not trying to make a joke, I think that this will be addressed in House of M...atleast I hope it is

-JRC

[Fizz]

it's both funny and sad that after these big changes, some of the books pretty much ignored them completely

-new avengers is the only book that has mentioned the organic shooters.

-the new xorn (the brother of someone who supposedly didn't exist :confused: ) showed up for two arcs in X-Men and was then promptly forgotten about.

why would they make these changes and then barely acknowledge that they happened? it's just pointless.

[Archetype]

I'm with JRC. Even if Morrison never planned to explain his over-the-top storylines by saying it was all due to Wanda, that's a great way for Marvel to recover. Man, every arc was world shattering! Marvel really gave Morrison free rein, I gotta say. I love/hate the whole New X-men run.

For example, I hate that Morrison invented a totally new character, Xorn, fresh and interesting powers and personality, love the guy, and then screws us all over by saying he never existed at all. Worse than death. You FEEL the same disbelief and betrayal that the X-men felt. Brilliant!

While I'm on the subject of New X-men, Fantomex is another great character. The best part about him is he KNOWS how cool a character he is, metafictionally. Has anyone used Fantomex except Morrison? Has he disappeared into obscurity?

I think organic web-shooters make a lot more sense than a teenager inventing a revolutionary adhesive chemical AND a genius delivery system which just happens to have a spidery theme. Nevertheless, the "kiss of the spider woman" storyline was pretty lame.

[Fizz]

Has anyone used Fantomex except Morrison? Has he disappeared into obscurity?


I heard that he appeared in Weapon X and Mystique.

[Mike Haseloff]

I heard that he appeared in Weapon X and Mystique.He died in Weapon X, which completely 100% blows.

[Archetype]

That does blow! Unlike many of Morrison's shocking, yet interesting, story choices, I see no reason why Marvel should balk at his existence. How did he die? Not only am I just curious, I also wonder how easily he could come back. What about E.V.A.? Did she survive her ordeal on the Weapon X space station in New X-men?

[Mike Haseloff]

That does blow! Unlike many of Morrison's shocking, yet interesting, story choices, I see no reason why Marvel should balk at his existence. How did he die? Not only am I just curious, I also wonder how easily he could come back. What about E.V.A.? Did she survive her ordeal on the Weapon X space station in New X-men?It's was something lame, like she stuck EVA and Fantomex with the legacy virus.

I've forgotten the how, all that is carved across my forehead is the name - Sean McKeever. :mad:

[joeAR]

Fantomex is going to be in The Weapon X mini that Frank Terri's doing

[Archetype]

It's was something lame, like she stuck EVA and Fantomex with the legacy virus.

I've forgotten the how, all that is carved across my forehead is the name - Sean McKeever. :mad:

Bah! Are people still talking about the legacy virus? That's so passe. The cure is what's hot in genetic biochemistry these days. What's it called? "Hope"?

[Archetype]

Fantomex is going to be in The Weapon X mini that Frank Terri's doing

Good.

Mmm...who's Frank Terri? I'm not familiar with his work.

[Jason California]

Couldn't we have at least one issue of a Spidey title where he deals with the new organic webbing, instead of aquiring it, and hardly ever mentioning it again?

I would have liked to see him test it to see how strong it was, or how much he could produce. Anything.



Since he is now making it himself they should adress his appetite. the stuff needs to dome from smewhere.

[Sean McKeever]

It's was something lame, like she stuck EVA and Fantomex with the legacy virus.

I've forgotten the how, all that is carved across my forehead is the name - Sean McKeever. :mad:
Oh, you know you love me, Mike Hasseloff.

I take it you didn't read #24? http://seanmckeever.com/smilies/whistle.gif

[Sean McKeever]

Bah! Are people still talking about the legacy virus? That's so passe. The cure is what's hot in genetic biochemistry these days. What's it called? "Hope"?
It wasn't actually the legacy virus.

[RegularJoe]

Regarding Spider-Man's organic web shooters:

I've only been reading the ASM from the MU Spider-Man titles and I missed on what happened. Does Spider-Man now have organic web shooters in all SM titles? Can you give a brief description of how this came about?


Regarding Magneto:

I have only read Morrison's run on New X-Men, which left me the impression that Magneto was dead. However, it appears that he is alive in the Avengers Disassembled arc. I've heard that the explanation might lie on the Excalibur or whatever it's called title. Can you help a brother out, so as to be able to understand what's happening?


Thanks in advance guys.

spidey: yes, all organic except usm. what i gather, he somehow started turning into a spider and when it was undone, he still had the organic crap.

magneto: morrison killed him, made him out to be xorn in disguise. claremont undid it, saying it was a duplicate or some such.

[Scottie]

I'm guessing that the Magneto from Morrison's run was actually Magneto, as is the one on Genosha...how?

you guessed it...Chaos Magic

i'm not trying to make a joke, I think that this will be addressed in House of M...atleast I hope it is

-JRC
Scarlet Witch was in Genosha with Xavier and Magneto's "body" in Chuck Austen's pre-Reload New X-Men issues.

[The Human Target]

Fantomex was supposed to die at the end of the weapon X series, but Marvel just kinda decided to say "nevermind" he was just really hurt. But the last panel was super ambiquous, so it didn't get me riled up. And in Mystique she did stab his ass and infect him with a naughty virus. But in the very next issue Fantomex is cool, as McKeever has said. So he is in fact alive and will be in Weapon X- Days of the Future Now. Where he may die again.

[WinterRose]

Essentially, a multimillion dollar movie series of spidey was made and was wildly successful. In those movies, peter had organic webshooters. As the movie very likely caused all sorts of people to start reading the book, they got there and saw the techno-shooters and said what the fuck. Marvel universe 616 continuity was therefore changed to resolve the schizm.

[The Human Target]

Essentially, a multimillion dollar movie series of spidey was made and was wildly successful. In those movies, peter had organic webshooters. As the movie very likely caused all sorts of people to start reading the book, they got there and saw the techno-shooters and said what the fuck. Marvel universe 616 continuity was therefore changed to resolve the schizm.

I disagree. I know some people may have gotten back into Spidey comics, but I don't think a huge wave of new readers came in. And when was the last time anyone even saw the webshooters in the book? Its been a while for me. Plus I mean its not a hard concept to get around- he has wrist gadgets instead if natural spinners. Its not like Peter was a black woman in the comics and a white guy in the movie. That would be confusing. But I agree it was just sort of a what the fuck kind of decision. And I agree with it. Even though that was a nonsense storyline.

[~Hernandez~]

I disagree. I know some people may have gotten back into Spidey comics, but I don't think a huge wave of new readers came in. And when was the last time anyone even saw the webshooters in the book? Its been a while for me. Plus I mean its not a hard concept to get around- he has wrist gadgets instead if natural spinners. Its not like Peter was a black woman in the comics and a white guy in the movie. That would be confusing. But I agree it was just sort of a what the fuck kind of decision. And I agree with it. Even though that was a nonsense storyline.

I agree whole-heartedly. That would be like having a captain Marvel that was, say...a black woman.



er, waitaminnit......

:twisted:

[Mike Haseloff]

Fantomex was supposed to die at the end of the weapon X series, but Marvel just kinda decided to say "nevermind" he was just really hurt. But the last panel was super ambiquous, so it didn't get me riled up. And in Mystique she did stab his ass and infect him with a naughty virus. But in the very next issue Fantomex is cool, as McKeever has said. So he is in fact alive and will be in Weapon X- Days of the Future Now. Where he may die again.Bah! McKeever took great delight in telling me he was dead. :mad:

[The Human Target]

Bah! McKeever took great delight in telling me he was dead. :mad:

All Board creators love to fuck with you.

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

I disagree. I know some people may have gotten back into Spidey comics, but I don't think a huge wave of new readers came in. And when was the last time anyone even saw the webshooters in the book? Its been a while for me. Plus I mean its not a hard concept to get around- he has wrist gadgets instead if natural spinners. Its not like Peter was a black woman in the comics and a white guy in the movie. That would be confusing. But I agree it was just sort of a what the fuck kind of decision. And I agree with it. Even though that was a nonsense storyline.
It seems like back in the day (80s) Spiderman's webshooters were more of an active element of the storytelling. They'd get broken or he'd run out of webbing while falling or blow it all doing something. And he'd have to work hard to make more because it wasn't exactly cheap to make. That sort of thing kind of went away after a while though. But if organic webshooters are en vogue, then show them to me. Make it part of the story. Show me how he is learning to deal with it or how things are different because of it. Otherwise its a concession to make acclimating to comics easier for someone who just watched the movie but isn't likely to take the next step and actually try a comic.

[Mike Haseloff]

All Board creators love to fuck with you.Soon, I will be their peer, and then, when the iron is hot... WOOPAH!

I will destroy them. :twisted:

[The Human Target]

It seems like back in the day (80s) Spiderman's webshooters were more of an active element of the storytelling. They'd get broken or he'd run out of webbing while falling or blow it all doing something. And he'd have to work hard to make more because it wasn't exactly cheap to make. That sort of thing kind of went away after a while though. But if organic webshooters are en vogue, then show them to me. Make it part of the story. Show me how he is learning to deal with it or how things are different because of it. Otherwise its a concession to make acclimating to comics easier for someone who just watched the movie but isn't likely to take the next step and actually try a comic.

I totally agree with you. Its just bad story telling. Thats why I drooped all my Spider books. I couldn't figure out why I even cared anymore. I want to, but I just can't.

[The Human Target]

Soon, I will be their peer, and then, when the iron is hot... WOOPAH!

I will destroy them. :twisted:

That or they'll just give you a massive counter clockwise swirly.

[Mike Haseloff]

That or they'll just give you a massive counter clockwise swirly.Pfffft, I'll use my mane to create the worlds biggest spitcurl, and then Superman their asses! :mad:

And then I'll conquer the charts with my massive amount of top selling books; New New Invaders, Marvel Knights: Spider-man, Marvel Knights: Morbius & Nightwatch, Super Skrull, and whatever else I may be gracing with my creative genius at the given time... :cool:

IMPERIUS REX!

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

I totally agree with you. Its just bad story telling. Thats why I drooped all my Spider books. I couldn't figure out why I even cared anymore. I want to, but I just can't.
I get my Spiderman from USM and Avengers. And definitely Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman when that happens. If organic webs are going to stay for a while, I'd guarantee Peter David would be the kind of writer to address these things we talk about. The having to eat, the learning to use them, the not learning to use them, etc.

[The Human Target]

I get my Spiderman from USM and Avengers. And definitely Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman when that happens. If organic webs are going to stay for a while, I'd guarantee Peter David would be the kind of writer to address these things we talk about. The having to eat, the learning to use them, the not learning to use them, etc.

I wasn't going to get the Waid version, but I'll give PAD a shot. I liked Madrox and always want to get his Fallen Angel. I dropped NA this last issue and I dislike the concept of USM.

But I have caved and gotten into the Ultimates.