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Taxman
11-05-2006, 09:57 AM
http://ottawasun.com/Showbiz/VideoGames/2006/11/05/2242109-sun.html

Xbox 360 update a nightmare

By STEVE TILLEY, SUN MEDIA

What's white, costs $499 can be used as a doorstop, paperweight or boat anchor? Some gamers' Xbox 360s after applying this week's dashboard update, apparently.

What should have been an occasion for joyous celebration (or at least quiet contentment) turned into a teeth-gnashing nightmare for some unlucky Xbox 360 owners earlier this week.

The latest software update for the console, which as of Tuesday had to be downloaded before logging into Xbox Live, inexplicably cratered thousands of Xbox 360s, rendering them ivory hunks of useless electronics.

After Internet forums lit up with wails of anger and frustration, Microsoft quietly admitted there was a problem with the software update, and replaced it with a safe, non-castrating version on Thursday.

Xbox 360 owners whose consoles got "bricked" by the update - Microsoft says the problem affected less than 1% of all 360 owners - need to call customer support at 1-800-4-MY-XBOX to arrange for repair or replacement.

For those of us who downloaded the update with no problems, the 360's dashboard has been upgraded with a few welcome new features, like better organization of Xbox Live Marketplace content (though it could still use an overhaul), the ability to stream Windows Media Video files from a Windows XP computer to your 360, and 1080p video resolution output support. There are a few dozen other less obvious tweaks as well.

Not that it's going to matter if you're among that 1% whose consoles got fried by the update.

Let's hope the repair turnaround is quick - Gears of War is two days away. Maybe Microsoft can invest some of the game's profits into better update testing, eh wot?

- - -

Sony has made much of the fact that both models of the upcoming PlayStation 3 will come with a hard drive.

And why not? Microsoft's decision to release a version of the Xbox 360 without a hard drive (unaffectionately known as the "tard pack") was a silly move, in my ever so humble opinion.

But does a hard drive in every PS3 mean that we're going to see the era of console games that need to be installed before playing?

While the PS3's much-ballyhooed Blu-ray discs have several times the capacity of DVDs, the speed at which the Blu-ray drive reads data off the disc is actually slower than most current DVD-ROM drives.

Coincidentally - or not - we learned this week of two PS3 launch games that will allow you to install a chunk of the game to the hard drive for faster loading times.

Genji: Days Of The Blade will have an option to install 4 GB of data onto the PS3's hard drive, and Ridge Racer 7 will ask gamers if they want to install a 5 GB hunk of the game to the drive before playing.

Using the PS3's built-in hard drive to speed load times is a good thing, sure. But having to wait to install a game before the first time you play it, or watching the space on your hard drive get consumed by multiple game installations, are drawbacks of PC gaming that console gamers have never had to contend with before.

It'll be interesting to see where this trend goes, and we'll be watching closely. Suddenly, the 60 GB version of the PS3 is looking a lot more attractive.

Busman
11-05-2006, 10:16 AM
Not sure how this makes the 360 teh suck. I mean, yeah it sucks for those people that got bricked. Overall, 360 is still a great console.

mewelke
11-05-2006, 10:37 AM
I have to agree with Busse here. That's a pretty Kotaku-esque headline there Taxman.

ramtower
11-05-2006, 03:54 PM
Kotakuean, even. Yeah, I've heard of people having trouble updating, people getting bricked, but it's like reports of dead pixels on the DS Lite: it's a small percentage, and the errors are being handled, and it's a great console... And I'm a freakin' Wii Lad.

Taxman
11-05-2006, 05:08 PM
The guys on Bendis side who had their systems die said they have to pay $140 to have the thing fixed. I found that an outrageous injustice. I did mean to be flip as well.

But if you want to ban me, ban me. I'll hang out on Van Sciver's board and take up the fascist cause.

ramtower
11-05-2006, 06:01 PM
Yay, fascism!
Nah, who'd ban you for having an opinion?

oh, wait... Me! Moohaha!

I'd be cheesed about a $140 repair fee, though. They can probably argue it away, but I don't know the details of their problems... But, yes, that does suck for any of the 1% affected, excluding the modders. (Having modded my clipped my SNES and N64 cart slots and modded Japanese dreamcast to play US games, I understand the risks involved in modding, but if they weren't modders, then I share their wrath. One hopes MS does right by them.)

Busman
11-05-2006, 07:22 PM
Who talked about banning?

Sheesh!

ramtower
11-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Yeah, but now, he's got me thinking! I'm drunk with powers I probably don't have! Weeeeheeheehee!

TheContact
11-07-2006, 12:24 AM
Yeah, my first 360 bricked itself for no apparent reason (random hardware failure while playing ping-pong). Had to pay $140 for the repair, which sucked.

However, they extended the warranty for 360s purchased last year for an extra year, and after calling them, in theory, I have a refund on the way. Which makes it slightly less painful, though still not exactly awesome. I'm pretty sure that their failure rate for first runs of 360s was higher than 1%, since if it was 1%, they probably wouldn't have done the auto-extension of the warranty. Launch pains I guess.

Taxman
01-10-2007, 02:36 PM
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=99120

mewelke
01-10-2007, 02:52 PM
I'm still yet to have a problem. Retail box works fine. The seven debug kits I run all work fine as well, including the poor bastard of a box that I'm moving between a test lab and my desk four or five times a week.

GelfXIII
01-10-2007, 02:57 PM
My first one had to go back to the store within the first 3 days we had it, but the second one is working fine, so far (knock wood).

Hey, what's it mean when the lights on the controller's center xbox emblem sort of rotate around, instead of being solid in the upper left (or right for controller #2) quadrant? Is it telling me the batteries are dying?

mewelke
01-10-2007, 02:58 PM
Is it telling me the batteries are dying?

Yup

GelfXIII
01-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Yup

That's what I thought. Thanks. How many hours of use do you figure you should get from 2 new AA batteries on a controller? (I'm wondering how many to steal from work :lol:)

mewelke
01-10-2007, 03:03 PM
That's what I thought. Thanks. How many hours of use do you figure you should get from 2 new AA batteries on a controller? (I'm wondering how many to steal from work :lol:)

I reccomend the chargeables.

GelfXIII
01-10-2007, 03:04 PM
I reccomend the chargeables.


...but I cant steal those from work! :scared:

Brian Reed
01-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Another handy battery tip -- pop the battery pack out between play sessions. I've noticed a marked difference in battery life doing that. Also, you cannot go wrong with the recharge kit. I wish to FUCK Nintendo would put one out for the Wii.

Busman
01-10-2007, 04:21 PM
I bought my Xbox in December of 2005. I played it for the first month pretty solidly until my free month of gold live ran out. Then I didn't play it for aobut 10 months. When I pulled out my controller 10 months later I still got about 6 hours of playable time from the original batteries that came when I bought it.

Since then, I've put in a new pair and have played 30 or so hours of games over the last couple of months, they still work.

Taxman
12-24-2007, 11:23 AM
The ole 360 has been acting up for a while now. Today it decided that it likes to have it's tray open all of the time. I suppose it is somewhat amusing. The screen says "please close try" and as soon as you do it opens again. So, the thing is not completely worthless. You can still use whatever is on the hard drive, and whatever you can draw in off of the network. You can still use the HD DVD accessory. You can't use any game discs though, not with this machine. And of course, this happens the day before Christmas, when most of the best gifts we have for Christmas are XboX thingies. XboX has ruined Christmas.

Fuck you XboX. :x

intercept789
12-28-2007, 03:34 PM
My Nephews are on their fourth XBox 360. Red ring or death or whatever it's called.