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Race
10-03-2006, 04:20 AM
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'
North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry said in a statement.

The move would "bolster" the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting international pressure over its nuclear programme, and in July was condemned by the UN for test launching missiles.

Japan's PM Shinzo Abe said the nuclear test plans were unacceptable and would be responded to "harshly".

North Korea gave no time frame for a test, but correspondents say a successful nuclear trial would signal the end of international negotiations on the North's nuclear ambitions, and threaten a dangerous arms race in East Asia.

'Grave situation'

North Korea is thought to have developed a handful of warheads but has never before announced it would test one.

The announcement comes as six-nation talks on its nuclear programme have been stalled for a year.

The North has also appeared increasingly angry at sanctions imposed by the US and other countries on North Korean businesses accused of arms sales and illegal activities.

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed", though it did not state when.

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."

The move comes after the UN imposed sanctions on North Korea in July, for test-firing seven missiles including a long-range Taepodong-2 - believed to be capable of reaching Alaska.

The missile tests also prompted South Korea to suspend aid to the North, and correspondents say China had been showing signs of frustration with its old Communist ally.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso called the new test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reported.

"Our response will be severe. This is more serious than the North's missile tests," he said.

A successful nuclear test would put pressure on Japan and South Korea to develop their own nuclear capabilities.

Nuclear claims

North Korea claims to have nuclear weapons and to be working on building up its arsenal.

In 2002 it restarted its nuclear reactor at Yongbyon and forced two UN nuclear monitors to leave the country.

It is unclear how far work has progressed at the plant since then.

Washington is not only concerned about the development of such weapons in North Korea, but also wants to curb Pyongyang's capacity to export missile and nuclear technology to other states or organisations.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/5402018.stm
Published: 2006/10/03 11:16:37 GMTDoes anyone know China's stance on this?

Bill?
10-03-2006, 04:22 AM
what? we would we want to go with to war with a country that actually has the bomb? that'd be crazy! haven't you seen TV's Jericho? let's just stick to countries like Iraq that maybe probably thought about it before.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
10-03-2006, 04:33 AM
Does anyone know China's stance on this?
China probably doesn't like it.

Race
10-03-2006, 04:36 AM
China probably doesn't like it.The US or N. Korea's nuclear ambitions?

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
10-03-2006, 04:40 AM
The US or N. Korea's nuclear ambitions?
I would assume that China doesn't like either, but that they would side with us because of the ties that we have with their economy now.

Bill?
10-03-2006, 04:44 AM
The US or N. Korea's nuclear ambitions?

I would assume the latter. North Korea and China haven't gotten along for a long time, and China seems more concenred with it's own economic reforms lately (for which they need good relations with the United States and South Korea. among others).

Race
10-03-2006, 04:46 AM
Wait a sec, I think I was mixing up N. Korea with Iran (too many madmen) - IIRC, China and Russia support Iran's nuclear program.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
10-03-2006, 04:58 AM
Wait a sec, I think I was mixing up N. Korea with Iran (too many madmen) - IIRC, China and Russia support Iran's nuclear program.
So what is your question?

Race
10-03-2006, 05:05 AM
So what is your question?Not a question, really - I was uncertain about China's stance on N. Korea, but was thinking they supported them, when it was actually Iran they back.

Which relieves a LOT of pressure, since I don't think there are any other countries (except perhaps Iran) that would back N. Korea over the US and Japan.

Shepherd
10-03-2006, 05:36 AM
Hmmmm, I don't imagine this would be good for me. Good thing I'm as far South in South Korea as you can go without leaving the penninsula.

R

Bill?
10-03-2006, 05:37 AM
Hmmmm, I don't imagine this would be good for me. Good thing I'm as far South in South Korea as you can go without leaving the penninsula.

R

that ain't gonna save you from no nuke, my man.

Shepherd
10-03-2006, 06:00 AM
that ain't gonna save you from no nuke, my man.

It'll give me a lot more time to get out than if I lived in Seoul. Busan isn't a very good military target (it was the only city not taken during the Korean War), so I'll probably have some time to run if things start up. Besides, I don't think a nuke exists that can take out all of South Korea in one swoop, and I'm sure they'd hit the North LONG before they'd come my way.

R

Bill?
10-03-2006, 06:17 AM
It'll give me a lot more time to get out than if I lived in Seoul. Busan isn't a very good military target (it was the only city not taken during the Korean War), so I'll probably have some time to run if things start up. Besides, I don't think a nuke exists that can take out all of South Korea in one swoop, and I'm sure they'd hit the North LONG before they'd come my way.

R

yeah, i'm not actually sure. I guess it depnds on how many nukes the have/ can launch and how far they go. that sort of thing. but isn't Busan a big trading port? that would make it an attractive target, I'd think. anyways, all I'm saying is I feel much safer here in Michigan than I would there.

Shepherd
10-03-2006, 02:34 PM
yeah, i'm not actually sure. I guess it depnds on how many nukes the have/ can launch and how far they go. that sort of thing. but isn't Busan a big trading port? that would make it an attractive target, I'd think. anyways, all I'm saying is I feel much safer here in Michigan than I would there.

You're right. It is a trading port (biggest one in Korea actually)....something I hadn't considered....

Still, I'm not too worried. I don't really think N. Korea will use the weapons.

R

MattJohnson
10-03-2006, 02:39 PM
yeah, i'm not actually sure. I guess it depnds on how many nukes the have/ can launch and how far they go. that sort of thing. but isn't Busan a big trading port? that would make it an attractive target, I'd think. anyways, all I'm saying is I feel much safer here in Michigan than I would there.

Hey, Michigan. Where in Michigan?

TheTravis!
10-03-2006, 02:41 PM
Sigh. Trouble in North Korea? It's like he taught us all nothing.
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