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TonyDiGerolamo
09-13-2006, 08:57 AM
http://www.filmwad.com/transformers-365-p.html

In the words of Bumblebee, "Oh, shit."

-TD

Cth
09-13-2006, 09:04 AM
http://www.filmwad.com/transformers-365-p.html

In the words of Bumblebee, "Oh, shit."

-TD

Try reading the rest of it :D

Here's a later excerpt:

SPOILERS


REFLECTED IN THEIR EYES: as one, the robots access the internet -- "YAHOO" appears -- and they download every piece of data in cyberspace: millions of images throughout history, pop culture.

Optimus assesses Earth's population count, and because China is #1 with "1,300,000,000" his first words to them are in booming Chinese. They stare, dumbfounded...

MIKAELA
(barely a whisper)
Was that... Chinese?

Hearing her, Optimus' readout (?) as ENGLISH. He lowers down, his massive face ten times bigger than their bodies. When he speaks, we recognize his voice from our opening voice over:

[...]

SAM
You ARE aliens..

OPTIMUS
Correct. We are autonomous robotic organisms from the planet Cybertron.

MIKAELA
Autonomous robots... Autobots...

OPTIMUS
There are no translateions for our individual nomenclatures.

SAM
You mean.. your names?

OPTIMUS
Yes -- they have been selected from your vocabulary to approximate our behavioral temperaments.

[...]

My first Lieutenant. Designation: Jazz.

[...]

Our weapons specialist, forged in the Tri-Penisular Torus states of Praxus: Ironhide.

[...]

Our medical officer, chief emmisary to the High Council of ancients: Ratchet.

[...]

Understood, Mikaela Banes. And you already know Bumblebee, guardian of Sam Witwicky.

SAM
Bumblebee...?

From Bumblebee's speakers, MUHAMMAD ALI and his famous catchphrase plays: "Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee."

Craig C
09-13-2006, 09:06 AM
so it was the energon cube that they were fighting over? And here all this time I thought that Megatron wanted to convert Cybertron into a travelling planet. Silly me glad that Michael Bay is here to correct me. :roll:

Evan Wiener
09-13-2006, 09:07 AM
Ew... Optimus Prime?
http://www.filmwad.com/ul/883-550x-prime1.jpg

Cth
09-13-2006, 09:08 AM
so it was the energon cube that they were fighting over? And here all this time I thought that Megatron wanted to convert Cybertron into a travelling planet. Silly me glad that Michael Bay is here to correct me. :roll:

You realize how many explanations they've given for why they've been fighting?

It's not the cartoon, get over it.

The Cheap-Arse Film Critic
09-13-2006, 09:08 AM
The first page was actually okay.

It went sort of sideways after that, though...

Bervda
09-13-2006, 09:10 AM
This movie is going to be a billion different types of stupid fun.

Craig C
09-13-2006, 09:10 AM
You realize how many explanations they've given for why they've been fighting?

It's not the cartoon, get over it.

Yeah I realize that I was talking about the comic.

Jef UK
09-13-2006, 09:13 AM
so it was the energon cube that they were fighting over? And here all this time I thought that Megatron wanted to convert Cybertron into a travelling planet. Silly me glad that Michael Bay is here to correct me. :roll:

Yes, every iteration should be same as the cartoons you watched or the comics you read. Roll eyes.

Ryudo
09-13-2006, 09:15 AM
This movie is going to be a billion different types of stupid fun.

Thank you, other person with common sense.

Just like the people freaked out when the X-Men wore black leather and Spider-Man had organic webshooters, they will freak out at minute differences here.

It utilizes the source material but is not the same. If you wanna watch the old TF shows or the old TF movie, they're out there. But if you wanna see some badass live-action with CGI bots that look semi-real, go to the theatres next year and see this.

Bervda
09-13-2006, 09:17 AM
Thank you, other person with common sense.

Just like the people freaked out when the X-Men wore black leather and Spider-Man had organic webshooters, they will freak out at minute differences here.

It utilizes the source material but is not the same. If you wanna watch the old TF shows or the old TF movie, they're out there. But if you wanna see some badass live-action with CGI bots that look semi-real, go to the theatres next year and see this.

It's like X-3. Did that movie's script blow ass? Yeah, no doubt. Did I go to the theatre knowing this? Why of course. And what happened? I watched the dumb actiony bits and ignored anything that resembled plot. You know what? TONS OF FUN.

You just have to know what you're getting into, that's all.

Ryudo
09-13-2006, 09:23 AM
Yea, I actually thought X3 was good...

:boogie:

adamgreenberger
09-13-2006, 09:25 AM
I think this is going to be a great movie...I can't wait for it.

Kirblar
09-13-2006, 09:25 AM
First third of X-3 was REALLY good. Jean's dual personalities, Mystique's situation. Then it just went to shit.

And this sounds like fun.

Ozzdo
09-13-2006, 10:34 AM
Aside from the flames on Optimus, I think that's a pretty decent approximation of his original design. I always understood that they couldn't make the characters look exactly like they do in the cartoon, becasue it wouldn't always belieavbly work in the real world. It's like dressing up Hugh Jackman in the yellow Wolverine costume.

Based on those pages, I think it's off to a good start. And the Autobot introduction scene was actually kind of fun. Everybody just needs to remember that they're not exactly adapting Shakesphere, here. It's a 1980's cartoon made to sell toys. There aren't exactly nuances to capture, here. Looks like they're on more or less the right track.

Ray G.
09-13-2006, 10:35 AM
This looks like silly, scriptless over-the-top fun.

I'm getting a Godzilla vibe from it, which isn't all bad.

Skatonic10
09-13-2006, 11:27 AM
Ok, someone please explain to me how aliens who are millions of years old just happen to look like cars of today?

Maybe big rig trucks are popular in the far reaches of space?

Cth
09-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Ok, someone please explain to me how aliens who are millions of years old just happen to look like cars of today?

Maybe big rig trucks are popular in the far reaches of space?

Remember Terminator?

How he scans his surroundings and tries to fit in? Does he really NEED to wear clothes?

Same principle.

Ozzdo
09-13-2006, 11:39 AM
Ok, someone please explain to me how aliens who are millions of years old just happen to look like cars of today?

Maybe big rig trucks are popular in the far reaches of space?

In the first episode of the old cartoon, when they were back on their home planet, they turned into alien looking vehicles. When they came to Earth, they adapted themselves to the technology here, which is when they started turning into cars and planes. I'm pretty sure the movie will be doing the same thing.

Shade
09-13-2006, 11:40 AM
Apparently this draft is over 4 months old, and isnt the script they're shooting with.

cmoney
09-13-2006, 11:44 AM
Ok, someone please explain to me how aliens who are millions of years old just happen to look like cars of today?

Maybe big rig trucks are popular in the far reaches of space?

Are you genuinely curious or are you trying to bash the film? Because if it's the latter, you're doing it on a a false premise. Since day one of the original cartoon, the process of adapting their appearances to Earth tech has been a large characteristic of the franchise. Bay's movie isn't going against any part of established lore in that regard.

Cth
09-13-2006, 11:49 AM
Apparently this draft is over 4 months old, and isnt the script they're shooting with.

For the most part, it is.

The names are obviously different, but the overall plot is the same.. they tinkered with the Megatron/Starscream stuff since fans wanted more interaction between the two.

Past that, I haven't heard of any changes that have leaked publically yet.

Shade
09-13-2006, 12:29 PM
For the most part, it is.

The names are obviously different, but the overall plot is the same.. they tinkered with the Megatron/Starscream stuff since fans wanted more interaction between the two.

Past that, I haven't heard of any changes that have leaked publically yet.


Pretty sure they mentioned that Bumblebee will speak in the movie as well

TonyDiGerolamo
09-13-2006, 01:38 PM
The problem is, why make changes that don't gain you anything for a story? So, for instance, in the cartoon, part of the fun was watching the alien-looking autobots get transformed (pardon the pun) because the shipboard computer had to fix them and had lost their schematics in the crash. That would still be fun to see. If they lose that just because they didn't want to copy the cartoon, that would be lame.

The energon cube thing is a little odd. In the series, there were lots of them, not just one. It's like the guys who made the movie just picked a random thing in the cartoon and decided, "Okay, they'll fight over that."

The first run of the cartoon was actually fairly interesting, in that they were constantly revealing more about their planet, why the war continued and how the characters evolved. Once the toy franchise started to overwhelm things, the story began to fall apart.

These days, there's plenty of CGI candy out there. I'd had to see this as just another high-tech version of Robot Jox. (Anyone get that reference? Anyone?)

-TD

Donal DeLay
09-13-2006, 02:04 PM
Damn, I haven't heard Robot Jox in a long time.

I don't understand why their appearances as vehicles need to be changed. To make them "badass"? There are still flatnose trucks being produced. Why change Bumblebee from a bug to a camaro?

Aside from Chevy paying them shitloads of money because they want a bigass dramatic debut for their new Camaro design/debut.

Why?

It's not going to ruin my enjoyment of the movie (I'm going in expecting Michael Bay mindless fun, not Academy Awards) but I would like to know why the designs had to be changed. SOME sort of valid reason aside from corporate marketting whoring.

Gecko
09-13-2006, 02:09 PM
I think the film is going to be complete garbage.

Yet there is only one thread of hope and that's Tom DeSanto being involved in this project. He's a great producer and had marvelous ideas most of the time. I hoping he can control Bay from screwing this up.

Yannick_B
09-13-2006, 02:18 PM
The energon cube thing is a little odd. In the series, there were lots of them, not just one. It's like the guys who made the movie just picked a random thing in the cartoon and decided, "Okay, they'll fight over that."



I remember a loooong time ago one of the producers saying that they'd be fighting over the matrix, but because of the movie and the buzz surrounding that word, they couldnt call it that anymore, so it became the energon cube.

Cth
09-14-2006, 06:34 AM
Pretty sure they mentioned that Bumblebee will speak in the movie as well

Yup.

SPOILERS


It's just one scene though.. he had this vocal unit ripped out by Megatron or something in an earlier battle, and he struggles to say something to Spike before he comes close to dying.



Damn, I haven't heard Robot Jox in a long time.

I don't understand why their appearances as vehicles need to be changed. To make them "badass"? There are still flatnose trucks being produced. Why change Bumblebee from a bug to a camaro?

Aside from Chevy paying them shitloads of money because they want a bigass dramatic debut for their new Camaro design/debut.

Why?

It's not going to ruin my enjoyment of the movie (I'm going in expecting Michael Bay mindless fun, not Academy Awards) but I would like to know why the designs had to be changed. SOME sort of valid reason aside from corporate marketting whoring.

Well, everyone knows the Volkswagon stuff by now I'd hope.

Presuming you haven't, VW didn't want their vehicles associated with war.


I remember a loooong time ago one of the producers saying that they'd be fighting over the matrix, but because of the movie and the buzz surrounding that word, they couldnt call it that anymore, so it became the energon cube.

This is true.

There was talk of changing it to the All Spark, but no word on that yet.

The Matrix trilogy basically ruined any chance of it being called the matrix.. And you have the car named the Matrix as well, so there may be some potential legal issues as well.

A.Huerta
09-14-2006, 07:40 AM
I think the film is going to be complete garbage.

Yet there is only one thread of hope and that's Tom DeSanto being involved in this project. He's a great producer and had marvelous ideas most of the time. I hoping he can control Bay from screwing this up.


This means the movie will be GREAT! Thank you.

ImYrWoodbury
09-14-2006, 07:49 AM
http://www.filmwad.com/transformers-365-p.html

In the words of Bumblebee, "Oh, shit."

-TD

I thought it was Spike who said that.

Shade
09-14-2006, 08:25 AM
Yup.

SPOILERS


It's just one scene though.. he had this vocal unit ripped out by Megatron or something in an earlier battle, and he struggles to say something to Spike before he comes close to dying.




Well, everyone knows the Volkswagon stuff by now I'd hope.

Presuming you haven't, VW didn't want their vehicles associated with war.



This is true.

There was talk of changing it to the All Spark, but no word on that yet.

The Matrix trilogy basically ruined any chance of it being called the matrix.. And you have the car named the Matrix as well, so there may be some potential legal issues as well.


No, I know that part. I've read the Script. What I meant was he will speak throughout the whole movie