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JayPee
04-26-2005, 05:59 AM
i'm sure tons of news from tons of different sites has been posted here, but i never saw any of it. and this article might have stuff the others didn't so here it is.....j.p.
Lucas Plans 2 Star Wars TV Series
CGI Cartoon & Live Action
April 26, 2005
Numerous reports emanating from the Star Wars Celebration III convention in Indianapolis confirm that, although Episode III: Revenge of the Sith may be the last of the big screen Star Wars adventures, George Lucas has plans to take his mega-property to television. Lucas announced two television projects, one a half-hour computer-animated cartoon series (reportedly based on the Clone Wars series currently running on the Cartoon Network) and a live action Star Wars show that will take place between episodes 3 & 4 and will feature at least some characters from the original trilogy.
Lucas indicated that the live action Star Wars series would be produced in the same way he did the Young Indiana Jones series -- scripts for an entire season would be prepared in advance and then the shooting of all the episodes would be done in one big block. Lucas indicated that he would direct the pilot for the show and then hand it off to others. Star Wars producer Rick McCallum said that the live action series was planned for 100 episodes.
The earliest that the live action Star Wars series could debut is 2007, the fortieth anniversary of the release of the first Star Wars film -- and the beginning of the re-release of all six Star Wars theatrical features in a re-mastered 3-D format (see "Star Wars in 3-D").
http://icv2.com/articles/home/6769.html (http://icv2.com/articles/home/6769.html)
sto110
04-26-2005, 06:00 AM
Star wars, on tv.....niiice
Jim T.
04-26-2005, 06:02 AM
If they could put the same kind of writing skill behind this that the Indy series or even the KOTOR games have had, this could be really cool. Just keep Lucas the hell away from it.
Gregory
04-26-2005, 06:03 AM
Between 3 and 4? Seems limiting.
2007 would be 30 years from the original release, not 40...
sto110
04-26-2005, 06:10 AM
Between 3 and 4? Seems limiting.
well you have a 20 so year span there, 4 main characters to follow, Luke as he grows from a child to an late teenager, Leia the same, Vader as he continues to solidify his hold on the dark side and Palpatine as he asserts his power.
of the 4 3 of them never meet and gives you the power to have completely different stories that noone knows about. Luke can have Ben Kenobi looking in on him from time to time without luke ever knowing about it, but the Lars would know about him.... any remaining jedi in the galaxy could be hunted down by vader, leia could start to ally herself with the rebellian while at the same time moving into goverment..... then there are the tons of secondary characters that they could expand on... Tarkin in the republic, Organa as he raises Leia, C3po and Artoo as the stay with Leia, and Jar Jar... ok that last one was a joke......
Actually that is probably the best timeframe to do unless they went with completly new characters in a different time ala KOTOR or after all the movies .....
nihilance
04-26-2005, 06:11 AM
2007 would be 30 years from the original release, not 40...
Yeah...I'm not that old.
greg donovan
04-26-2005, 06:17 AM
i had a feeling that something like this would happen w/thetv show. since ep III will probably end nearly 20 years before episode IV.
i hope that happens. it would be really cool. just as long as it is better than the damn ewok movies.
nihilance
04-26-2005, 06:18 AM
well you have a 20 so year span there, 4 main characters to follow, Luke as he grows from a child to an late teenager, Leia the same, Vader as he continues to solidify his hold on the dark side and Palpatine as he asserts his power.
of the 4 3 of them never meet and gives you the power to have completely different stories that noone knows about. Luke can have Ben Kenobi looking in on him from time to time without luke ever knowing about it, but the Lars would know about him.... any remaining jedi in the galaxy could be hunted down by vader, leia could start to ally herself with the rebellian while at the same time moving into goverment..... then there are the tons of secondary characters that they could expand on... Tarkin in the republic, Organa as he raises Leia, C3po and Artoo as the stay with Leia, and Jar Jar... ok that last one was a joke......
Actually that is probably the best timeframe to do unless they went with completly new characters in a different time ala KOTOR or after all the movies .....
There are tons of characters they can put into this...basically anyone who survives episode 3 as well as absolutely any character from the original trilogy. We could see Han dump the spice that ended up causing Jabba to put a price on his head. We can see how Han and Chewie really met (not the save the slave/life debt speculation). We can see beggars canyon and Luke shooting wamprats in his T-16 (not to mention all his buds from Toshii Station that were cut out of the original movie). The list goes on and on.
How much you want to bet that a primary focus of the series will be Vader tutoring an apprentice of his own?
And that we get to see Boba Fett in his prime?
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 06:54 AM
So... it'll be Star Wars only with commercial breaks and crappier special effects? Eh. Just leave it alone.
Fett'll be reserved for sweeps easily :)
As far as with commercial breaks and crappier special effects.. well, you just described CLONE WARS which most people enjoy.
Matt Jay
04-26-2005, 07:00 AM
I was just thinking how great it would be if we could see Vader exterminating some rebel scum in between 3 & 4. But two things are essential for it not to suck: 1. high production values and 2. Lucas stays away. I agree with whoever said to let the KOTOR writers handle it. They ruled.
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 07:02 AM
Fett'll be reserved for sweeps easily :)
As far as with commercial breaks and crappier special effects.. well, you just described CLONE WARS which most people enjoy.
#1 Clone Wars is a cartoon so I don't know if crappier effects applies really.
#2 I didn't say people wouldn't enjoy it. I'm just not into the concept.
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 07:04 AM
I was just thinking how great it would be if we could see Vader exterminating some rebel scum in between 3 & 4. But two things are essential for it not to suck: 1. high production values and 2. Lucas stays away. I agree with whoever said to let the KOTOR writers handle it. They ruled.
Lucas stays away? Star Wars is his baby! If there's gonna be a TV show at all I'd rather get the 100% Lucas version than something farmed out.
bartleby
04-26-2005, 07:08 AM
Lucas stays away? Star Wars is his baby! If there's gonna be a TV show at all I'd rather get the 100% Lucas version than something farmed out.
Heaven forbid we ever see a Star Wars product that was created without George Lucas' direct involvement.
Jonny Z
04-26-2005, 07:12 AM
i hope they bring back patrick stewart to play Picard in the live action series
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 07:12 AM
Heaven forbid we ever see a Star Wars product that was created without George Lucas' direct involvement.
You know what I mean. Obviously he isn't sculpting the action figures or anything, but, given the choice, I'd take a Lucas-involved Star Wars story than a non-Lucas involved one.
Chris McCarver
04-26-2005, 07:25 AM
Heaven forbid we ever see a Star Wars product that was created without George Lucas' direct involvement.
Or, for that matter, a Star Wars product set AFTER Return of the Jedi. We know what happened before, I'm more interested in seeing what happens next, comics and novels notwithstanding.
Scottie
04-26-2005, 07:35 AM
There are tons of characters they can put into this...basically anyone who survives episode 3 as well as absolutely any character from the original trilogy. We could see Han dump the spice that ended up causing Jabba to put a price on his head. We can see how Han and Chewie really met (not the save the slave/life debt speculation). We can see beggars canyon and Luke shooting wamprats in his T-16 (not to mention all his buds from Toshii Station that were cut out of the original movie). The list goes on and on.
Nonono, no someone other than Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. At least not a Han Solo that's old enough to be dumpin' spice shipments. It would be nice if they could get the guy that played the Emperor and James Earl Jones to do the show though, even if its only as guest shots.
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 07:42 AM
Nonono, no someone other than Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. At least not a Han Solo that's old enough to be dumpin' spice shipments. It would be nice if they could get the guy that played the Emperor and James Earl Jones to do the show though, even if its only as guest shots.
It'll end up being Henry Winkler as the Emperor and Ray Ramano as the voice of Darth Vader or something.
Did anyone bother to read the article?
It says Lucas is directly involved in the first, but handing it off to others. He'll likely plot it out and hand off the direction and dialogue to others.
And constant fan speculation is Kevin Smith, so we should see 3 episodes when it debuts..
nihilance
04-26-2005, 07:56 AM
Maybe it will focus on Mon Mothma (or whatever her name is) and her leading of the rebel forces.
greg donovan
04-26-2005, 08:02 AM
if they could get jimmy smitts that would be awesome.
i would imagine he would be up for it.
especially if he looses the "election" on west wing.
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 08:03 AM
Did anyone bother to read the article?
It says Lucas is directly involved in the first, but handing it off to others. He'll likely plot it out and hand off the direction and dialogue to others.
And constant fan speculation is Kevin Smith, so we should see 3 episodes when it debuts..
He said he would direct the first one and then hand it off. by which I assume he meant others would direct the rest. He didn't direct Empire or Jedi, but he was just about as heavily involved as can be.
bartleby
04-26-2005, 08:10 AM
It'll end up being Henry Winkler as the Emperor and Ray Ramano as the voice of Darth Vader or something.
Only if they can get Mel Brooks to be be the showrunner. :D
SethInAz
04-26-2005, 08:11 AM
This needs to have Darth Vader as the central character IMO. Larger story arcs dealing with Obi-wan, Yoda, Luke, Leia, etc could be interspersed with one-shots of Vader and the Emperor hunting down other Jedi.
bartleby
04-26-2005, 08:13 AM
I have a feeling that this will be Captain Panaka's time to shine. ;)
Scottie
04-26-2005, 08:14 AM
Vader won't be the main character. The main character's gonna be... you know... a hero.
SethInAz
04-26-2005, 08:19 AM
He doesn't have to be the main character, just a prominent one. Like Sloan on Alias or something.
greg donovan
04-26-2005, 08:22 AM
Vader won't be the main character. The main character's gonna be... you know... a hero.
it could be about how several people evolve into heroes. vader SHOULD be the main villian. i hope its not a happy feel good show. i dont want it to be depressing but i dont want the ewoks and a little girl saving endor either.
a show set in this time period could go anywhere. it is too much fun to speculate about.
maybe it will deal w/what han was doing before he became a smuggler.
was he really in the imperial navy? or is that just fan specualtion and unofficial novels that lucas has reserved the right to erase from continuity?
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 08:25 AM
I would rather see Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money.
JayPee
04-26-2005, 08:37 AM
what i would like to see:
episodes having little to do with each other but sometimes colliding. self contained stories. an early bounty hunt with Boba Fett. Vader hunting down a remaining Jedi. Yoda finding a home in Degobah. Obi-Wan's new life as a hermit. i agree the possabilities are endless.
but like everyone else, i have to say, bring on some fucking Boba Fett.
SethInAz
04-26-2005, 08:47 AM
So kind of like Dark Horse's Tales and Star Wars: Empire series?
AAlgar
04-26-2005, 08:53 AM
Obi-Wan's new life as a hermit.
This would be some compelling television right here.
JayPee
04-26-2005, 09:29 AM
This would be some compelling television right here.
c'mon. you know what i mean. having him walk around mos isley, doing little good deeds here and there (like spider-man!). checking in on luke from time to time (as someone else mentioned) trying to become close to him but being pushed away by the Owens. stuff like that.
Chris McCarver
04-26-2005, 09:33 AM
This tells me more and more somebody needs to give the Battlestar Galactica treatment to Star Wars.
Won't happen, I know, but it needs to.
AAlgar
04-26-2005, 09:39 AM
c'mon. you know what i mean. having him walk around mos isley, doing little good deeds here and there (like spider-man!). checking in on luke from time to time (as someone else mentioned) trying to become close to him but being pushed away by the Owens. stuff like that.
It could definitely be interesting if they did it right. But you weren't exactly selling it the way you worded it. ;)
Bandit Chimera
04-26-2005, 09:43 AM
I'd rather see the birth of the rebel alliance and how for at least 18 years or so in between the 3rd and 4th movie they were fighting and gaining strength trying to quash the newly constructed empire.
I would LOVE to see a new jedi just for this show...who by the end of the show either falls off into nowhere (like in kotor) or who unfortunatly gets slain by the darkside saving the rebels somehow.
i think that might be better that obi "the drifter"
JayPee
04-26-2005, 10:02 AM
It could definitely be interesting if they did it right. But you weren't exactly selling it the way you worded it. ;)
yeah, you're totally right. Obi-Wan makes stew. Obi-Wan goes down to the DMV to have his name changed to Ben. Obi-Wan falls sleep in the bathtub. Obi-Wan uses Jedi powers to scare kids off his property.
Scottie
04-26-2005, 10:05 AM
The main character is likely to be a new character... I mean are we going to sit and watch Luke farm moisture for an hour each week? I hope it shows how the Force fell out of favor so quickly... it went from being used all over the place in the prequel trilogy to Han Solo not believing it even existed in ANH.
AAlgar
04-26-2005, 10:05 AM
yeah, you're totally right. Obi-Wan makes stew. Obi-Wan goes down to the DMV to have his name changed to Ben. Obi-Wan falls sleep in the bathtub. Obi-Wan uses Jedi powers to scare kids off his property.
:lol:
Not mine:
STAR WARS TV - PILOT EPISODE
PLOT SYNOPSIS - (Sitcom-with canned laughs) Yoda comes to Dagobah to hide from the Empire. He builds his hut and goes out to collect some food for the evening. What he doesn't know is when he returns his hut is inhabited by one hot Twilek chick (Unii) and a goofy Gungan (Wok Wok) with no place to live. Yoda reluctantly agrees to take them in. That's when the shananagins begin. The clumsy Wok Wok tries to cook and burns half the hut down. Unii is a party girl, so the hut is soon filled out and around with noisy aliens partying when Yoda comes home at night. They break stuff (including his lightsaber). Landlord Palpatine isn't happy with the problems either. Just when YODA's fed up he kicks them out. But being the nice guy Yoda is he takes them back(after Obi-Wan convinces him).
UNII will be played by (Lisa Kudrow)
WOK WOK will be played by (Micheal Richards)
It's called FORCE OF THREE.
The tagline is "He came to Dagobah to get a break from it ALL...What he got was ALL his stuff broken."
Bandit Chimera
04-26-2005, 10:18 AM
now thats funny
modungo
04-26-2005, 10:21 AM
I trust no source that can't count to 30.
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 10:22 AM
It'll probably have lots of Darth Vader not talking and lots of shots of the emperor from behind.
WinterRose
04-26-2005, 10:23 AM
And Lucas fumbles again... I'll watch the cartoon. But I hope the returned Firefly kicks his limited live action series' ass. An ongoing 100 episode plot? Vaguely interesting. I really wanted an Anthology show that got into EU characters and minor screen characters, with guest stars, guest writers, guest directors...
But in the end, we get a 100 episode series wedged between ep 3 and 4. No dramatic tension. We all know what happens already. The Jedi are doomed. Luke grows up on Tattooine to be a whiny Farmboy. Vader ascends to power. Amidala dies while Leia is very young. Yoda goes to hide on Dagobah in the shadow of a dead Sith. Obi-Wan hides on Tattooine, the farthest point from the bright center of the Galaxy, but where everything that influences it apparently tales place. Boba Fett grows up to be a badass. The empire takes 20 years to get to the point where Palpatine disbands the Corrupt Senate. Bail Organa is Doomed along with his planet. That's what you get in 100 episodes time. You all know how it turns out already. Lucas had all KINDS of stories already written and adaptable about hundreds of other characters people know and like. Hundreds of times to seat a 1 to 4 episode arc in that we've read stories from or played videogames from. Apparently, Lucas has decided to ignore all of that.
Lucas is a Dumbass. Officially. I HAVE NO LUCAS!!! (Rips shirt!!!)
Artie Pink
04-26-2005, 10:25 AM
I trust no source that can't count to 30.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/pppzone/ackbar.jpg
WinterRose
04-26-2005, 10:32 AM
Did anyone bother to read the article?
It says Lucas is directly involved in the first, but handing it off to others. He'll likely plot it out and hand off the direction and dialogue to others.
And constant fan speculation is Kevin Smith, so we should see 3 episodes when it debuts..
Kevin Smith doesn't have the balls. I love the man. But if he doesn't feel he can do a version of the Green Hornet, what makes people think he's the one for STAR WARS beyond the Death Star/Roofer conversation in Clerks? If offered the chance, I predict he will take it, then change his mind. J.M. Straczynski however... that's an entirely different ballgame...
Bah.. the worst thing they could do with the franchise is do extended universe stuff..
Look at what happened with the novels..
Same predictable plot, book after book.. blatant fanboy character shoehorned into the plot to provide some "threat" to the main characters.
Same thing with the ysilmarliamramalamadingdong..
It got so bad they had to start anew with a new publisher which firmly killed the novels by continuing with the same "here's a new threat that only NOW surfaced and oh, is coincidentally immune to Jedi" that the original publisher got trapped with.
Did we mention the intentional killing of a character just to stir up headlines?
Lame lame lame and you should consider yourself lucky we aren't subjected to endless pseudo jedis and smugglers and other characters that belong in the other sci-fi series.
This is why I hate the fan films.. I don't care whatsoever about those characters. They bore me to tears.
NickBurgess
04-26-2005, 11:07 AM
Bah.. the worst thing they could do with the franchise is do extended universe stuff..
Look at what happened with the novels..
Same predictable plot, book after book.. blatant fanboy character shoehorned into the plot to provide some "threat" to the main characters.
Same thing with the ysilmarliamramalamadingdong..
It got so bad they had to start anew with a new publisher which firmly killed the novels by continuing with the same "here's a new threat that only NOW surfaced and oh, is coincidentally immune to Jedi" that the original publisher got trapped with.
Did we mention the intentional killing of a character just to stir up headlines?
Lame lame lame and you should consider yourself lucky we aren't subjected to endless pseudo jedis and smugglers and other characters that belong in the other sci-fi series.
This is why I hate the fan films.. I don't care whatsoever about those characters. They bore me to tears.
That's exactly why I wouldn't want a non-Lucas show. Or a show in the first place really.
Kevin Smith doesn't have the balls. I love the man. But if he doesn't feel he can do a version of the Green Hornet, what makes people think he's the one for STAR WARS beyond the Death Star/Roofer conversation in Clerks? If offered the chance, I predict he will take it, then change his mind. J.M. Straczynski however... that's an entirely different ballgame...
What else does he have left to do?
Clerks 2?
He'd jump at Star Wars. Especially given his past history with Mark Hamill.
I can't see JMS doing it though.. look at the whole fit he did with Star Trek.. his way or no way.. Lucas won't play that as well he shouldn't. It'd be like Lucas saying "ILM should do a Babylon 5 movie"
I like JMS, but he's not the right guy for it. Smith's probably not either, depending on what direction they go with it.. if it's character stuff, he's a lock.
xyzzy
04-26-2005, 11:15 AM
Bah.. the worst thing they could do with the franchise is do extended universe stuff..
Look at what happened with the novels..
Same predictable plot, book after book.. blatant fanboy character shoehorned into the plot to provide some "threat" to the main characters.
Same thing with the ysilmarliamramalamadingdong..
It got so bad they had to start anew with a new publisher which firmly killed the novels by continuing with the same "here's a new threat that only NOW surfaced and oh, is coincidentally immune to Jedi" that the original publisher got trapped with.
Did we mention the intentional killing of a character just to stir up headlines?
Lame lame lame and you should consider yourself lucky we aren't subjected to endless pseudo jedis and smugglers and other characters that belong in the other sci-fi series.
This is why I hate the fan films.. I don't care whatsoever about those characters. They bore me to tears.
I only read Zahn's trilogy and I enjoyed it. I thought that Grand Admiral Thrawn made a good villain.
ChrisCollins
04-26-2005, 11:18 AM
The main character is likely to be a new character... I mean are we going to sit and watch Luke farm moisture for an hour each week? I hope it shows how the Force fell out of favor so quickly... it went from being used all over the place in the prequel trilogy to Han Solo not believing it even existed in ANH.
Thats the power of a dictatorship. All they have to do is kill all the Jedi and make it illegal to practice Jedi teachings and start rounding up people that disagree, and pretty soon people will get the message. Admitedly 20 years is a pretty short time to forget it entirely, but for some kid like Han growing up in the outer territories (Correlia I think), he never got any help from a Jedi. Hell, maybe he's never even seen one. And even if he had why would he believe the stories. If they were so all powerful, how could they let themselves be whiped out so easily.
Yeah I know I'm just covering for one of Lucas' many inconsistencies, can I get a no-prize. :p
nihilance
04-26-2005, 11:19 AM
Yeah I know I'm just covering for one of Lucas' many inconsistencies, can I get a no-prize. :p
I think you've earned it...but you have to get it from Lucas himself...he stores them in his necksack.
I only read Zahn's trilogy and I enjoyed it. I thought that Grand Admiral Thrawn made a good villain.
Thrawn would be a good villian, but it violates everything we saw up to that point.
Technically, the same thing with Xizor, but I'm a little more accepting of him as he's not a direct "employee" per se..
nihilance
04-26-2005, 11:22 AM
Thrawn would be a good villian, but it violates everything we saw up to that point.
Technically, the same thing with Xizor, but I'm a little more accepting of him as he's not a direct "employee" per se..
I always figured Lucas would try doing a CGI movie of Shadows of the Empire. He could get all the original voices to do the characters. The only person he would have balked is frozen in carbonite the entire time.
Scottie
04-26-2005, 11:32 AM
Thats the power of a dictatorship. All they have to do is kill all the Jedi and make it illegal to practice Jedi teachings and start rounding up people that disagree, and pretty soon people will get the message. Admitedly 20 years is a pretty short time to forget it entirely, but for some kid like Han growing up in the outer territories (Correlia I think), he never got any help from a Jedi. Hell, maybe he's never even seen one. And even if he had why would he believe the stories. If they were so all powerful, how could they let themselves be whiped out so easily.
Yeah I know I'm just covering for one of Lucas' many inconsistencies, can I get a no-prize. :p
You would get a no-prize, but then you'd get it revoked for calling Corellia part of the "outer territories." Corellia is clearly one of the Core Worlds. ;) :p
It'll probably have lots of Darth Vader not talking and lots of shots of the emperor from behind.
Well, the way you describe it, I can't blame Vader for not talking. Probably the only way to get through that situation is to black out entirely and start repressing the memories altogether. Until maybe twenty years later, anyway, when his psychologist gives him a doll and asks to be shown where the dirty old man touched him.
xyzzy
04-26-2005, 11:54 AM
Thrawn would be a good villian, but it violates everything we saw up to that point.
Technically, the same thing with Xizor, but I'm a little more accepting of him as he's not a direct "employee" per se..
Maybe I'm not as versed on my Star Wars background as I should be, but what does his existence violate?
AAlgar
04-26-2005, 12:00 PM
Kevin Smith working with the SWU would be great.
"Take your death sticks somewhere else, cancer merchant!"
Maybe I'm not as versed on my Star Wars background as I should be, but what does his existence violate?
The whole prejudice thing..
No aliens, no women, etc..
Basically, the crusty-old-white-guy-network..
Which is one reason why I hate Mara Jade and think Thrawn doesn't quite work either.
I mean, he goes to enslave the Wookies and everything else.. to say further would spoil some of EPISODE III..
The novel sums up his disgust at working with alien races and what little he thinks of them.
I can see him manipulating/dealing with someone like Black Sun, but I don't see having two important players that go against that policy is all.
Wagon
04-26-2005, 12:12 PM
The whole prejudice thing..
No aliens, no women, etc..
Basically, the crusty-old-white-guy-network..
Which is one reason why I hate Mara Jade and think Thrawn doesn't quite work either.
I mean, he goes to enslave the Wookies and everything else.. to say further would spoil some of EPISODE III..
The novel sums up his disgust at working with alien races and what little he thinks of them.
I can see him manipulating/dealing with someone like Black Sun, but I don't see having two important players that go against that policy is all.
they kind of explain that in the novels that deal with Thrawn, though... that's why he was in a command SO far from the Empire that he could survive it's defeat...
I always looked at Thrawn as a tool the Emperor used... he recognized his talent, and wanted to use what he could offer, but didn't want to have him around otherwise...
they kind of explain that in the novels that deal with Thrawn, though... that's why he was in a command SO far from the Empire that he could survive it's defeat...
I always looked at Thrawn as a tool the Emperor used... he recognized his talent, and wanted to use what he could offer, but didn't want to have him around otherwise...
Yeah, but still.. to have him so highly ranked...
Like I said, I can see him using him, but I don't see it being so integral..
People had the same problems with the female Admiral in the wormhole too..
It just doesn't fit in well with the series..
Why have your best general hidden away far across the galaxy where he can be useful?
xyzzy
04-26-2005, 12:18 PM
The whole prejudice thing..
No aliens, no women, etc..
Basically, the crusty-old-white-guy-network..
Which is one reason why I hate Mara Jade and think Thrawn doesn't quite work either.
I mean, he goes to enslave the Wookies and everything else.. to say further would spoil some of EPISODE III..
The novel sums up his disgust at working with alien races and what little he thinks of them.
I can see him manipulating/dealing with someone like Black Sun, but I don't see having two important players that go against that policy is all.
I guess you don't buy Zahn's explanation that Thrawn was just too good of a resource to pass up, despite his alienness? Certainly, he kicked enough ass to merit it. And the rest of the story is consistent, as I recall that none of the non-main characters even believed that an alien could rise to that rank in the prejudiced empire.
I dunno, I think I just like the character enough that those inconsistencies don't bother me.
xyzzy
04-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Yeah, but still.. to have him so highly ranked...
Like I said, I can see him using him, but I don't see it being so integral..
People had the same problems with the female Admiral in the wormhole too..
It just doesn't fit in well with the series..
Why have your best general hidden away far across the galaxy where he can be useful?
I think he was sent on some mission to the outer rim because he was in disgrace for sassing the Emperor.
Blake Sims
04-26-2005, 12:21 PM
id probably try to watch it
I guess you don't buy Zahn's explanation that Thrawn was just too good of a resource to pass up, despite his alienness? Certainly, he kicked enough ass to merit it. And the rest of the story is consistent, as I recall that none of the non-main characters even believed that an alien could rise to that rank in the prejudiced empire.
I dunno, I think I just like the character enough that those inconsistencies don't bother me.
Yeah, like I said, I think he's a decent character, although he went down quite easily.
If he didn't have the deus-ex-machina, er ysimilarli he'd be nothing though..
I didn't see any real strategy that would make him valuable enough to be the equivalent of a four star general.
As far as the other characters noting it.. it felt too much like the author making excuses for inconsistency.. kinda like Obi Wan saying what he said was true, from a point of view.. sure, it works but ...
Ah well.. no big deal :)
BriRedfern
04-26-2005, 12:33 PM
So... it'll be Star Wars only with commercial breaks and crappier special effects? Eh. Just leave it alone.
Special effects on TV aren't always crappy these days. And TiVo means no commercials. This is great news.
BriRedfern
04-26-2005, 12:38 PM
I'd rather see the birth of the rebel alliance and how for at least 18 years or so in between the 3rd and 4th movie they were fighting and gaining strength trying to quash the newly constructed empire.
I would LOVE to see a new jedi just for this show...who by the end of the show either falls off into nowhere (like in kotor) or who unfortunatly gets slain by the darkside saving the rebels somehow.
i think that might be better that obi "the drifter"
This is the most likely candidate right here.
V-Man
04-26-2005, 12:38 PM
Cool!!!
Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
04-26-2005, 01:37 PM
Any talk about whether this will be on network tv or cable?
bartleby
04-26-2005, 01:40 PM
Any talk about whether this will be on network tv or cable?
You think 'Mister THE O.C.' is gonna shop his show around to other networks? Nah, this sucker's going straight to Fox.
Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
04-26-2005, 01:43 PM
You think 'Mister THE O.C.' is gonna shop his show around to other networks? Nah, this sucker's going straight to Fox.
shit.
Mr. Nobody
04-26-2005, 01:52 PM
I'd sort of hope they avoid using established characters in any major capacity as their ultimate fates are mainly tied up into the films and it seems to me that would cause the series to be overshadowed somewhat. Also guys like Darth Vader just aren't as cool if you overuse them. Would much rather the focus be on new or minor characters from the movies who have more room to develop and could possibly be killed off if the story called for it.
Also, if i had my way, they'd hand the series over to the people who did Farscape, as i always kind of thought that show captured a lot of the qualities i liked about Star Wars.
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