View Full Version : So what are you on the verge of dropping
sto110
04-23-2005, 05:59 PM
Here is my list, some I dont know why i havent yet:
Uncanny X-Men The writting is just all over the place and the art is just ok
Ultimate X-Men (havent really been into it since bendis left, although the last issue with professor x was good)
Spectacular (didnt matter in the end) :Punch:
Ultimate Secret (i got the first series and was less then impressed, seemed they could have done it in 3-4 issues) maybe ill drop this and pick up the trades
Ultimate FF Although this storyline is keeping my interest the last one was just OK. Ill wait and see what is in store for the next one and make my decision
Superman - It WILL be dropped next issue, this stuff was drawn out and made no sense, i really dont get the guys writting, and i didnt like his batman stuff.....
X-men - Love the art but the story better have a good payoff because right now i am missing the last guy lol
Well that is it for now if i think about something ill add it. Please give a short reason if you can.....
Andrew j
04-23-2005, 06:02 PM
Already dropped Ultimate X-men
If it wasn't for the great cliffhanger I would have dropped Incredible Hulk
going to drop MK Spider-man
anThONY_s
04-23-2005, 06:22 PM
Adventures of Superman
Ulimate Fantastic Four
Captain America
Wonder Woman
All about to be dropped. I followed the writers onto each of these books and, while good story wise, I'm finding it hard to give a rat's ass about the characters. Also close to the chopping block: New Avengers. Just not my Avengers.
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 06:28 PM
Superman. GONE!
Supajoe
04-23-2005, 06:29 PM
Ultimate X-men and Teen Titans for me.
Sir Erudite Gav
04-23-2005, 06:31 PM
Nightwing. I stopped buying it a year or two back but picked it up again for the Year One storyline and thought I'd stick around for the new issues. I love the art but I'm going to give the story a few more issues before I decide.
Bandit Chimera
04-23-2005, 06:34 PM
A load in the toliet ?
GoddessOKay
04-23-2005, 06:37 PM
A load in the toliet ?
i do not really know this man :no:.
matthew spatola
04-23-2005, 06:37 PM
MK Spider-Man
outsiders
Superman/Batman
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 06:37 PM
Nothing on my list right now is "on the verge". The change in creative teams right now has made me drop a few books without thinking hard about it: Superman, MK Spider-Man (picked up the first ish of Hudlin's arc, eeeyuck) Some books that I liked I don't really dig anymore, so I dropped: District X, New Thunderbolts.
Mister Mets
04-23-2005, 06:40 PM
MK Spider-Man
Young Avengers
Ultimate X-Men
Fantastic Four
Amazing Spider-Man
Incredible Hulk
Superman (when lee & Azzarello leave)
Flash
Teen Titans
Green Arrow
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 06:42 PM
How can anyone drop The Flash? Especially now that the Rogue War has started. Blasphemy.
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 06:42 PM
A load in the toliet ?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/upload/thumb/a/a8/300px-Boeing_B-52_dropping_bombs.jpg
sto110
04-23-2005, 06:43 PM
Those who say teen titans... why? I just started to pick this up and it looks real good, let me know what you dont like about it.... i dont know that much about the DCU to begin with...
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 06:44 PM
http://commons.wikimedia.org/upload/thumb/a/a8/300px-Boeing_B-52_dropping_bombs.jpg
http://images.buch.de/06/09/25/06092560_b003.jpg
Gregory
04-23-2005, 06:44 PM
Daredevil. Because it has lately turned into a comic wherein the character appears as opposed to a comic he stars in. I know Decalogue is the home stretch, but a group of people swapping DD stories is just another way to write ABOUT the character instead of writing the character itself. To be honest, I would have been more interested had the comic been about DD's existing and diverse supporting cast swapping stories about him.
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 06:48 PM
http://images.buch.de/06/09/25/06092560_b003.jpg
http://www.krunkthat.com/images/uploads/kd_gumdrops.jpg
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 06:53 PM
http://www.krunkthat.com/images/uploads/kd_gumdrops.jpg
http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/lsd/images/lsd_blotter_05.gif
(It's LSD.)
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 07:00 PM
http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/lsd/images/lsd_blotter_05.gif
(It's LSD.)
http://onlineathens.com/images/111504/12350_512.jpg
greg donovan
04-23-2005, 07:02 PM
my pants!
:moon:
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 07:05 PM
http://onlineathens.com/images/111504/12350_512.jpg
http://dddo.cocolog-nifty.com/test/tophist/a040220drop0567.jpg
changingshades
04-23-2005, 07:09 PM
Birds of Prey
Daredevil
JLA
JLA: Classified
Powers
Pulse
Superman/Batman-Honestly, I have no idea why I am still picking this up.
Thunderbolts
Ultimate FF-I'm only picking this up because I have every issue of the Ultimate universe so I feel I need to pick this up.
Uncanny X-men& X-men-same reason as UFF, I have Xmen 1 and UXM199 onward, so its more habit than anything else, it's a horrible reason to pick something up because of habit, so maybe eventually.
Jose Payan
04-23-2005, 07:14 PM
District X since Ismael got replaced by some alternate universe asshole.
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 07:16 PM
http://dddo.cocolog-nifty.com/test/tophist/a040220drop0567.jpg
http://www.hobbytheater.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_e_r_curtain.jpg
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 07:18 PM
http://www.hobbytheater.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_e_r_curtain.jpg
http://www.merth.com/media/008.jpg
Deli_Ham_Diggsy
04-23-2005, 07:19 PM
Ultimate FF
Thunderbolts
Wolverine (although the last issue did good)
All of the Seven Soldiers minis
Matt Higgins
04-23-2005, 07:22 PM
incredible hulk
x-men titles (minus wolverine)
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 07:23 PM
http://www.merth.com/media/008.jpg
http://www.codeproject.com/shell/ExplorerDragDrop/ExplorerDragDrop8.gif
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 07:27 PM
http://clerccenter.gallaudet.edu/AcademicTeams/Team6-7-8/images/eggdrop.jpg
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 07:31 PM
http://www.sdsoldiers.com/Mvc-GALLOWS.jpg
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 07:32 PM
http://www.justbynature.com/images/Blue%20Bottle%20with%20Dropper.jpg
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 07:35 PM
http://faculty.smu.edu/sshepher/maildrop.jpg
Blake Sims
04-23-2005, 07:35 PM
i dunno im liking all the titles i buy so i dont think i have any im gonna drop any
Boris the Blade
04-23-2005, 07:36 PM
http://www.chez.com/infofilm/Data/Jaquettes2/D/drop_zone/drop_zone_av.jpg
Rivka
04-23-2005, 07:45 PM
Well that is it for now if i think about something ill add it. Please give a short reason if you can.....
My problem isn't what I'm dropping, but what's dropping me !
I love Claremont's EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X. Marvel is pulling the rug out from both these books. I don't think it's fair, and I feel like I was conned by Marvel and Mr. Quesada, who promised a more enlightened attitude towards fans.
What I mean is, I know a lot of fans don't like EXCALIBUR and don't like the character Bishop, and don't share my passion and respect for Claremont's characterization of Magneto, but a lot of fans do! Marvel should have said, to those who don't like those books, "Don't read them." "We have other books for you." As for me, I don't like the Ultimate Universe, nor do I like darker or more violent books in general, so I don't have to read those. "Reload" meant to me, that Marvel was at last acknowledging the broad range of fans, and would try to please more people. They would stop trying to appease the rabid fanboys who, if they don't like a character or writer, or they don't like a book, don't want anyone else to enjoy that character or writer or book either.
And despite my deep appreciation of Mr. Bendis' talents, and despite my belief that he is an honorable and honest man, his avowal that he wouldn't ever step in and disrupt another writer's plans or book, seems bogus. Claremont's plans for Magneto were completely yanked away from him; and I don't care how "cooperative" he was about it, he has a family to support you know. And now it seems to me that EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X are being killed for "House of M." EXCALIBUR had a chance to catch on! It's almost unprecedented, that a writer like Claremont gets his starring character pulled out of his book, his entire premise for EXCALIBUR is destroyed, and a book that still has 50,000 fans (despite fanboy retailers in some cases refusing to even carry the book) is put on "hiatus" but can't possibly return in the same way, if it returns at all. The handwriting seems to be on the wall for Magneto and EXCALIBUR. And Bishop and DISTRICT X.
So, a lot of fansboys will say, "Good riddance," but that's the entire point. A lot of us are very upset, too. I'm certainly not preordering "House of M" until I'm reassured that EXCALIBUR is returning in the fall, and Bishop is returning to the X-Universe (he's one of my favorite characters), and above all, Magneto goes back to Claremont.
The fans of the "villain" Magneto have had their way for years and years, those of us (and a lot of us are female, too) who love the complex Byronic Magneto and the Magneto/Xavier relationship in EXCALIBUR, Marvel couldn't give us half a freakin' year before they destroyed what Claremont was trying to do.
So, that's why I say, my favorite books are being taken away from me, not the other way around. I was perfectly happy with Marvel, and not planning on dropping anything. Generally, I don't care about a summer event-crossover that borrows my favorite characters, but puts them back where they're supposed to be by fall. But that's not what's happening with EXCALIBUR and DISTRICT X.
Opus Croakus
04-23-2005, 07:48 PM
http://www.chez.com/infofilm/Data/Jaquettes2/D/drop_zone/drop_zone_av.jpg
??? All I got is the dreaded RED X. ???
But here ya go anyway:
http://www.cardshark.com/images_magic/unhinged/name_dropping.jpg
King of Mars
04-23-2005, 08:28 PM
I'm on the verge of dropping Superman/Batman. This book has been a complete disappointment from the start.
The Human Target
04-23-2005, 08:42 PM
My problem isn't what I'm dropping, but what's dropping me !
I love Claremont's EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X. Marvel is pulling the rug out from both these books. I don't think it's fair, and I feel like I was conned by Marvel and Mr. Quesada, who promised a more enlightened attitude towards fans.
What I mean is, I know a lot of fans don't like EXCALIBUR and don't like the character Bishop, and don't share my passion and respect for Claremont's characterization of Magneto, but a lot of fans do! Marvel should have said, to those who don't like those books, "Don't read them." "We have other books for you." As for me, I don't like the Ultimate Universe, nor do I like darker or more violent books in general, so I don't have to read those. "Reload" meant to me, that Marvel was at last acknowledging the broad range of fans, and would try to please more people. They would stop trying to appease the rabid fanboys who, if they don't like a character or writer, or they don't like a book, don't want anyone else to enjoy that character or writer or book either.
And despite my deep appreciation of Mr. Bendis' talents, and despite my belief that he is an honorable and honest man, his avowal that he wouldn't ever step in and disrupt another writer's plans or book, seems bogus. Claremont's plans for Magneto were completely yanked away from him; and I don't care how "cooperative" he was about it, he has a family to support you know. And now it seems to me that EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X are being killed for "House of M." EXCALIBUR had a chance to catch on! It's almost unprecedented, that a writer like Claremont gets his starring character pulled out of his book, his entire premise for EXCALIBUR is destroyed, and a book that still has 50,000 fans (despite fanboy retailers in some cases refusing to even carry the book) is put on "hiatus" but can't possibly return in the same way, if it returns at all. The handwriting seems to be on the wall for Magneto and EXCALIBUR. And Bishop and DISTRICT X.
So, a lot of fansboys will say, "Good riddance," but that's the entire point. A lot of us are very upset, too. I'm certainly not preordering "House of M" until I'm reassured that EXCALIBUR is returning in the fall, and Bishop is returning to the X-Universe (he's one of my favorite characters), and above all, Magneto goes back to Claremont.
The fans of the "villain" Magneto have had their way for years and years, those of us (and a lot of us are female, too) who love the complex Byronic Magneto and the Magneto/Xavier relationship in EXCALIBUR, Marvel couldn't give us half a freakin' year before they destroyed what Claremont was trying to do.
So, that's why I say, my favorite books are being taken away from me, not the other way around. I was perfectly happy with Marvel, and not planning on dropping anything. Generally, I don't care about a summer event-crossover that borrows my favorite characters, but puts them back where they're supposed to be by fall. But that's not what's happening with EXCALIBUR and DISTRICT X.
:hulk:
Jonny Z
04-23-2005, 08:50 PM
names
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Lord Jermaine Retail
04-23-2005, 09:11 PM
Ultimate X-men and Teen Titans for me.
Teen Titans doesn't do anything for you? Tough room. I'm not even a Titans fan before this and I'm enjoying it. Maybe DC isn't your thing. Personally, I'd think hard before dropping anything DC that's Johns, Winnick, or Rucka right now.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-23-2005, 09:14 PM
Adventures of Superman
Ulimate Fantastic Four
Captain America
Wonder Woman
All about to be dropped. I followed the writers onto each of these books and, while good story wise, I'm finding it hard to give a rat's ass about the characters. Also close to the chopping block: New Avengers. Just not my Avengers.
Talk to me about Cap, WW, and Adv. What's wrong with these titles? What are you keeping up with if these are not up to par?
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-23-2005, 09:15 PM
MK Spider-Man
outsiders
Superman/Batman
I decided it was in fact time for S/B to go, but something always happend in Outsiders to keep me. Most recently, the Deathstroke thing.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-23-2005, 09:18 PM
MK Spider-Man
Young Avengers
Ultimate X-Men
Fantastic Four
Amazing Spider-Man
Incredible Hulk
Superman (when lee & Azzarello leave)
Flash
Teen Titans
Green Arrow
Young Avengers, Flash, Teen Titans? Its some times we live in when these are the comics that can't hold someone's attention. Oh well, they can't all be as engaging as Spawn.
CraigM
04-23-2005, 09:19 PM
.
:lol:
Craig
The Human Target
04-23-2005, 09:23 PM
Lord Retail is getting rage filled.
Captain Sensation
04-23-2005, 09:24 PM
someone has to say it...so i will
im dropping.....ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN
this arc has lacked everything that got me into the series (and back into comics after a 5 year sabatical) but lately its just stale to me. Dont get me wrong, the book still is good, but i feel like bendis is just putting stories together out of his ass. I cant accept that just because he is an acclaimed writer and writes stories that are better than most at marvel. He isnt writing up to his potential in my opinion and i think i got a little too attached to the book to begin with. So this book is getting dropped and maybe ill come back around for the trade for the next arc.
adventure metal
04-23-2005, 09:34 PM
Gone: Superman - I said I'd get the Azz/Lee story and I did. Now I'm done, thank goodness. The only superman comics I've ever bought....
On the bubble (brace yourself):
Ultimates - Not sure why, just losing interest
Ultimate Spider-Man - Each issue seems too short. Still lovin the art.
MTU - Not huge into the art, little faith that the series will be around long enough to pay off
Ex Machina - the political stuff is boring to me, but I am curious about the artifacts that drive people crazy
BronxRonin
04-23-2005, 09:39 PM
instead of offending any creators i'll post the things i collect everything else was dropped...too expensive to keep up anymore.
astonishing X-men/X-men/uncanny/runaways/ultimate ff/livewires/exiles/ultimates/wolverine/marvel team up/the marvel handbooks 2005
DC TT/exmachina/all star batman/greenlanternaction comics Gail Simone &Byrne (i can't lose)/planetary
Tales of the odd and Pat's book Armageddon
Wizard and newtype/anime insider... :tikitote:
Victor
04-23-2005, 09:53 PM
Superman for sure
Outsiders maybe
New Thunderbolts probably
Jacob Lyon Goddard
04-23-2005, 09:56 PM
Q&C
i've been following it since the beginning, but i've found that i'm no longer looking forward to it as much, for whatever reason. that and they can be a pain in the ass to track down if your not in a comic shop on wednesday
and i think i might have dropped DD without realizing it
Jacob Lyon Goddard
04-23-2005, 10:01 PM
and a lot of the creators who's books i followed dropped me
THB and Pop Gun War pretty much stopped when they started working for Marvel/DC
Stray Bullets' halted to a crawl a few years ago, and now there's no way in hell we'll see issue 40 by the end of the decade
that's right, i said it
Blake Sims
04-23-2005, 10:02 PM
and a lot of the creators who's books i followed dropped me
THB and Pop Gun War pretty much stopped when they started working for Marvel/DC
Stray Bullets' halted to a crawl a few years ago, and now there's no way in hell we'll see issue 40 by the end of the decade
that's right, i said it
what issue is he on now? late 30s right?
twigglet
04-23-2005, 11:24 PM
My problem isn't what I'm dropping, but what's dropping me !
I love Claremont's EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X. Marvel is pulling the rug out from both these books. I don't think it's fair, and I feel like I was conned by Marvel and Mr. Quesada, who promised a more enlightened attitude towards fans.
What I mean is, I know a lot of fans don't like EXCALIBUR and don't like the character Bishop, and don't share my passion and respect for Claremont's characterization of Magneto, but a lot of fans do! Marvel should have said, to those who don't like those books, "Don't read them." "We have other books for you." As for me, I don't like the Ultimate Universe, nor do I like darker or more violent books in general, so I don't have to read those. "Reload" meant to me, that Marvel was at last acknowledging the broad range of fans, and would try to please more people. They would stop trying to appease the rabid fanboys who, if they don't like a character or writer, or they don't like a book, don't want anyone else to enjoy that character or writer or book either.
And despite my deep appreciation of Mr. Bendis' talents, and despite my belief that he is an honorable and honest man, his avowal that he wouldn't ever step in and disrupt another writer's plans or book, seems bogus. Claremont's plans for Magneto were completely yanked away from him; and I don't care how "cooperative" he was about it, he has a family to support you know. And now it seems to me that EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X are being killed for "House of M." EXCALIBUR had a chance to catch on! It's almost unprecedented, that a writer like Claremont gets his starring character pulled out of his book, his entire premise for EXCALIBUR is destroyed, and a book that still has 50,000 fans (despite fanboy retailers in some cases refusing to even carry the book) is put on "hiatus" but can't possibly return in the same way, if it returns at all. The handwriting seems to be on the wall for Magneto and EXCALIBUR. And Bishop and DISTRICT X.
So, a lot of fansboys will say, "Good riddance," but that's the entire point. A lot of us are very upset, too. I'm certainly not preordering "House of M" until I'm reassured that EXCALIBUR is returning in the fall, and Bishop is returning to the X-Universe (he's one of my favorite characters), and above all, Magneto goes back to Claremont.
The fans of the "villain" Magneto have had their way for years and years, those of us (and a lot of us are female, too) who love the complex Byronic Magneto and the Magneto/Xavier relationship in EXCALIBUR, Marvel couldn't give us half a freakin' year before they destroyed what Claremont was trying to do.
So, that's why I say, my favorite books are being taken away from me, not the other way around. I was perfectly happy with Marvel, and not planning on dropping anything. Generally, I don't care about a summer event-crossover that borrows my favorite characters, but puts them back where they're supposed to be by fall. But that's not what's happening with EXCALIBUR and DISTRICT X.
Excalibur is dropping readers like it's no-ones buisness, recent numbers have it selling at 58th with 37,325 readers, Marvel will change anthing not making money, I can guarentee that interest in Excalibur will shoot up when the prelude to the HOM starts.
Also - To those who said they're on the verge of dropping Uncanny, DO IT! No offence to anyone who enjoys the series, but those who are reading because they have a complete run since ... are ruining the book. I currently can't stand Uncanny because of Claremonts writing, bt if enough people who are unsatisfied drop the book, perhaps their could be a change in writer.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 12:28 PM
Birds of Prey
Daredevil
JLA
JLA: Classified
Powers
Pulse
Superman/Batman-Honestly, I have no idea why I am still picking this up.
Thunderbolts
Ultimate FF-I'm only picking this up because I have every issue of the Ultimate universe so I feel I need to pick this up.
Uncanny X-men& X-men-same reason as UFF, I have Xmen 1 and UXM199 onward, so its more habit than anything else, it's a horrible reason to pick something up because of habit, so maybe eventually.
Consider keeping JLA for the Johns/ Heinberg run where Batman and MM face off against the other league members (probably Hal Jordan too). If you feel like you have to drop DD (why now of all times?), Powers, and Pulse, then there's not a whole lot I can say to you considering you buy Uncanny as long as the number on the cover is higher than the last one you got. Not meant as a cheap shot, but in this day and age, comics have to earn your readership with content, not count on people having issue # onward. I honestly believe that Uncanny X-men could have blank Zero-Hour pages and it would still sell higher than comics that actually try to entertain the reader. Comics cost too much to do things that way.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 12:31 PM
incredible hulk
x-men titles (minus wolverine)
Astonishing doesn't make the cut? To me if you like X-men that does not automatically equal to having to buy a whole bunch of titles that are of dubious quality. You can do that if you want to I mean. I like Marvel Universe X-men and I want to be able to buy a book with X-men I know in it that doesn't insult me or feel like a hackjob. So far Astonishing let's me do that.
Andrew j
04-24-2005, 12:36 PM
Q&C
i've been following it since the beginning, but i've found that i'm no longer looking forward to it as much, for whatever reason. that and they can be a pain in the ass to track down if your not in a comic shop on wednesday
I switched to trades on Q&C. That's how I started it and after a year or two of picking up the singles I realized that it reads so much better in one sitting .
It's still top notch though.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 01:29 PM
My problem isn't what I'm dropping, but what's dropping me !
I love Claremont's EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X. Marvel is pulling the rug out from both these books. I don't think it's fair, and I feel like I was conned by Marvel and Mr. Quesada, who promised a more enlightened attitude towards fans.
What I mean is, I know a lot of fans don't like EXCALIBUR and don't like the character Bishop, and don't share my passion and respect for Claremont's characterization of Magneto, but a lot of fans do! Marvel should have said, to those who don't like those books, "Don't read them." "We have other books for you." As for me, I don't like the Ultimate Universe, nor do I like darker or more violent books in general, so I don't have to read those. "Reload" meant to me, that Marvel was at last acknowledging the broad range of fans, and would try to please more people. They would stop trying to appease the rabid fanboys who, if they don't like a character or writer, or they don't like a book, don't want anyone else to enjoy that character or writer or book either.
And despite my deep appreciation of Mr. Bendis' talents, and despite my belief that he is an honorable and honest man, his avowal that he wouldn't ever step in and disrupt another writer's plans or book, seems bogus. Claremont's plans for Magneto were completely yanked away from him; and I don't care how "cooperative" he was about it, he has a family to support you know. And now it seems to me that EXCALIBUR, and DISTRICT X are being killed for "House of M." EXCALIBUR had a chance to catch on! It's almost unprecedented, that a writer like Claremont gets his starring character pulled out of his book, his entire premise for EXCALIBUR is destroyed, and a book that still has 50,000 fans (despite fanboy retailers in some cases refusing to even carry the book) is put on "hiatus" but can't possibly return in the same way, if it returns at all. The handwriting seems to be on the wall for Magneto and EXCALIBUR. And Bishop and DISTRICT X.
So, a lot of fansboys will say, "Good riddance," but that's the entire point. A lot of us are very upset, too. I'm certainly not preordering "House of M" until I'm reassured that EXCALIBUR is returning in the fall, and Bishop is returning to the X-Universe (he's one of my favorite characters), and above all, Magneto goes back to Claremont.
The fans of the "villain" Magneto have had their way for years and years, those of us (and a lot of us are female, too) who love the complex Byronic Magneto and the Magneto/Xavier relationship in EXCALIBUR, Marvel couldn't give us half a freakin' year before they destroyed what Claremont was trying to do.
So, that's why I say, my favorite books are being taken away from me, not the other way around. I was perfectly happy with Marvel, and not planning on dropping anything. Generally, I don't care about a summer event-crossover that borrows my favorite characters, but puts them back where they're supposed to be by fall. But that's not what's happening with EXCALIBUR and DISTRICT X.
Ok, Excalibur does not sell at my store. If anything House will give that title a boost. I liked Azrael. A lot. It didn't sell so it went away. Comics is a business and always has been despite the love and fandom. If something isn't working it isn't working. The reason Excalibur didn't fly too well at my store is we sold a ton of New X-men. Sold it to people who had been out of comics forever and to people who would never ever think of buying a book with an X on it. Then comes Excalibur with contradictory material to New X-men. There were people who bought the old Excalibur series onboard, but they soon realized Capt. Britain and Megan were not going to appear. See, I don't like Magneto frothing at the mouth like a mad dog. He's better than that (although he did plenty of crazy stuff in the 60s and 70s, let's not forget). But there are too many things I can't endorse about Excalibur. I like for my comics to make sense and not insult me or tell me the stuff I bought last week no longer applies. The whole premise is off to me. Xavier (who is apparently has Olympic class upper body strenght) hanging around burnt out Genosha looking for trouble. Finding Magneto and taking him at his word that anything crazy that may have been done recently was not him. It should look really, really bad for Xavier to be hanging out with Magneto. Bad for mutant business. But it doesn't. Despite fun character like Unus and tentacled Callisto, the book has failed to engage people at my store and I can't really say anything other than "expect some things leading into House of M soon so you may want to watch this one." There are fundemental elements awry with Exaclibur and until they change, it'll be on the fence.
sahid
04-24-2005, 02:26 PM
Black Panther
ASM
MK Spidey
As much as I love Alan Davis...Uncanny X-Men
Angel of Distraction
04-24-2005, 02:33 PM
ASM. I don't know why I continued after Sins Past but it is gone now.
Powers: Just not doing it for me. Can't put my finger on why.
anThONY_s
04-24-2005, 03:55 PM
Talk to me about Cap, WW, and Adv. What's wrong with these titles? What are you keeping up with if these are not up to par?
All three of these books are beautifully drawn and written. The characters are written well. I just don't like the characters all that much. If the writers of these books suddenly quit I wouldn't miss a beat dropping them.
Basically I've just recently asked myself if following writers was worth my $$. These are the three that might not make the cut.
Oh, and the crossovers in WW and ADVS don't help any.
Jacob Lyon Goddard
04-24-2005, 04:07 PM
and a lot of the creators who's books i followed dropped me
THB and Pop Gun War pretty much stopped when they started working for Marvel/DC
Stray Bullets' halted to a crawl a few years ago, and now there's no way in hell we'll see issue 40 by the end of the decade
that's right, i said it
what issue is he on now? late 30s right?
issue 38, i think
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 04:07 PM
All three of these books are beautifully drawn and written. The characters are written well. I just don't like the characters all that much. If the writers of these books suddenly quit I wouldn't miss a beat dropping them.
Basically I've just recently asked myself if following writers was worth my $$. These are the three that might not make the cut.
Oh, and the crossovers in WW and ADVS don't help any.
Well, WW needs a sales boost and a crossover is a way to do it. Thankfully, it wasn't too bad or intrusive on the existing storylines. What Adv crossover was there?
c.rob
04-24-2005, 04:07 PM
powers after issue 12
Jacob Lyon Goddard
04-24-2005, 04:13 PM
Sold it to people who had been out of comics forever and to people who would never ever think of buying a book with an X on it. Then comes Excalibur with contradictory material to New X-men.
*raises hand*
yeah, I'm not a x-men fan, and i don't know any x-men history past 1984
all i know about Excalibur is that it's pissing on the some of the only tights and capes stuff to come out in the last decade that I've enjoyed and on the work of a creator who's work i love and who devoted a few years to crafting this specific vision
that'll teach him to do work for hire
anThONY_s
04-24-2005, 04:13 PM
Well, WW needs a sales boost and a crossover is a way to do it. Thankfully, it wasn't too bad or intrusive on the existing storylines. What Adv crossover was there?
Next week's Captain Marvel crossover.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 04:22 PM
powers after issue 12
How do you know that you will drop something after 12? Are you just getting it for the #s? What if something happens? Just saying anything is possible.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 04:24 PM
Next week's Captain Marvel crossover.
I forgot about that. I won't be getting that either since its interupting Ruin. I understand why its happening though. Ian Chuchill is not my cup of tea. What is he doing to Lois Lane in those issues???
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 04:31 PM
*raises hand*
yeah, I'm not a x-men fan, and i don't know any x-men history past 1984
all i know about Excalibur is that it's pissing on the some of the only tights and capes stuff to come out in the last decade that I've enjoyed and on the work of a creator who's work i love and who devoted a few years to crafting this specific vision
that'll teach him to do work for hire
I'm sure he's not sweating it. But as someone who buys the material, if you're gonna pee on something tell me why its happening. I can deal with almost anything if its explained to me in a way that doesn't insult me.
Angel of Distraction
04-24-2005, 05:24 PM
All three of these books are beautifully drawn and written. The characters are written well. I just don't like the characters all that much. If the writers of these books suddenly quit I wouldn't miss a beat dropping them.
Basically I've just recently asked myself if following writers was worth my $$. These are the three that might not make the cut.
Oh, and the crossovers in WW and ADVS don't help any.
I see what he is saying. I don't care about X-Men all that much, or about Joss Whedon. I won't buy anything and everything with Whedon attached, but I am buying this because it is so well written...not because I care about the writer or characters particularly. I much prefer the first Claremont run and the pre-Claremont X-Men, notably the really early stuff. I am in a minority who loved the Lee and Thomas X-Men, back before they aquired all the stuff that fans identify them with today. However, if an unknown writer comes on this book, and does things with X-Men that are equally as good, I will probably buy it. With a few notable exceptions (BKV, Waid, DeMatteis) I don't follow characters or writers, I follow quality. This is the same deal with Cap, though with Cap the more I read of him the more I appreciate that he's a lot more than I originally percieved him to be.
And in an example of not following characters, The Ultimates would suck ass right now if it weren't for a few things:
1. A handful of interesting members, Like Thor, Henry Pym and Iron Man, and
2. A kick-ass story
Because let's face it, the characters are horrible human beings and I can ellicit no sympathy for them. If I could work up hatred for them, that would at least be something. Hatred means you care on some level. But I can't. I can only manage indifference. Some people may think Ultimate Black Widow and Ultimate Cap are cool; I think they are completely despicable human beings, whose actions are vile and ugly regardless of the reason for them, and thus if they got their heads taken off next issue I wouldn't care. Put this mix in the right plot, and it works: however, the second arc of the first series was a piece of shit wrapped in a good idea, specifically because fighting off aliens is a classicly heroic thing to do, and call me old-fashioned, but I see nothing heroic out of deriving no emotion from ordering a friend thrown out of a plane and not caring if he gets killed or not. This may be cool to some, to me, it is ugly, and I am collecting not for the characters or writer, but because the last two arcs have focused on two strong points and been great. But if I have to endure too many issues more of Captain Jackass America in lieu of the people with actual personalities, I'm likely to drop the book.
Rivka
04-24-2005, 05:35 PM
Ok, Excalibur does not sell at my store. If anything House will give that title a boost. I liked Azrael. A lot. It didn't sell so it went away.
I liked AZRAEL a lot too. It had a good run. EXCALIBUR hasn't been allowed to live out its lifespan. This stuff about a hiatus, and taking major characters out of the book, and forcing the writer to change most of his plans because a bunch of editors come up with a summer event idea, is not the same as supply and demand and simple consumerism. It's called gutting the book and then putting it on hiatus so it can breathe its last in obscurity.
Comics is a business and always has been despite the love and fandom. If something isn't working it isn't working.
Yeah, well, the business of comics in the direct market is not real-world based, in my opinion. Retailers can have a huge impact, and let their personal prejudices interfere. And that includes who they want to wander in to their comic shops, too. The total sales for EXCALIBUR that were printed in the comic, that included direct market sales, were way higher than the Diamond figures. Which means fans -- including a lot of girls and woman -- were buying it somewhere other than comic book shops.
The reason Excalibur didn't fly too well at my store is we sold a ton of New X-men. Sold it to people who had been out of comics forever and to people who would never ever think of buying a book with an X on it. Then comes Excalibur with contradictory material to New X-men. There were people who bought the old Excalibur series onboard, but they soon realized Capt. Britain and Megan were not going to appear. See, I don't like Magneto frothing at the mouth like a mad dog. He's better than that (although he did plenty of crazy stuff in the 60s and 70s, let's not forget). But there are too many things I can't endorse about Excalibur. I like for my comics to make sense and not insult me or tell me the stuff I bought last week no longer applies. The whole premise is off to me. Xavier (who is apparently has Olympic class upper body strenght) hanging around burnt out Genosha looking for trouble. Finding Magneto and taking him at his word that anything crazy that may have been done recently was not him. It should look really, really bad for Xavier to be hanging out with Magneto. Bad for mutant business. But it doesn't. Despite fun character like Unus and tentacled Callisto, the book has failed to engage people at my store and I can't really say anything other than "expect some things leading into House of M soon so you may want to watch this one." There are fundemental elements awry with Exaclibur and until they change, it'll be on the fence.
But your eloquent explanation above proves my point, in my opinion. You didn't like EXCALIBUR, you claim the people in your store are NEW X-MEN fans and thus are automatically opposed to EXCALIBUR on principle, and you say you can't "endorse" EXCALIBUR. Whereas I disagree very much with your analysis of the book. I think NEW X-MEN was the insult to my intelligence, and although EXCALIBUR started off too slowly (and that's my major complaint about the book) everything you mention as bothering you, I just don't agree with or see. And yes, Xavier is very strong in the upper body department -- it's a Shi'ar clone body, and he works out strenuously. And the whole point is, Xavier is giving Mags another chance. And no, it doesn't look bad for Charley to be hanging out with Magneto given Xavier's belief-system. And yes, Xavier might be a fool to be taking Magneto at his word, but that's the kind of man Xavier is -- he wants to believe the best about his old friend.
The bottom line for me is, what happened to EXCALIBUR -- or what seems to be happening -- is underhanded and unjust. Many people love this book, and the chief complaint I've heard, and why sales were dropping, is that there wasn't enough Magneto in it, and what Magneto there was, was a wimpy Mags, and Magneto fans were starting to fret. But Claremont was definitely moving in a cool and exciting direction with Xavier and Magneto, albeit at a glacial pace. The answer should have been, from Mr. Marts and then Ms. Moore, to have Claremont pick up the pace, pare things down. Instead, the entire framework of the book was removed, Claremont's plans were smashed, and the entire book was shoved into Brevoort's office with Stephanie Moore still editing; where Brevoort insists the book is "on hiatus" but where ROGUE also was sent to await its demise.
By the way, I'm very glad to hear you don't want to see Mags as a frothing at the mouth madman -- many, many readers, fans, followers of comics even those who don't like EXCALIBUR have said the same thing. I'm hoping Mr. Bendis agrees! Magneto is one of the most fascinating and psychologically complex characters in comics. He could have been a hero, he could choose another path, but he repeatedly fails to, despite Xavier's faith that someday, finally finally Magnus will choose self-restraint and replace fear with trust and hatred with compassion. It's the classic yin-yang symbol, the "light is the left-hand of darkness..." thing -- it's almost as if Magneto has to be Magneto in order for Xavier to be Xavier.
Bandit Chimera
04-24-2005, 05:54 PM
I liked AZRAEL a lot too. It had a good run. EXCALIBUR hasn't been allowed to live out its lifespan. This stuff about a hiatus, and taking major characters out of the book, and forcing the writer to change most of his plans because another writer or a bunch of editors come up with a summer event idea, is not the same as supply and demand and simple consumerism. It's called gutting the book and then putting it on hiatus so it can breathe its last in obscurity.
Yeah, well, the business of comics in the direct market is not real-world based, in my opinion. Retailers can have a huge impact, and let their personal prejudices interfere. And that includes who they want to wander in to their comic shops, too. The total sales for EXCALIBUR that were printed in the comic, that included direct market sales, were way higher than the Diamond figures. Which means fans -- including a lot of girls and woman -- were buying it somewhere other than comic book shops.
But your eloquent explanation above proves my point, in my opinion. You didn't like EXCALIBUR, you claim the people in your store are NEW X-MEN fans and thus are automatically opposed to EXCALIBUR on principle, and you say you can't "endorse" EXCALIBUR. Whereas I disagree very much with your analysis of the book. I think NEW X-MEN was the insult to my intelligence, and although EXCALIBUR started off too slowly (and that's my major complaint about the book) everything you mention as bothering you, I just don't agree with or see. And yes, Xavier is very strong in the upper body department -- it's a Shi'ar clone body, and he works out strenuously. And the whole point is, Xavier is giving Mags another chance. And no, it doesn't look bad for Charley to be hanging out with Magneto given Xavier's belief-system. And yes, Xavier might be a fool to be taking Magneto at his word, but that's the kind of man Xavier is -- he wants to believe the best about his old friend.
The bottom line for me is, what happened to EXCALIBUR -- or what seems to be happening -- is underhanded and unjust. Many people love this book, and the chief complaint I've heard, and why sales were dropping, is that there wasn't enough Magneto in it, and what Magneto there was, was a wimpy Mags, and Magneto fans were starting to fret. But Claremont was definitely moving in a cool and exciting direction with Xavier and Magneto, albeit at a glacial pace. The answer should have been, from Mr. Marts and then Ms. Moore, to have Claremont pick up the pace, pare things down. Instead, the entire framework of the book was removed, Claremont's plans were smashed, and the entire book was shoved into Brevoort's office with Stephanie Moore still editing; where Brevoort insists the book is "on hiatus" but where ROGUE also was sent to await its demise.
By the way, I'm very glad to hear you don't want to see Mags as a frothing at the mouth madman -- many, many readers, fans, followers of comics even those who don't like EXCALIBUR have said the same thing. I'm hoping Mr. Bendis agrees! Magneto is one of the most fascinating and psychologically complex characters in comics. He could have been a hero, he could choose another path, but he repeatedly fails to, despite Xavier's faith that someday, finally finally Magnus will choose self-restraint and replace fear with trust and hatred with compassion. It's the classic yin-yang symbol, the "light is the left-hand of darkness..." thing -- it's almost as if Magneto has to be Magneto in order for Xavier to be Xavier.
I have to agree with you on everything you've said excaliber (the new run) has been a book about character development, not crazy fights. Some things do seem out of place (like sugar man being on genosha for no reason) but overall the premice behind this book has alot of promise.
I hope house of M dosn't butcher exclaiber too bad but im also excited for the house of M. I want to see this upcoming even as a megrer of the best of both books and ideas not the destrustion of one for sales.
With that being said i really enjoyed the issue explaining Magnetos past a little better.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 05:58 PM
I have to agree with you on everything you've said excaliber (the new run) has been a book about character development, not crazy fights. Some things do seem out of place (like sugar man being on genosha for no reason) but overall the premice behind this book has alot of promise.
I hope house of M dosn't butcher exclaiber too bad but im also excited for the house of M. I want to see this upcoming even as a megrer of the best of both books and ideas not the destrustion of one for sales.
With that being said i really enjoyed the issue explaining Magnetos past a little better.
Where are we hearing that Claremont is forced to do anything? I thought he was fairly autonomous at Marvel. He's supposed to work with House rather than ignore it (he chose to ignore most of New X-men during X-treme X-men). I wish he could be forced to do a few things.
sto110
04-24-2005, 06:04 PM
i still want to know wtf was up with the xorn/magneto/not xorn/xorns brother thing
Bandit Chimera
04-24-2005, 06:06 PM
Where are we hearing that Claremont is forced to do anything? I thought he was fairly autonomous at Marvel. He's supposed to work with House rather than ignore it (he chose to ignore most of New X-men during X-treme X-men). I wish he could be forced to do a few things.
I don't remember saying in my post anything about people forcing Clarmont to write house of M. I said im hoping that this merger won't butcher what he was originally planing but nothing about anybody forcing anyone to write what they don't want to.
That was someone else :)
That being said i'll state i like both ideas and i hope they both work together well. (House of M and Excaliber)
Bandit Chimera
04-24-2005, 06:08 PM
i still want to know wtf was up with the xorn/magneto/not xorn/xorns brother thing
Me too. Id also like to know if nocture and jugernaught are ever comming back and if Annies son is really talking to a evil mutant.
But Marvel is forcing Golgotha and Psylockes resurection on us instead of answering the questions they originally brought up months ago (this is why i stopped buying x books. To many holes in the story)
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 06:10 PM
I don't remember saying in my post anything about people forcing Clarmont to write house of M. I said im hoping that this merger won't butcher what he was originally planing but nothing about anybody forcing anyone to write what they don't want to.
That was someone else :)
That being said i'll state i like both ideas and i hope they both work together well. (House of M and Excaliber)
I didn't say it was you in particular. What I want is for House to explain to me how Excalibur is even happening. The book alone has not done a sufficient job of that. I want to be able to say "Ok, that's why Magneto is like this here and nobody has said anything."
dEnny!
04-24-2005, 06:12 PM
Honestly...nothing right now.
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 06:13 PM
Me too. Id also like to know if nocture and jugernaught are ever comming back and if Annies son is really talking to a evil mutant.
But Marvel is forcing Golgotha and Psylockes resurection on us instead of answering the questions they originally brought up months ago (this is why i stopped buying x books. To many holes in the story)
Where did I see an image of Xavier looking in a mirror with the gray Juggernaut on the other side? I think Dr. Strange was there too. Some kind of Excalibur preview somewhere? Or did I imagine it....
adamgreenberger
04-24-2005, 06:15 PM
Where did I see an image of Xavier looking in a mirror with the gray Juggernaut on the other side? I think Dr. Strange was there too. Some kind of Excalibur preview somewhere? Or did I imagine it....
Was it in the House of M preview in the Young Guns sketch book??
adamgreenberger
04-24-2005, 06:16 PM
Me too. Id also like to know if nocture and jugernaught are ever comming back and if Annies son is really talking to a evil mutant.
But Marvel is forcing Golgotha and Psylockes resurection on us instead of answering the questions they originally brought up months ago (this is why i stopped buying x books. To many holes in the story)
Not to mention the ton of left over plotlines from the 80's and 90's...the third Summers brother anyone??
I also think that if Austen wrote it they might be just ignoring it since everyone seemed to hate his work on the X-Books.
Jason_BANNED
04-24-2005, 06:17 PM
Honestly...nothing right now.
Same here.
I just dropped a few books, but everything left on my list is pretty solid.
Jason
Bandit Chimera
04-24-2005, 06:25 PM
Where did I see an image of Xavier looking in a mirror with the gray Juggernaut on the other side? I think Dr. Strange was there too. Some kind of Excalibur preview somewhere? Or did I imagine it....
if you did i still have yet to see this. And as for you mags question i think Magnrto kinda answered it (though not well)
He sounded like he had just given up. After all the fighting he finnaly had a place to call home for mutant kind then it was violently shattered. He just gave up on living and went into recusion on Genosha for a while.
While he's there the Xorn/Magneto imposter shows up and screws up everything (Which in retrospect was really odd seeing as how the only super team trying to stop his enslavement of NYC was the X-men. Don't you think since the Avengers, FF and Spidy, who all live in New york, would have gotten involved? Also being a survivor of german deathcamps proabably would make magneto refrain from making them like the imposter did in New X-men.)
When thats over Excaliber started and Xavier met Mags there and they talked and thats about all i know fer now...i'd have to pull out old issues of excaliber to see if there was anything specific mentioned.
One thing i wasn't so sure about in the original issues of Excaliber though was the body of the imposter. They never showed what it looked like or did tests on it or anything. You think they would have swabbed some dna off a guy they thought was the most dangerous mutant on earth just to make sure he was dead.
Oh well i still like excaliber (but their are large plotholes in xmen books)
Rivka
04-24-2005, 06:37 PM
Where are we hearing that Claremont is forced to do anything? I thought he was fairly autonomous at Marvel. He's supposed to work with House rather than ignore it (he chose to ignore most of New X-men during X-treme X-men). I wish he could be forced to do a few things.
His plans were yanked out from under him, his plans for Xavier and Magneto were (in my words) smashed -- he posted thusly (although less dramatically) last December, over on the X-FAN message boards. As to what those plans were -- a friend of mine talked to him on the phone last year, and she wouldn't divulge details but she assured me that Claremont had some elaborate and fascinating plans, and was going to deal with the relationship of the two men, Xavier and Magneto. We saw the beginnings of Claremont's exploration of Magneto's psyche, in EXCALIBUR up through #10.
Claremont certainly isn't autonomous. He has storylines and whole story-arcs routinely yanked out from under him, it seems. I think he's trying to prove he's a team player or something -- but on the other hand, I think sometimes certain Marvel personnel are really pushing this interference too far. I wish he'd fought harder to keep EXCALIBUR intact, but then, he is a team player, and he has a family of young children to support, and he's got a great gig on UNCANNY X-MEN, so I guess he chose his priorities.
He is writing these final issues of EXCALIBUR, and is cooperating with "House of M" plans, but these aren't his plans, and this isn't what he had in mind for Xavier and Magneto.
Normally, under these circumstances -- the cross-over event -- creative staff are short-sheeted. It's been happening for years. Peter David finally left his great X-FACTOR run because he was tired of cross-overs interrupting his story-arcs. But in the past, after the cross-over was over, the characters returned to their respective books, and the creative staff continued where they left off. It's highly unusual for a book to be derailed, lose it's raison d'tre, lose one of its two main characters, and be put on hiatus after being sent to "Dubrovnik" in Brevoort's office to facilitate a summer "event."
Lord Jermaine Retail
04-24-2005, 06:51 PM
His plans were yanked out from under him, his plans for Xavier and Magneto were (in my words) smashed -- he posted thusly (although less dramatically) last December, over on the X-FAN message boards. As to what those plans were -- a friend of mine talked to him on the phone last year, and she wouldn't divulge details but she assured me that Claremont had some elaborate and fascinating plans, and was going to deal with the relationship of the two men, Xavier and Magneto. We saw the beginnings of Claremont's exploration of Magneto's psyche, in EXCALIBUR up through #10.
Claremont certainly isn't autonomous. He has storylines and whole story-arcs routinely yanked out from under him, it seems. I think he's trying to prove he's a team player or something -- but on the other hand, I think sometimes certain Marvel personnel are really pushing this interference too far. I wish he'd fought harder to keep EXCALIBUR intact, but then, he is a team player, and he has a family of young children to support, and he's got a great gig on UNCANNY X-MEN, so I guess he chose his priorities.
He is writing these final issues of EXCALIBUR, and is cooperating with "House of M" plans, but these aren't his plans, and this isn't what he had in mind for Xavier and Magneto.
Normally, under these circumstances -- the cross-over event -- creative staff are short-sheeted. It's been happening for years. Peter David finally left his great X-FACTOR run because he was tired of cross-overs interrupting his story-arcs. But in the past, after the cross-over was over, the characters returned to their respective books, and the creative staff continued where they left off. It's highly unusual for a book to be derailed, lose it's raison d'tre, lose one of its two main characters, and be put on hiatus after being sent to "Dubrovnik" in Brevoort's office to facilitate a summer "event."That's great but telling the story of the relationship between two men is not the thing to push AFTER one of those men got his head cut off and no satisfactory explaination was ever given. That just can't work so soon after one thing was on the shelf. If Eve of Destruction and New X-men had not happened, then this conversation would not be happening. One thing just doesn't line up with what folks just bought. So it should have been delayed a little longer or something. Claremont and the X-men editors must accept some of the blame if Excalibur is not working out.
~Hernandez~
04-24-2005, 08:23 PM
Uncanny & New X-men
alexlannin
04-24-2005, 08:24 PM
Every Bendis title-HE GETS GORILLAZ CDS BEFORE THEY'RE RELEASED...FUCKER
:)
Boris the Blade
04-24-2005, 08:26 PM
I never realized it until recently, but I've got about 60 books on my pull list, and more are being added (Outsiders just recently).
alexlannin
04-24-2005, 08:27 PM
I never realized it until recently, but I've got about 60 books on my pull list, and more are being added (Outsiders just recently).
What kind of discount do you get?
Boris the Blade
04-24-2005, 08:28 PM
What kind of discount do you get?
New books at US cover price ($2.25-$3 canadian, so around 30%.)
DrMachine
04-24-2005, 08:29 PM
I'm going to revise my pull list quite drastically...haven't decided what I actually want to keep and drop though
Schroedingers Cat
04-24-2005, 08:30 PM
Nothing.
I have been fine tuning my pull list for a while now and have gotten it down to a nice pile of books that I love to read.
Jim
alexlannin
04-24-2005, 08:30 PM
New books at US cover price ($2.25-$3 canadian, so around 30%.)
Cool, it adds up!
do you go through an online service or through a local shop?
Boris the Blade
04-24-2005, 08:33 PM
Cool, it adds up!
do you go through an online service or through a local shop?
Local shop.
Mike Haseloff
04-24-2005, 08:34 PM
I'm starting to drop all kinds of Marvel books for two reasons, both a little flimsy in nature.
The first is bitter protest against the cancellation of New Invaders. :(
The second is the price. DC's books are cheaper, and when I've only got $10 to spend, I'd rather grab a Batman and a Superman and be happy, than buy a Wolverine and have a bunch of change rattling up against my balls.
DrMachine
04-24-2005, 08:37 PM
I think I'm going to cut my list down to (from Marvel) still haven't decided on the DC books I regularly buy
New Avengers
Astonishing Xmen
Uncanny Xmen (cause I actually like it)
Powers
DD
Ult Spidey
Ultimates
Boris the Blade
04-24-2005, 08:38 PM
I'm starting to drop all kinds of Marvel books for two reasons, both a little flimsy in nature.
The first is bitter protest against the cancellation of New Invaders. :(
The second is the price. DC's books are cheaper, and when I've only got $10 to spend, I'd rather grab a Batman and a Superman and be happy, than buy a Wolverine and have a bunch of change rattling up against my balls.
Wolverine is one of the cheap books ($2.25 US I believe).
Which Marvel books're you buying that cost more than five bucks? You in Canadia or the Yoo Ess of Aye?
Pat Loika
04-24-2005, 08:39 PM
I dropped every book that comes out steadily in TPB, and I mainly pick up singles for indy or image books, and some Marvel/DC stuff that needed the extra sale.
P.
Mike Haseloff
04-24-2005, 08:40 PM
Wolverine is one of the cheap books ($2.25 US I believe).
Which Marvel books're you buying that cost more than five bucks? You in Canadia or the Yoo Ess of Aye?Australia, where in local stores prices are roughly double after shipping.
Of the books they have, most Marvel are $5.95 and most DC are $4.95.
However, the real cake taker is Batman/Superman, which is $7.95.
Comic shops are a little more expensive than that again, but I don't mind because I've been going since I was a little kid and like to be loyal, and in turn, get discount for that loyalty.
alexlannin
04-24-2005, 08:41 PM
Australia, where in local stores prices are roughly double after shipping.
Of the books they have, most Marvel are $5.95 and most DC are $4.95.
However, the real cake taker is Batman/Superman, which is $7.95.
Comic shops are a little more expensive than that again, but I don't mind because I've been going since I was a little kid and like to be loyal, and in turn, get discount for that loyalty.
Wow, that's a lot in comparison, thanks for keeping the hobby going down under!
Boris the Blade
04-24-2005, 08:43 PM
What's minimum hourly wage like in Australia?
Mike Haseloff
04-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Wow, that's a lot in comparison, thanks for keeping the hobby going down under!Well, I'm talking Australian dollars, rather than a direct conversion, so it's not as bad as it sounds.
It's pretty tough though.
I mean, I remember only about... well, okay, ten years ago, complaining about a book being $3.50 here.
God, I don't even want to think about the days of $1.95!
Pat Loika
04-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Australia, where in local stores prices are roughly double after shipping.
Of the books they have, most Marvel are $5.95 and most DC are $4.95.
However, the real cake taker is Batman/Superman, which is $7.95.
Comic shops are a little more expensive than that again, but I don't mind because I've been going since I was a little kid and like to be loyal, and in turn, get discount for that loyalty.
It costs that much in the Philippines, too. When I lived there I paid ridiculous amounts of money for my books...and that was in the $1.50-1.75 era...
P.
Mike Haseloff
04-24-2005, 08:48 PM
It costs that much in the Philippines, too. When I lived there I paid ridiculous amounts of money for my books...and that was in the $1.50-1.75 era...When you think about it like this, it's no wonder the kids are choosing other mediums over ours.
For the price of two comics I can go see a two hour movie.
For the price of ten comics I can go and buy a ten level video game.
sto110
04-25-2005, 04:32 AM
Was it in the House of M preview in the Young Guns sketch book??
It was a preview for Excalibur during the house of M crossover. Not sure who was doing the art but i was definitly not a fan of it.
Kman00001
04-25-2005, 05:20 AM
New Avengers after the Sentry arc.
I'm quite happy with everything else I get.
*raises hand*
yeah, I'm not a x-men fan, and i don't know any x-men history past 1984
all i know about Excalibur is that it's pissing on the some of the only tights and capes stuff to come out in the last decade that I've enjoyed and on the work of a creator who's work i love and who devoted a few years to crafting this specific vision
that'll teach him to do work for hireIts not the writers property but the companies. They can do what they want with them and they dont have to kiss any writers ass. He was paid for the work he did and that that. :sleepy:
dEnny!
04-25-2005, 05:48 AM
Its not the writers property but the companies. They can do what they want with them and they dont have to kiss any writers ass. He was paid for the work he did and that that. :sleepy:
Yeah, but it SUCKS! ;)
FF was dropped as of Waid's last issue
Trigger is dropped as of last issue, 'cause it's confusing and repetitive
DD is more than likely dropped after Bendis leaves, unless Brubaker and Lark take over...
I dropped X-Men and Uncanny about a year ago, and I feel damn good about it. They've sucked for years, they don't deserve my money.
UFF is more than likely dropped unless I'm blown away by Millars first issue. I don't care about the characters, and I havn't since the beginning. The only thing that kept me on board this long was Ellis.
sto110
04-25-2005, 07:02 AM
New Avengers after the Sentry arc.
I'm quite happy with everything else I get.
Why drop that after the Sentry arc, did you hear something about the followin arc that you dont like or are you just figuring that it will not be as good after the first year?
MIKE D
04-25-2005, 07:03 AM
I dropped MK Spider-Man after the Millar run.
Next up: 616 Fantastic Four. I'll give JMS some time to wow me, but if the first arc doesn't, I think I'm taking an extended break from it.
Pat Loika
04-25-2005, 07:06 AM
When you think about it like this, it's no wonder the kids are choosing other mediums over ours.
For the price of two comics I can go see a two hour movie.
For the price of ten comics I can go and buy a ten level video game.
Seriously! Back then I could take 4 friends to a movie in the Philippines over buying 1 comic book.
Man...I'm glad I moved here.
TyPierce
04-25-2005, 07:14 AM
Dropped MK Spidey as soon as Millar/Dodson were done with it.
My monthly list is pretty stripped down, so that's the only one I was sure I'd drop. I was thinking about dropping Detective to save a couple bucks, but each issue Lapham keeps impressing me and I keep coming back.
Gene Reginato
04-25-2005, 08:29 AM
Seriously! Back then I could take 4 friends to a movie in the Philippines over buying 1 comic book.
Man...I'm glad I moved here.
Back when I bought untranslated american comics I could go to the movies twice with the price of ONE comic. Damn currency conversions and import taxes!
Blandy vs Terrorism
04-25-2005, 08:30 AM
It.
And imma drop it like it's hot.
Kman00001
04-25-2005, 09:25 AM
Why drop that after the Sentry arc, did you hear something about the followin arc that you dont like or are you just figuring that it will not be as good after the first year?
So far the series has left me feeling very empty. 4 issues in and I'm not "feeling" it yet. Sentry was the main draw for me...so once his arc is done, I'm outta here. I was going to stick with it for one additional arc, but Marvel's upcoming price hike has convinced me to spend my dollars on something I might like more.
PeterSparker
04-25-2005, 10:20 AM
and i think i might have dropped DD without realizing it
Without realizing it? You started a thread about it. :roll: (your attention whoring knows no bounds)
And I've been pairing down my books for the last year, so I'm down to just a few choice ones every week that I really like and have kept my interest.
Pumaman
04-25-2005, 03:47 PM
I think Catwoman may have to go. I've kinda let it pile up, and I'm not sure I'll have the interest now that Brubaker's gone.
Mike Haseloff
04-25-2005, 07:27 PM
Seriously! Back then I could take 4 friends to a movie in the Philippines over buying 1 comic book.
Man...I'm glad I moved here.Ugh, it was another age... good times friend, good times. :(
sto110
04-26-2005, 11:15 AM
So far the series has left me feeling very empty. 4 issues in and I'm not "feeling" it yet. Sentry was the main draw for me...so once his arc is done, I'm outta here. I was going to stick with it for one additional arc, but Marvel's upcoming price hike has convinced me to spend my dollars on something I might like more.
What are they moving the books up to now??? Jesus Christ i spend enough already....
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