View Full Version : Who would you like to see woo and win the fair maiden?
Dingo
07-15-2006, 04:34 AM
Who would you like to see ultimately win the hand of everyones favourite femizon?
Personally I am hoping for Pug. He always has Jen's best interests at heart. He is sweet and thoughtful.
Also, he doesn't need the help of Starfox to smooth over relationship bumps.
As a side note for Dan: you have obviously written compelling multi dimensional characters for me to care who "wins" (it isn't a game or a contest, but you know what I mean).
Miss Kitty Fantastico
07-15-2006, 09:07 AM
That's actually a tough question, and kudos to Dan for making it so.
Obviously, my first instinct is to pin my hopes on Pug. I mean, he's the classic case - best friend, unspoken love, victim of hesitation and perpetual bad timing, if-only-she'd-realise, and so on. And he's got that certain 'everyman' quality to him - I mean that in a good way. He's not an astronaut or a superhero, he doesn't fly a jet to work, and he clearly isn't Casanova with the ladies. For those of us who are likewise just another person, nothing special, who get frustrated at seeing the sports stars and race car drivers and celebrities skipping from one gorgeous beauty/hunk to the next with apparent ease, when we're lucky to get a date at all in any given month... Pug's one of us, it's nice when one of us wins. It's the Pretty in Pink thing, as in vol.2 #5 - she ends up with Blane, but you just wish she'd be with Duckie (she did originally, I gather, but the script was re-written after word came from on high that that direction wasn't liked).
Whereas John is the good-looking superhero/astronaut/Tom-Cruise-in-Top-Gun type. And he's got the whole not-liking-the-green thing against him, and the Starfox situation tainting everything since then with the suggestion that he hasn't really earned it - that 'if life were fair', he wouldn't be the one buying a reinforced bed.
But I don't know if that's really fair to him, or Jen. Sure, he has issues with the She-Hulk side of Jen that need to be sorted out, and he and Jen were in a rough patch when Starfox stuck his meddling mojo into the mix. But did Eros take away the disagreement between them, or did he take away the potential for that disagreement to be resolved properly? We saw in vol.2 #2 John making an effort to accept the green side of Jen, and while, granted, it remained something they weren't seeing eye to eye on, can we be so sure that they would have split up over it? Who's to say Jen's anger in #6 wouldn't have been a proper wake-up call to John, and that he'd have gotten it properly through his head that, if he wants to be with Jen, he has to really accept who she is? Isn't it possible he would?
And don't forget, John isn't the only one to have issues that need to be sorted out before a real, lasting relationship can be assured. How many times has Jen unknowingly twisted Pug's heart? Of course she doesn't know she's doing it, but that's the thing - she doesn't see him as a romantic prospect, in spite of all the consideration and sweetness he's shown her. That's something, one must assume, he's just going to have to make plain to her in terms she can't ignore. Just as Jen has to make plain to John, in terms he can't ignore, that keeping She-Hulk in the closet is not an option. It's not exactly the same thing, but it's the same kind of thing, and I think it demonstrates that John's behaviour is not in itself proof that a relationship shouldn't happen between them.
While Pug certainly has Jen's best interests at heart, but I wonder... could he end up making things worse? He'd love to believe that John and Jen aren't meant to be together, and he's got the suspicion of Starfox's meddling to indicate to him that they're together 'artificially', but is that the whole truth? John and Jen deserve to know the truth, but is Pug going to give it to them straight-up - "Here's what happened to you." - or is he, with the best of intentions, going to deliver it in such a way that it's damaging to them - "Here's why you two aren't really in love."
So, yeah, it's difficult to say. I think it's possible, depending on what happens (which means, of course, 'depending on what Dan wants') for either of them to make a good partner for Jen, or for either of them to ultimately hurt her, even though neither of them would want to. I used to be pro-Pug without a doubt, but now I'm not so sure.
So I'll make the only choice I can logically make under those circumstances, which is: Carol Danvers. Because c'mon, that cover would be awesome. Blow DC's new Batwoman right out of the water, that would...
Edited to add: damn, I can go on a bit, huh?
tom daylight
07-15-2006, 11:47 AM
J Jonah Jameson
Hot Pink
07-15-2006, 11:52 AM
lady deathstrike
Dingo
07-15-2006, 06:58 PM
Who's to say Jen's anger in #6 wouldn't have been a proper wake-up call to John, and that he'd have gotten it properly through his head that, if he wants to be with Jen, he has to really accept who she is? Isn't it possible he would?
Oh, it is entirely possible. Likely even.
What is a little more questionable is whether or not Jen would have dumped him during #6 for simply not have "gotten it properly through his head" by then. For such a fundamental part of their relationship he really should have got it straight away. He has a problem with half her existence, and she has every right to be annoyed at that.
And I still like Pug more ;)
beta-ray
07-16-2006, 12:11 AM
me. :D
Or Pug.
Other. Daredevil or Hawkeye, maybe?
Jef UK
07-18-2006, 10:46 PM
She-Ra.
Dingo
07-19-2006, 12:34 AM
Richard Rory.
Ok, I am going to allow my ignorance to show.
So who is Richard Rory?
Edward J. Cunningham
07-19-2006, 02:14 AM
Ok, I am going to allow my ignorance to show.
So who is Richard Rory?
He was a recurring supporting character in Man-Thing and later The Defenders which David Anthony Kraft wrote. When DAK was assigned to write Savage She-Hulk, he found a way to bring aboard Richard Rory, too. Richard was a down-on-his-luck loveable loser for whom nothing ever went right. Prior to issue #7, he won a large sum of money when he put a betting chip he found in the street in a slot machine. The casino owner tried to keep the money by getting one of his showgirls to persuade Richards to bet his winning in a roulette game, which was rigged. But there was a mistake and Richard broke the bank.
He later came to L.A. and found the She-Hulk running away from the police. Remembering his days with the Man-Thing, he directed the police down the street while Shulkie ran into an alley. Jennifer Walters came out in rags. Richard at the time seemed to accept Jen's cover story, but we later find out that he (unlike Lois Lane) figured out she was the She-Hulk. He hired Jen to help him buy a parcel of land back in Florida that he wanted to use as a preserve for the Swamp Thing, but the title was owned by a man named Schist who had disappeared. Richard laters discovers that Schist was killed by the Man-Thing, but since that can't be proven, he can't get the land. Jen discovers the same thing the hard way when her alter ego runs into The Hacienda and the Man-Thing. Richard finds her wandering in the swamp, clad again in rags. This confirms his suspicions, but he says nothing. She flies back to LA, while he stays in Florida and runs the radio station which he has bought.
Later he goes to L.A. after his fortune is exhausted and his bad luck has returned. He became one end of a triangle between himself, Jen, and Jen's neighbor, Zapper. Maybe I should call this love triangle a "square", though because Jen was only interested in Richard when she was in human form, and only had romantic feelings for Zapper when she was the She-Hulk. As much as Jen may have liked Richard, I don't think they ever got past first base. (They almost went farther in issue #17, but Zapper interrupted.) On the other hand (although they couldn't be explicit about this), I'm pretty sure She-Hulk and Zapper went all the way in issue #15. When Jen decided to remain She-Hulk all the time, that meant Richard was left out of the cold. Except for a brief appearance in Sensational She-Hulk, I don't believe he has been seen in Marvel Comics since...
Dingo
07-19-2006, 02:26 AM
He was a recurring supporting character in Man-Thing and later The Defenders which David Anthony Kraft wrote. When DAK was assigned to write Savage She-Hulk, he found a way to bring aboard Richard Rory, too. Richard was a down-on-his-luck loveable loser for whom nothing ever went right. Prior to issue #7, he won a large sum of money when he put a betting chip he found in the street in a slot machine. The casino owner tried to keep the money by getting one of his showgirls to persuade Richards to bet his winning in a roulette game, which was rigged. But there was a mistake and Richard broke the bank.
He later came to L.A. and found the She-Hulk running away from the police. Remembering his days with the Man-Thing, he directed the police down the street while Shulkie ran into an alley. Jennifer Walters came out in rags. Richard at the time seemed to accept Jen's cover story, but we later find out that he (unlike Lois Lane) figured out she was the She-Hulk. He hired Jen to help him buy a parcel of land back in Florida that he wanted to use as a preserve for the Swamp Thing, but the title was owned by a man named Schist who had disappeared. Richard laters discovers that Schist was killed by the Man-Thing, but since that can't be proven, he can't get the land. Jen discovers the same thing the hard way when her alter ego runs into The Hacienda and the Man-Thing. Richard finds her wandering in the swamp, clad again in rags. This confirms his suspicions, but he says nothing. She flies back to LA, while he stays in Florida and runs the radio station which he has bought.
Later he goes to L.A. after his fortune is exhausted and his bad luck has returned. He became one end of a triangle between himself, Jen, and Jen's neighbor, Zapper. Maybe I should call this love triangle a "square", though because Jen was only interested in Richard when she was in human form, and only had romantic feelings for Zapper when she was the She-Hulk. As much as Jen may have liked Richard, I don't think they ever got past first base. (They almost went farther in issue #17, but Zapper interrupted.) On the other hand (although they couldn't be explicit about this), I'm pretty sure She-Hulk and Zapper went all the way in issue #15. When Jen decided to remain She-Hulk all the time, that meant Richard was left out of the cold. Except for a brief appearance in Sensational She-Hulk, I don't believe he has been seen in Marvel Comics since...
Wow, that is old school.
Thanks for the answer, Wiki has failed me for the first time, but E.J. Cunningham has come to the rescue.
Sounds like a worthy candidate.
Perhaps not as sexy as Ms. Marvel or She-Ra though.
Miss Kitty Fantastico
07-19-2006, 02:50 AM
Except for a brief appearance in Sensational She-Hulk, I don't believe he has been seen in Marvel Comics since...
Almost - 'Mr. Continuity' Dan got Richard into She-Hulk's time trial. In the first big splash double-page, he's the first guy in the front row to the left of Shulkie, blond with square glasses, next to the guy who (from the horrible visor-glasses) I'm guessing is Buck Bukowski.
(Now, I'm gonna go daydream about She-Ra for a while... 8-) )
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