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Shwicaz
06-23-2006, 04:19 AM
This book is a bit of a prickly issue.

On the one hand, its Alan Moore, who is considered a god in the comics medium.

On the other hand, its an 'epic tale of pornography' featuring characters from fairy tales you heard as a child. Some states/stores may not be able to carry these.

Then again, there is the price to consider. Will people plunk down 75 dollars (or 150 dollars for the s/n edition) without seeing any of the work?

We were at a loss at our store.

So, I decided to showcase the book in our newsletter for the past couple of weeks.

You can see how i did that here:

http://www.comicopia.com/services.html

(just scroll down to the Alan Moore stuff--you can't miss it)

Since I announced in the newsletter that we would be taking deposits for pre-orders of the book, we have had 10 people put down a deposit for the regular edition, and 2 people put down a deposit for the s/n edition.

This was more copies than we would have got for the stands, so the newsletter promotion (as well as the sign we put up in the store) really helped us out.

How are you other retailers handling this?

Are you ordering any? a little? a lot?

We still have to decide how many we want for 'the stands', but I am pretty happy right now with our pre-orders.

Any boarders plan on picking up the book?

The Roman Candle
06-23-2006, 04:24 AM
Very carefully.

And I pre-ordered mine from Amazon with their delightfully heafty discount.

SteveZegers
06-23-2006, 04:29 AM
Yeah, I'm ordering one online for the discount. I like to shop at the store, but with something like this or an absolute edition I just buy it online.

TheGibson
06-23-2006, 04:30 AM
It would be weird to offer porn in a comic store but I can't really see an argument against it. Depends on the shop I guess. Do you have other kinds of porn around? If not, then not getting any for the store and letting people order individually is probably the way to go. Anyone who's into comics has heard of this, there's no need to have every 10 year old ask "What's LOST GIRLS?"

"Uh... you wouldn't like it."

The Roman Candle
06-23-2006, 04:32 AM
It would be weird to offer porn in a comic store but I can't really see an argument against it. Depends on the shop I guess. Do you have other kinds of porn around? If not, then not getting any for the store and letting people order individually is probably the way to go. Anyone who's into comics has heard of this, there's no need to have every 10 year old ask "What's LOST GIRLS?"

"Uh... you wouldn't like it."

10-year-old comic shop customers are usually not interesting in anything with the world "girls" in the title.

TheGibson
06-23-2006, 04:41 AM
10-year-old comic shop customers are usually not interesting in anything with the world "girls" in the title.

But if they like comics, they would be if the words "Alan Moore" are.

Maybe.:cool:

Shwicaz
06-23-2006, 04:46 AM
It would be weird to offer porn in a comic store but I can't really see an argument against it. Depends on the shop I guess. Do you have other kinds of porn around? If not, then not getting any for the store and letting people order individually is probably the way to go. Anyone who's into comics has heard of this, there's no need to have every 10 year old ask "What's LOST GIRLS?"

"Uh... you wouldn't like it."


Our shore has an 'adult' book section.

We have a large selection of trades and 3 shelves of 'bagged' issues of comics (like Pee Soup, HOt Moms, Trucker Fags in Denial, Sticky, and AG Super Erotic Anthology, among others)

I am sure some people will hear about this and go 'ITS PORN!!!1'

We are expecting our clientele to say 'ITS ALAN MOORE!!!1'

Either way, our clientele is well aware that we carry works of pornography (in the comic form...we dont' carry playboy and stuff like that) and after 15 years of doing it there has not been a complaint.

RichJohnston
06-23-2006, 04:47 AM
I'd like to add that, for the hardcover edition at least, this will be the only printing. There is no decision for a softcover printing.

So this order, will be it. No reorders. For a major Alan Moore work that is already garnering media publicity.

RichJohnston
06-23-2006, 04:47 AM
But if they like comics, they would be if the words "Alan Moore" are.

Maybe.:cool:

Even "From Hell"?

JABSEN
06-23-2006, 04:49 AM
If I was a retariler, I think the price would be the main thing I'd be scared about. How does your shop handle other high priced collections, Like Absolutes and Omnibuses?

Shwicaz
06-23-2006, 04:51 AM
If I was a retariler, I think the price would be the main thing I'd be scared about. How does your shop handle other high priced collections, Like Absolutes and Omnibuses?


truth be told, the owner would just order blindly.

sometimes he sits on a lot of stuff, other times they move quickly.

It was my idea to include the pre-order/deposit news in our newsletter (I recently took over all aspects of the store newsletter that is at our site) because I figured it would be a better way to guage interest and to help us better order than having an 'Alan Moore's name vs. Pornographic Material' debate.

The Roman Candle
06-23-2006, 04:53 AM
But if they like comics, they would be if the words "Alan Moore" are.

Maybe.:cool:

I think you're giving 10-year-olds far too much credit.

Shwicaz
06-23-2006, 04:54 AM
I think you're giving 10-year-olds far too much credit.

I don't think you are giving them enough.

Lord Jermaine Retail
06-23-2006, 04:58 AM
This book is a bit of a prickly issue.

On the one hand, its Alan Moore, who is considered a god in the comics medium.

On the other hand, its an 'epic tale of pornography' featuring characters from fairy tales you heard as a child. Some states/stores may not be able to carry these.

Then again, there is the price to consider. Will people plunk down 75 dollars (or 150 dollars for the s/n edition) without seeing any of the work?

We were at a loss at our store.

So, I decided to showcase the book in our newsletter for the past couple of weeks.

You can see how i did that here:

http://www.comicopia.com/services.html

(just scroll down to the Alan Moore stuff--you can't miss it)

Since I announced in the newsletter that we would be taking deposits for pre-orders of the book, we have had 10 people put down a deposit for the regular edition, and 2 people put down a deposit for the s/n edition.

This was more copies than we would have got for the stands, so the newsletter promotion (as well as the sign we put up in the store) really helped us out.

How are you other retailers handling this?

Are you ordering any? a little? a lot?

We still have to decide how many we want for 'the stands', but I am pretty happy right now with our pre-orders.

Any boarders plan on picking up the book?
Carefully, I'll take care of pre-orders definitely. But I may only order one or two extra. If people need it, then I'll try to get more. Maybe. I worry about some of those cases in which mature readers material has been sold to an adult, but that adult was undercover and the disaster unfolded from that point. I have a customer who is a reported that wanted to do a story on Lost Girls and how comic shops have no safety net as far as the creator, publisher, and distributor not being the ones that take heat. Only the shop does. He basically wanted to wrtie a manual on how to pick a fight with a relatively exposed small business like a comic shop and win. An adult buys something that is mature readers, decides they're offended, then the bad press begins. If he insisted on doing that story, which I wasn't going to participate in, I was thinking about just not carrying the book. He was going to play up the whole "look what crazy Alan Moore is doing to your child's favorite icons!" He actually thought this story would be good for comics and good for my store. :no:

Lord Jermaine Retail
06-23-2006, 05:00 AM
truth be told, the owner would just order blindly.

sometimes he sits on a lot of stuff, other times they move quickly.

It was my idea to include the pre-order/deposit news in our newsletter (I recently took over all aspects of the store newsletter that is at our site) because I figured it would be a better way to guage interest and to help us better order than having an 'Alan Moore's name vs. Pornographic Material' debate.
Pre-paid pre-order in this case might be a good idea. That way you can know the serious customers who really want this higher cost book.

Shwicaz
06-23-2006, 05:01 AM
He actually thought this story would be good for comics and good for my store. :no:

wow, I am speechless.

Shwicaz
06-23-2006, 05:02 AM
Pre-paid pre-order in this case might be a good idea. That way you can know the serious customers who really want this higher cost book.

yes, I think that is how we are going to handle it now.

It seemed to work very well for us.

TheGibson
06-23-2006, 05:51 AM
Trucker Fags in Denial
Best.


Title.


EVER!





EVER!!!!!

TheGibson
06-23-2006, 05:54 AM
I think you're giving 10-year-olds far too much credit.

Come on. Like you kid (or mine) isn't going to know the name Alan Moore. Hell, it will probably be their first word.

Fine fine... 12 years old.