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Fusion
06-22-2006, 02:56 PM
Officials: U.S. didn’t find WMDs, despite claims
Comments are response to claims by GOP senators

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13480264/

WASHINGTON - Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday they have no evidence that Iraq produced chemical weapons after the 1991 Gulf War, despite recent reports from media outlets and Republican lawmakers.

Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan on Wednesday pointed to a newly declassified report that says coalition forces have found 500 munitions in Iraq that contained degraded sarin or mustard nerve agents.

They cited the report in an attempt to counter criticism by Democrats who say the decision to go to war was a mistake.

But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.

Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and "not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time."

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue.

"We were able to determine that [the missile] is, in fact, degraded and ... is consistent with what we would expect from finding a munition that was dated back to pre-Gulf War," an intelligence official told NBC. "However, even in the degraded state, our assessment is that they could pose an up-to-lethal hazard if used in attacks against coalition forces."

‘A bit suspicious’
Democrats said a report from the top U.S. weapons inspector contemplated that older munitions bearing traces of chemical agents would be found.

A leading Democrat on intelligence issues said Santorum's assertion that there were in fact weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was politically motivated.

"It's a bit suspicious that this was rolled out the night before" the debate and vote in the Senate on withdrawal from Iraq "by a senator in a close political race," said Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif.

Santorum is down 18 points in his Senate re-election contest, according to a poll released Wednesday.

Harman said it was "unfortunate" that people have "not learned the lesson about hyping ... and cherry picking" intelligence to suit their own aims.

For his part, Hoekstra, appearing before cameras on Thursday, reiterated his assertions of Wednesday evening, saying, "Iraq is NOT a WMD-free zone" and it "amazes me" that members of Congress still say that there was no WMD in Iraq.

RickM
06-22-2006, 02:58 PM
Dammit! Then that war was started under false pretenses. Does anyone know about this?

Ray G.
06-22-2006, 02:59 PM
Whoopsie-doodle.

Jamie Howdeshell
06-22-2006, 02:59 PM
Santorum losing will make me sooooo happy.

:lol:

Ray G.
06-22-2006, 03:00 PM
Santorum losing will make me sooooo happy.

:lol:

Darn it all! Now I have to root for him! :mad:

BronxRonin
06-22-2006, 03:01 PM
Watch it you'll be considered unpatriotic...Oh your from Canada.
Nevermind.
;)
damned Conservatives.

Fusion
06-22-2006, 03:04 PM
Watch it you'll be considered unpatriotic...Oh your from Canada.
Nevermind.
;)
damned Conservatives.

Don't fucking remind me! Fucking Harper! :surrend:

Bill?
06-22-2006, 03:10 PM
Darn it all! Now I have to root for him! :mad:

you can offset that by rooting for Arlen Spector instead. it's what all non-crazy right wing Pennsylvanians do. plus he's jewish.

Jamie Howdeshell
06-22-2006, 03:11 PM
Darn it all! Now I have to root for him! :mad:

you're not serious, are you?

there is no better example of a crazy christian than that jackass.

RickM
06-22-2006, 03:13 PM
you're not serious, are you?

there is no better example of a crazy christian than that jackass.


Lots of Christians are going to vote against him. Casey is a dream candidate, as Santorum is now learning.

Ray G.
06-22-2006, 03:13 PM
you're not serious, are you?

there is no better example of a crazy christian than that jackass.

Yes, and I hate him, but my conscience will never allow me to back the same candidate as you. :razz:

Ah, I kid. I don't care who wins, honestly. But I believe Santorum will win reelection. The liberal base of the Democratic party will NOT show up to vote for Casey, because he doesn't toe the party line on abortion. They'll stay home to express their displeasure, while the Republican base will show up and catapult ol' Senator Poopy-lube to victory.

Seltzer Water
06-22-2006, 03:15 PM
Yes, and I hate him, but my conscience will never allow me to back the same candidate as you. :razz:

Ah, I kid. I don't care who wins, honestly. But I believe Santorum will win reelection. The liberal base of the Democratic party will NOT show up to vote for Casey, because he doesn't toe the party line on abortion. They'll stay home to express their displeasure, while the Republican base will show up and catapult ol' Senator Poopy-lube to victory.

Santorum's best chance of winning lies with a big turn out for Lynn Swann's gubernatorial hopes. I wouldn't be unhappy with Casey either

Jamie Howdeshell
06-22-2006, 03:15 PM
Lots of Christians are going to vote against him.

which is to be expected since most christians are not insane.

;-)

Ray G.
06-22-2006, 03:17 PM
Santorum's best chance of winning lies with a big turn out for Lynn Swann's gubernatorial hopes. I wouldn't be unhappy with Casey either

Oooh, yes. I am definitely rooting for Lynn Swann. I'm dreaming of a three-fer of Governor Swann, Governor Blackwell, and Senator Steele. That would create an earthquake in the way the parties are viewed by minorities unlike anything seen in decades.

Seltzer Water
06-22-2006, 03:18 PM
I don't think Steele has a chance in hell of winning

Fusion
06-22-2006, 03:27 PM
Oooh, yes. I am definitely rooting for Lynn Swann. I'm dreaming of a three-fer of Governor Swann, Governor Blackwell, and Senator Steele. That would create an earthquake in the way the parties are viewed by minorities unlike anything seen in decades.

Just like Gay people will come out and vote for the Republicans in droves!

By the way, I got a Statue in New York to sell you too.:D

Ray G.
06-22-2006, 03:27 PM
I don't think Steele has a chance in hell of winning

Has the primary taken place yet? He needs to hope for the Dems to nominate Mfume instead of Cardin.

RickM
06-22-2006, 06:26 PM
which is to be expected since most christians are not insane.

;-)


Shhh, don't say that too loudly on this board.

Captain Nate
06-22-2006, 06:34 PM
If Santorum loses, Pennsylvania will have a pro-choice Republican and a pro-life Democrat.