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mewelke
06-03-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm happy with my MacBook. That is I think I am. I'm wondering about these rumors I hear about them overheating, since I noticed that I made the mistake of setting in on my lap today and through the denim of my jeans nearly burned off all the hair from my legs.

However, the hatred for the company is growing. First I thought I should look past their annoying tv ads. Then they shipped me the wrong items in one of the packages. Then they ignored my email and sent me a crap autoresponse. Now as I transfer files from my PC I find that every song I purchased from ITUNES needs to be confirmed on ITUNES over the net to be allowed to play on my new computer.

I'm considering driving down to Cuppertino to bust some heads.

Brian Reed
06-03-2006, 04:03 PM
I used to love my PowerBook a year or so back. I was seriously considering switching my desktop to a Mac for awhile there.

But after almost two years with this tin-plated piece of shit, I'm tired of it. Even cross-platform aplications like Final Draft and Firefox don't actually work properly under OSX. Keyboard shortcuts that I live on in Windows (ctrl+a to select all in a Word document being as prime example) don't seem to have a correlation in MacLand.

I really want to go buy a PC laptop, but I've been waiting (and waiting and waiting) for Vista to ship. Ugh. Just writing this post almost just drove me to Best Buy's laptop department.

And, yeah, iTunes is a bitch. I've taken to burning anything I buy on iTunes and promptly ripping it straight back to the same PC and deleting the iTunes version. I cannot tolerate that authentication proceedure thing that they do.

Eric Williams
06-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Yeah, pears all the way.

kritty
06-03-2006, 04:37 PM
command a selects all on a mac in word - pretty much all the control things are on command in mac - macs the ones that started with quick keys, ibm and such copied them years later

and i like those commercials - i think they are clever and right on

btw - i use pc's frequently in the business world, and i am working on my microsoft certifications, but i will take a mac any day over a pc hands down

GelfXIII
06-03-2006, 04:52 PM
I'm a mac guy from way back. I would pretty much rather pour acid over my hands and type with bloody stumps than use a PC for any extended period of time ... BUT...

I will admit that Mac's corporate attitude of late has begun to piss me off. Not their product which is still superior, but their corporate decision making priorities.

Such as: iPods are not repairable by apple. if your iPod breaks and you are under warrantee they'll give you a new one. If you are out of warantee, you are out of luck. Thanks alot and dont let the door hit you on your ass on the way out.
prices never go down instead of lower the price of a piece of equipment after 6 months, they simply upgrade it and keep the price the same. This sort of elitest crap is one of the things that keep it the number 2 platform in sales.
the Genius bar Dont get me started on these mental midgets. If they have one guy at my local genius bar with an IQ over 120 I'll eat my mac. Seriously, it's like some ironic joke. I ALWAYS know more about mac than these guys, and I'm not particularly technical. They run down a checklist, and if your problem isn't on it they tell you that you need a new one... no matter what! Give me a friggin break!

Nonetheless, I'm probably going to buy a new 13" Macbook 2 Ghz laptop either this weekend or next. I cant wait!!! :D

Brian Reed
06-03-2006, 05:05 PM
command a selects all on a mac in word - pretty much all the control things are on command in mac - macs the ones that started with quick keys, ibm and such copied them years later

Ah, I mis-spoke. I haven't been working on my Mac much for the last few months and forgot that it's the "select all from cursor to end of document" function that I've never sussed out. I use that all the time in Final Draft on the PC (where it's CTRL+SHIFT End) and have never found its equivalent on the Mac.

Brian Reed
06-03-2006, 05:08 PM
I ALWAYS know more about mac than these guys, and I'm not particularly technical. They run down a checklist, and if your problem isn't on it they tell you that you need a new one... no matter what! Give me a friggin break!

I had a problem with my iPod harddrive crapping out a year or so back and the guy at the bar tried to tell me it was because I had illegally downloaded music.

It took a lot of work not to punch him in the face when, after I said "I don't do that," he replied "I think maybe you do, or your iPod wouldn't be giving you any trouble."

Instead I said, "I'll tell you what. You replace my iPod because it's under warranty. I won't talk to your manager about your attitude and we both have a lovely rest of the day." That seemed to get me a fair dose of very polite and prompt customer service.

However, thanks to their overall corporate jerkoff attitude, I have not returned to the Appple Store since, and I won't be buying any more of their products from here on in.

mewelke
06-03-2006, 05:49 PM
and i like those commercials - i think they are clever and right on


You've obviously never had to develop a game for a Mac. They hate you trying to help them almost as much as SONY hates developers for the Playstation. And yet, the Mac commercials are trying to convince me they're the young hip sexy computer.

The commercials are a step up from their old ads though, where they'd have people's testimonies that they weren't very bright so they needed something easier. That was insulting, instead of just annoying and illogical.

mewelke
06-03-2006, 05:52 PM
I really want to go buy a PC laptop, but I've been waiting (and waiting and waiting) for Vista to ship. Ugh. Just writing this post almost just drove me to Best Buy's laptop department.


The problem with PC laptops is you can't build it yourself. My PC desktop, which runs twice as fast, has more memory, and can run games unlike any Mac, cost half as much as the cheapest Mac. My desktop is also free of the crap software that all the companies put on these days. Remember when Dell was a good company? HA. They slap on more crap onto your PC these days...you'll spend more time trying to remove their crap than I'll spend bitching about what whores Apple are...and that's a considerable amount.

mewelke
06-03-2006, 05:55 PM
I had a problem with my iPod harddrive crapping out a year or so back and the guy at the bar tried to tell me it was because I had illegally downloaded music.

It took a lot of work not to punch him in the face when, after I said "I don't do that," he replied "I think maybe you do, or your iPod wouldn't be giving you any trouble."

Instead I said, "I'll tell you what. You replace my iPod because it's under warranty. I won't talk to your manager about your attitude and we both have a lovely rest of the day." That seemed to get me a fair dose of very polite and prompt customer service.

However, thanks to their overall corporate jerkoff attitude, I have not returned to the Appple Store since, and I won't be buying any more of their products from here on in.

I really think this sums up my problem. I really think the best solution for the general good is for me to start peeing in the eyeballs of some Apple execs. I'm off to cupertino! Come Ramtower, you must drive me, for I am quite drunk!

mewelke
06-03-2006, 06:00 PM
Nonetheless, I'm probably going to buy a new 13" Macbook 2 Ghz laptop either this weekend or next. I cant wait!!! :D

That is indeed what I bought...upgraded to a gig of ram as well cause I remember too many mem problems from developing games for them. The laptop seems to be doing well so far...though I haven't left in on for long and have shut it down twice over concern about the molten heat beneath it.

The ITUNES problem I do not believe to be Mac specific so much as a mistaken belief amongst technical people that everyone has an endless instant conection to the internet that will panacea everything. What I in fact have in a knife that can be forced into the kidneys of executives that cause this sort of nonsense.

Brian Reed
06-03-2006, 06:44 PM
The problem with PC laptops is you can't build it yourself. My PC desktop, which runs twice as fast, has more memory, and can run games unlike any Mac, cost half as much as the cheapest Mac. My desktop is also free of the crap software that all the companies put on these days. Remember when Dell was a good company? HA. They slap on more crap onto your PC these days...you'll spend more time trying to remove their crap than I'll spend bitching about what whores Apple are...and that's a considerable amount.

Yeah, but I need a laptop machine in addition to the one here at the desk, and I've grown weary of my Mac and its fuckall of a battery life. Hell, I'd forgot about that bit of Apple joy -- PowerBook batteries are possibly the biggest joke I've ever encountered in consumer electronics. You have to baby it like a high performance sports car.

Do NOT leave your Mac plugged in.

Charge the battery to full, pull the plug and let it drain completely every single time. Otherwise, the battery will rapidly build up memory and you'll be dropping another $100 in 6 months just to gain more than 15 minutes of portable battery life. I have my Mac's speakers turned off, I manually turn the Airport on and off, I have the harddrive set to powerdown as quickly as possible, I keep the screen dimmed to next to nothing, I never watch DVDs on it or listen to music, and I'm still lucky to see more than 2 hours life out of the thing.

Kody
06-03-2006, 07:04 PM
Ah, I mis-spoke. I haven't been working on my Mac much for the last few months and forgot that it's the "select all from cursor to end of document" function that I've never sussed out. I use that all the time in Final Draft on the PC (where it's CTRL+SHIFT End) and have never found its equivalent on the Mac.

I run Final Draft on OSX every day without a problem. But if there's a quick key missing from Final Draft, it's Final Draft that's causing the problem since it's up to the software developer to include or exclude whatever shortcuts the want.

mewelke
06-03-2006, 07:58 PM
To make things even better, Bank of America has detected abnormal charges on my credit card which I'm pretty certain is this cost of the laptop. Of course now Bank of America can't be bothered to answer the phone even with my good natured screams of "Namasday you motherfuckers."