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mewelke

06-02-2006, 09:05 AM

Taxman

06-02-2006, 09:08 AM

Because she's a red head?And Wonder Man is the red-headed step-child of the Avengers.

mewelke

06-02-2006, 09:56 AM

I keep meaning to check out this Avengers of which people speak...I vaguely remember some of them I think. Was there a guy who had powers that he could become really dense? Or is that just reality and we elected him to the Presidency? Thor! Thor was with them right? And for some reason Thor was metal if I remember correctly. Ooh it's all coming back now. And then they had a West Coast branch that operated out of the Playboy mansion or something...ok maybe my memory is still a little foggy.

GelfXIII

06-02-2006, 10:14 AM

...ok maybe my memory is still a little foggy.
No, he was in Daredevil.:no:

Cth

06-02-2006, 10:55 AM

One of the big reasons a lot of people give for hating Wonder Man is the amount of times that he has died. Jean Grey has dies just as many times. Why don't people transfer some of that hate to her?

Well, I don't like either of 'em to be honest.. but hate WM for different reasons.

He's just an utterly boring character. A foil character. If it wasn't for Beast or Wanda, he'd just be Generic Man.

The Hollywood thing never seemed lame to me.

Visually, I never liked the design.

Etc, etc..

The only part I liked was the beginning when he was a bad guy that changed to stop his brother or something. Everything afterwards was downhill for me :)

Brian Reed

06-02-2006, 02:03 PM

Because she's a red head?

:grope:

Brian Reed

06-02-2006, 02:04 PM

Visually, I never liked the design.

Dude... liesure suit! Come on, he rocks! It takes a fucking tough guy to walk around dressed like that.

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/FrankStrysik/2004-05-16_113530_wonderman.jpg

Taxman

06-02-2006, 04:04 PM

Dude... liesure suit! Come on, he rocks! It takes a fucking tough guy to walk around dressed like that.

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/FrankStrysik/2004-05-16_113530_wonderman.jpgI was a little surprised that Bowen chose that look for their bust. What would you have picked?

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan-Kirby.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/Wonder%20Man%2002.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2_ZBB5.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2_ZBB4.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan-ForceWorks.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2-Byrne.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2_ZBB3.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/AUTS-WonderMan.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/Wonder%20Man%2007.gif

Johnny C. TheLastHorseman

06-02-2006, 04:30 PM

Hey Brian, we gonna see Simon show up in Ms. Marvel anytime soon? Ever since HoM I've been wanting to see these two hook up. DO IT.

Taxman

06-02-2006, 04:44 PM

Hey Brian, we gonna see Simon show up in Ms. Marvel anytime soon? Ever since HoM I've been wanting to see these two hook up. DO IT.He has said before that Wonder Man is part of the Civil War storyline.

dimeshop

06-02-2006, 05:18 PM

I hate him right now because I'm trying to read through West Coast Avengers and he goes straight from the Christmas Tree to the Wondermullet. It makes it difficult to read.

Mike Haseloff

06-02-2006, 11:49 PM

Dude... liesure suit! Come on, he rocks! It takes a fucking tough guy to walk around dressed like that.Or a wanker so massive, he'd actually call himself Wonder Man.

Brian Reed

06-03-2006, 12:29 AM

I was a little surprised that Bowen chose that look for their bust. What would you have picked?

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan-Kirby.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/Wonder%20Man%2002.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2_ZBB5.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2_ZBB4.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan-ForceWorks.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2-Byrne.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/WonderMan2_ZBB3.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/AUTS-WonderMan.gifhttp://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/Avengers/scarlet/Wonder%20Man%2007.gif

I actually dig the liesure suit look, but he'll be closer to his HoM duds when we see him in the Civil War arc.

Brian Reed

06-03-2006, 12:31 AM

Hey Brian, we gonna see Simon show up in Ms. Marvel anytime soon? Ever since HoM I've been wanting to see these two hook up. DO IT.

Simon will be a recurring character in the book from the start of the Civil War arc on.

Spidey 13itch

06-03-2006, 01:39 AM

Wonder..... Man? I didn't know there was a Wonder Man.

What now? Robin Girl?

TheTravis!

06-03-2006, 02:33 AM

Two points:

One - Jean Grey has only actually DIED once. By Magneto's hand, at the end of Morrison's run. The first big death was the Phoenix, not Jean. And there was another one issue death that really shouldn't count, because EVERY comic character has been pronounced dead for an issue or two.

Two - Wonderman has a lot of untapped potential. I liked him a LOT better when he was simply strong and indestructable. The "I'm made of energy" Wonderman does nothing for me. I lovecd when he was doing Hollywood stuntwork, and trying to break into movies. I'd love to see that revisited.

Taxman

06-03-2006, 10:50 AM

Wonder..... Man? I didn't know there was a Wonder Man.Only since 1966.

Your Pal, Carl

06-03-2006, 11:34 AM

Two points:

One - Jean Grey has only actually DIED once. By Magneto's hand, at the end of Morrison's run. The first big death was the Phoenix, not Jean. And there was another one issue death that really shouldn't count, because EVERY comic character has been pronounced dead for an issue or two.
Many would say that the Phoenix death was Jean, but they retconned it to be Phoenix when they found the cocoon. Personally, I don't really give a toss.

mewelke

06-03-2006, 01:41 PM

What now? Robin Girl?

Night time at stately Wayne Manor.

Taxman

06-03-2006, 02:08 PM

Wonder..... Man? I didn't know there was a Wonder Man.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/glima/comic%20book%20images/WonderCouple.gif

Taxman

06-04-2006, 05:23 PM

Simon will be a recurring character in the book from the start of the Civil War arc on.I hope you'll consider using the Beast at some point.

Cth

06-05-2006, 06:19 AM

Dude... liesure suit! Come on, he rocks! It takes a fucking tough guy to walk around dressed like that.

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/FrankStrysik/2004-05-16_113530_wonderman.jpg

Yeah.. moussed hair..Wonder Woman's bracelets..Cyclops's sunglasses.. bright red outfit with flipped up collar..

Brother Voodoo has more fashion sense :D

Mitchel

07-04-2006, 06:29 PM

I would say there are more Wonder Man fans than haters. Wonder Man doesn't have more haters than any other character, there are lots of Captain America haters and Wolverine haters. For the same reasons a character resonates with some readers, it becomes obnoxious to others. Different readers, different personalities, different tastes.

Me, I think he is the best thing since bread and butter, just get rid of that freaking stupid kirby dots energy look and the ability to fly on his own. Wonder Man is at his best when he is fighting with his uniform all torn up, buff, veiny and all pumped up like a human hulk, not flying covered in purple dots like a freaking human torch of energy. Those purple fancy schmatzy dots are plain sissy.

Taxman

01-20-2008, 10:12 PM

That's not a leisure suit. :roll:At this point, we may all be forced to concede that it is a leisure suit.

Spidey616

01-24-2008, 07:10 PM

Anyone remember Simon's small part in Civil War: Frontline in the Atlantean Sleeper Cell story? He seemed quite the sellout embezzeling money from a charity.

So I gotta ask:

Skrull or No Skrull :Ponder:

:D

Taxman

01-24-2008, 08:59 PM

Embezzlement has been a big part of Simon's game from the beginning.

Mitchel

01-25-2008, 06:21 PM

Embezzlement has been a big part of Simon's game from the beginning.

BULL!!! If you want to destroy the hero you make Frontline's accusations true, no one including me is going to like a scum of the earth superhero who embezzles from his own charity foundation. Simon became a hero because in his first appearance he repented and that was his big shame. Writers that followed (like Michelinie & Shooter) planned on making the Grim Reaper the real guilty party. Only Englehart, the creator of the Vision obviously ticked off by the way Wonder Man was stealing his creation's thunder wrote a story where Simon makes public he was guilty of the first embezzlement and even then it was under the influence of his big brother the Grim Reaper that a very young Simon Williams made that mistake. No way after all this years Wonder Man the experienced hero would embezzle again and from his own fundation. Plus in his limited series the person he left in charge of the foundation, his agent Neal Sorayan is revealed to be a super-villain. There is a lot of ways of proving false this crap put out in Frontline.

Dermie

02-01-2008, 01:21 PM

Embezzlement has been a big part of Simon's game from the beginning.

Simon embezzled ONCE, when his business was completely falling apart. He later regretted it deeply, and publically admitted his mistake. He atoned for it, and it makes no sense that he would do it again. That bit from Front Line made no sense at all (especially considering that SHIELD didn't need to blackmail him, since he was already a registered hero working for them).

Benny

02-01-2008, 07:02 PM

I don't hate Wonder Man. I just hate the awful costume he just started wearing in Mighty Avengers. Bring back the red safari jacket, darn it!

Omega Flight

02-01-2008, 07:27 PM

I don't hate Wonder Man. I just hate the awful costume he just started wearing in Mighty Avengers. Bring back the red safari jacket, darn it!

Damn straight. Nothing is better then the Leisure suit/Safari jacket. Maybe he's afraid it'll be roasted by Doom XD.

Dermie

02-10-2008, 09:34 AM

Bring back the red safari jacket, darn it!

Eeeewww! NO!!! :no:

The safari jacket may not be Simon's worst costume (the infamous "christmas tree" costume from WCA #14-24 comes to mind), but its gotta be in the top three.

Mitchel

02-11-2008, 05:15 AM

Eeeewww! NO!!! :no:

The safari jacket may not be Simon's worst costume (the infamous "christmas tree" costume from WCA #14-24 comes to mind), but its gotta be in the top three.

After Cho I don't hate the red safari as much as I used to. I prefer the new costume though. In Ms. Marvel he is still two costumes behind. Is he gonna be wearing the new one? In Melo's preview page he is still wearing the really old one.