Whose exclusives do you enjoy most: Marvel or DC?

[Masculine Todd]

after hearing about EMC2, it seems that Marvel has a deathgrip on pencilers.

Basically, it boils down to (NOT A COMPLETE LIST)

Marvel:
Writers:

Brian Michael Bendis
Mark Millar
Ed Brubaker
J. Michael Straczynski
Jeph Loeb
Paul Jenkins
Warren Ellis
Chris Claremont
Peter David
Robert Kirkman
Reginald Hudlin
Zeb Wells
Dan Slott
Daniel Way


Artists:

John Romita Jr.
Brian Hitch
Joe Madueria
David Finch
Ed McGuinness
Alex Maleev
Scott Kolins
Scottie Young
Ryan Sook
J. Scott Campbell
Leinil Francis Yu
Steve McNiven
Olivier Coipel
Angel Medina
Michael Lark
Patrick Zircher
Mike Deodato Jr.
Chris Bachalo
Billy Tan
Ron Garney
Steve Epting
Scot Eaton
Mark Bagley
Tom Raney
Greg Land
Sean Philips
Trevor Hairsine
Tommy Lee Edwards
Leonard Kirk
Mark Brooks
Jim Cheung
Mike McKone
Manuel Garcia
Brandon Peterson
Simone Bianchi
Stuart Immonen
Pascual Ferry
Paco Medina
Salvador Larroca
Mike Wieringo
Ramon Bachs


vs.

DC:
Writers:

Geoff Johns
Grant Morrison
Judd Winick
Greg Rucka
Kurt Busiek
Mark Waid
Mark Verheiden
Bruce Jones
Brian Azzarello
Gail Simone
Will Pfeifer
Bill Willingham


Artists:

Jim Lee
George Perez
Carlos Pacheo
Ed Benes
Phil Jimenez
Tim Sale
Ethan Van Sciver
Adam Kubert
Andy Kubert
Howard Porter
Ian Churchill
Dan Jurgens
Doug Mahnke
Scott McDaniel
Darick Robertson
Pete Woods
Ivan Reis
Don Kramer
Chris Batista
Tony S. Daniel
Carlos D'Anda
Shane Davis
Jamal Igle
Doug Braithwaite
Joe Bennett
Dale Eaglesham
Damien Scott
Tom Derenick
Joshua Middleton
Patrick Gleason
Rags Morales
Jesus Saiz
Justiano
Renato Guedes
Karl Kerschl
Matthew Clark

[Caley Tibbittz]

Exclusives are meaningless to me. I just wish there was less shuffling of creative teams.

[Ray G.]

I give the edge to DC's writers(although my two favorite writers are at Marvel), and Marvel's artists.

[Vonn Hennigar]

DC has had a tough time out of making their homegrown pencillers true "Stars" and i think that hurts them in the long run as many of these guys feel they need to jump to Marvel to really MAKE it.

That said i'll still go with Marvel.

[A.Huerta]

Ur missing Joe Mad and Campbell for Marvel.

[NickBurgess]

Marvel, definitely. But just because the few people I really follow are there.

[The Cheap-Arse Film Critic]

I came to terms recently with the fact the I'm basically a Marvel Zombie. Yeah, I like some DC books, but Marvel is where my heart lies.

So, Marvel.

[JMP]

While I give the edge to Marvel, I think DC has a lot of great artists, they just don't emphasize it like Marvel does.

[Bearpod91]

Marvel for me, all the way.

[Masculine Todd]

Ur missing Joe Mad and Campbell for Marvel.

fixed.

[Pat Loika]

I don't think Phil Hester or Frazer Irving signed exclusives. Hester himself has said that he doesn't like exclusives since it limits what he can do.

They both have great rosters, but a lot of artists I follow are currently working for MARVEL.

P.

[KingMob]

I dont know as if I would call Ellis marvel exclusive really.

[Masculine Todd]

DC has had a tough time out of making their homegrown pencillers true "Stars" and i think that hurts them in the long run as many of these guys feel they need to jump to Marvel to really MAKE it.
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Not to be argumentative, but I would contest this.

DC has had some success with creating stars out of certain pencilers who 'cut their teeth' at DC. High profile pencilers such as Doug Mahnke, Ed Benes, Jesus Saiz, Karl Kerschl, Scott McDaniel, Tim Sale, Steve Dillon (in America, at least) and Dan Jurgens all made their high profiled names at DC.

Also, I would contest that some of Marvel's "homegrown" pencilers had to jump ship to become "stars". Ethan Van Sciver was merely a fill-in artist until DC made him an A-Lister. I would argue Ian Churchill just now exploded as an A-Lister from his DC work. DC made Rags Morales a superstar. Same with Phil Jiminez. Dougie Braithwaite was known, but has just now become a "name" creator from his work on Justice.

[Masculine Todd]

I dont know as if I would call Ellis marvel exclusive really.

He did sign an exclusive, but it had a clause that stated something to the affect of "he can continue his non DCU projects he had planned".

[Vonn Hennigar]

Not to be argumentative, but I would contest this.

DC has had some success with creating stars out of certain pencilers who 'cut their teeth' at DC. High profile pencilers such as Doug Mahnke, Ed Benes, Jesus Saiz, Karl Kerschl, Scott McDaniel, Tim Sale, Steve Dillon (in America, at least) and Dan Jurgens all made their high profiled names at DC.

Also, I would contest that some of Marvel's "homegrown" pencilers had to jump ship to become "stars". Ethan Van Sciver was merely a fill-in artist until DC made him an A-Lister. I would argue Ian Churchill just now exploded as an A-Lister from his DC work. DC made Rags Morales a superstar. Same with Phil Jiminez. Dougie Braithwaite was known, but has just now become a "name" creator from his work on Justice.

Dan Jurgens was a superstar,Van Sciver,Jiminez and Morales are all stars on the cusp of superstardom.

If you really consider Ian Churchill a Superstar then i really can't argue with a crazy person.

[KingMob]

He did sign an exclusive, but it had a clause that stated something to the affect of "he can continue his non DCU projects he had planned".

all 35 of them? :lol:

[ClintP]

Make mine Marvel!

[xyzzy]

Marvel:
Writers:
Brian Michael Bendis
Mark Millar
Ed Brubaker
Warren Ellis
Peter David
Robert Kirkman
Dan Slott

DC:
Writers:
Grant Morrison
Greg Rucka
Kurt Busiek
Mark WaidFor me it breaks down like this. These are the writers I would consider A-list and I'm not much of an art person.

[Thudpucker]

Marvel is way out in front. Not even close.

[Masculine Todd]

Dan Jurgens was a superstar,Van Sciver,Jiminez and Morales are all stars on the cusp of superstardom.

If you really consider Ian Churchill a Superstar then i really can't argue with a crazy person.

The difference between your view of pencilers like Jiminez being "on the cusp" and my view of them being "there" is all subjective, I suppose.

However, Green Lantern sold like hotcakes with Van Sciver on art, he was a Wizard Hype (excuse me, Hot) 10 artist, he's a critics darling. Same goes for Jiminez, who just penciled the biggest DC project in 20 years. If that doesn't qualify you as "A-List", nothing will.

By the way, to not like Churchill is madness, utter madness.

[Masculine Todd]

[QUOTE=xyzzy][/LIST]For me it breaks down like this. These are the writers I would consider A-listQUOTE]

No Winick? Am I the only Winick guy left here?

[xyzzy]

No Winick? Am I the only Winick guy left here?

I've enjoyed his indy stuff, but his DCU work has been subpar, in my opinion.

[Ray G.]

[QUOTE=xyzzy][/LIST]For me it breaks down like this. These are the writers I would consider A-listQUOTE]

No Winick? Am I the only Winick guy left here?

I really don't like the way he forces his politics into a lot of what he does. And the thing is, I agree with most of his politics. I just don't like an interesting storyline to be interrupted for a very special issue on AIDS awareness. His Batman stuff impressed me a lot, though.

[Masculine Todd]

I've enjoyed his indy stuff, but his DCU work has been subpar, in my opinion.

I loved it. From Caper to his amazing run on Batman, I have yet to read a bad Winick book (except for the IC Outsiders issues).

[Masculine Todd]

[QUOTE=ToddKearns]

I really don't like the way he forces his politics into a lot of what he does. And the thing is, I agree with most of his politics. I just don't like an interesting storyline to be interrupted for a very special issue on AIDS awareness. His Batman stuff impressed me a lot, though.

I will admit that he is not subtle about his political views, however I am quite liberal and don't mind them. I can see how some maybe. I do think he integrates them into his script without being disruptive to the flow of a story.

[Artie Pink]

Right now, I don't think either company is making the best use of their talent or characters. Too many crossovers and not enough unbroken, classic runs by the talent they have.

It looks like DC is on the right path, but we'll see. I worry that the sales success (not necessarily creative success) of all the Civil War tie-ins will see more events happen.




Anyway, I call it Marvel: 27, DC: 19 in terms of creators I'd follow. Thanks for the lists, Todd! I hadn't really put 'em all together like that before.

[YouStayClassy]

I loved it. From Caper to his amazing run on Batman, I have yet to read a bad Winick book (except for the IC Outsiders issues).

I liked his Batman run as well, but his Black Mask pretty much reinvented the role of cartoony supervillian-ry. It was very offsetting in parts.

[Donal DeLay]

Exclusives are meaningless to me. I just wish there was less shuffling of creative teams. Word. Mad daps, and whatnot.

[TopFeeg]

How is Kirkman Marvel Exclusive, when his two longest ongoing series are both Image?

[Masculine Todd]

I liked his Batman run as well, but his Black Mask pretty much reinvented the role of cartoony supervillian-ry. It was very offsetting in parts.


I thought Black Mask was a delicious amalgam of the homicidal pleasure of Joker and the business savvy of Penguin, add a pinch of Whedon-esque smartass and you have an awesome villain.

[Blandy vs Terrorism]

I dont know as if I would call Ellis marvel exclusive really.
Nope. DC publishes both Desolation Jones, and Planetary is under Wildstorm isn't it? That would be DC as well.

[Masculine Todd]

Nope. DC publishes both Desolation Jones, and Planetary is under Wildstorm isn't it? That would be DC as well.

His exclusive stated he could continue with his pre-planned non DCU projects with DC, but could not do anymore DCU projects (or something like that).

[Donal DeLay]

How is Kirkman Marvel Exclusive, when his two longest ongoing series are both Image? He has a clause in his contract that allows him to continue his creator owned properties.

[Boris the Blade]

Marvel has the better stable overall.

That said, I'm buying way more DC books than Marvel books for some reason. I guess the b-list characters/teams/concepts running on DC are just better than the ones on Marvel.

[Ben Rosen]

I don't read many Big 2 books, but these are the guys that I'll buy basically anything they put out.

Brian Michael Bendis
Mark Millar
Warren Ellis
Brian Hitch
Alex Maleev

Grant Morrison

So, Marvel I guess.

[sonnylarue]

while I can think of creators I'd like to see working at the other company on certain titles, I really think the talent pool is evenly distributed.

a lot of the "name" artists listed aren't really factors to me.

I think both companies have exceptional artists.

[Freeway]

Marvel; hands down.

[Captain Sensation]

If not for Marvel, i wouldnt be reading comics at all.

It all boils down to characters i care about and not who is writing or drawing what. The creativity level i feel is even for me. However, the amount of stories i care to read stick out more towards marvel.

[SethInAz]

Marvel for me. But i am less driven by creative teams than I am actual characters, and I read mostly Marvel stuff anyway.

[Blandy vs Terrorism]

His exclusive stated he could continue with his pre-planned non DCU projects with DC, but could not do anymore DCU projects (or something like that).
Ah, I wasn't aware of this. My mistake.

[Blandy vs Terrorism]

It's pretty much even for me.

[Phil Hester]

I don't think Phil Hester or Frazer Irving signed exclusives. Hester himself has said that he doesn't like exclusives since it limits what he can do.


For the record: No one ever officially offered me an exclusive. DC floated one that required I stop writing for other companies and that strangled the whole deal in the crib. Yes, this was a pencilling exclusive- I don't know what writing had to do with it. In the end Ande and I wound up at Marvel with Kirkman, so it all worked out in the end.

[SteveZegers]

Don't know, but I've been enjoying and buying more dc books for a while now.

[Jef UK]

Marvel.

[Dreg]

Marvel

[Ryan F]

Here are my faves at the moment:

Marvel:
Writers:
Brian Michael Bendis
Mark Millar
Ed Brubaker
Warren Ellis
Dan Slott

Artists:
John Romita Jr.
Brian Hitch
David Finch
Ed McGuinness
Alex Maleev
Scott Kolins
Leinil Francis Yu
Steve McNiven
Olivier Coipel
Michael Lark
Chris Bachalo
Billy Tan
Ron Garney
Steve Epting
Tom Raney
Sean Philips
Mark Brooks
Jim Cheung
Simone Bianchi
Stuart Immonen
Mike Wieringo
Ramon Bachs

vs.

DC:
Writers:
Grant Morrison
Kurt Busiek

Artists:
George Perez
Carlos Pacheo
Phil Jimenez
Ethan Van Sciver
Pete Woods

Gotta go with Marvel

[RickM]

It seems like every six months I lean a different way. Right now I'm leaning more toward Marvel, I think because Crisis and the annoying tie-ins soured me on DC. I like Marvel's artists and characters much better, and it seems like an equal number of great writers are on either side.

[xanderharris]

Marvel, without a doubt.

[Doc Randy]

I love that these creators are getting paid and with benefits, but I hate all this Marvel/DC exclusive dick waiving.

I don't think the general public fully understands what these mean and how they are often prohibitive to creator-owned projects and indie-comics.

[mikeybrown]

I believe Karl Kershel went to Marvel. He was supposed to do Robin but dropped out after 1 or 2 issues. The writer said something to the effect of went to the other side or something similiar. But I guess it really doesn't matter. Great, underrated artist though.

[Gavin]

Exclusives are meaningless to me. I just wish there was less shuffling of creative teams.
Exactly.

[Brad N.]

Has Alan Davis been added to the Marvel List yet? I'm thinking we should revise this for people curious about exclusive creators...anyone?

[SCOURGE]

Marvel's...

[Brad N.]

Marvel:

Writers:

Brian Michael Bendis
Mark Millar
Ed Brubaker
J. Michael Straczynski
Jeph Loeb
Paul Jenkins
Warren Ellis
Chris Claremont
Peter David
Robert Kirkman
Reginald Hudlin
Zeb Wells
Dan Slott
Alan Davis
Daniel Way

Artists:

Alan Davis
John Romita Jr.
Brian Hitch
Joe Madueria
David Finch
Ed McGuinness
Alex Maleev
Scott Kolins
Scottie Young
Ryan Sook
J. Scott Campbell
Leinil Francis Yu
Steve McNiven
Olivier Coipel
Angel Medina
Michael Lark
Patrick Zircher
Mike Deodato Jr.
Chris Bachalo
Billy Tan
Ron Garney
Steve Epting
Scot Eaton
Mark Bagley
Tom Raney
Greg Land
Sean Philips
Trevor Hairsine
Tommy Lee Edwards
Leonard Kirk
Mark Brooks
Jim Cheung
Mike McKone
Manuel Garcia
Brandon Peterson
Simone Bianchi
Stuart Immonen
Pascual Ferry
Paco Medina
Salvador Larroca
Mike Wieringo
Ramon Bachs

vs.

DC:

Writers:

Geoff Johns
Grant Morrison
Judd Winick
Greg Rucka
Kurt Busiek
Mark Waid
Mark Verheiden
Bruce Jones
Brian Azzarello
Gail Simone
Will Pfeifer
Bill Willingham

Artists:

Jim Lee
George Perez
Carlos Pacheo
Ed Benes
Phil Jimenez
Tim Sale
Ethan Van Sciver
Adam Kubert
Andy Kubert
Howard Porter
Ian Churchill
Dan Jurgens
Doug Mahnke
Scott McDaniel
Darick Robertson
Pete Woods
Ivan Reis
Don Kramer
Chris Batista
Tony S. Daniel
Carlos D'Anda
Shane Davis
Jamal Igle
Doug Braithwaite
Joe Bennett
Dale Eaglesham
Damien Scott
Tom Derenick
Joshua Middleton
Patrick Gleason
Rags Morales
Jesus Saiz
Justiano
Renato Guedes
Karl Kerschl
Matthew Clark

Updated, feel free to add to it.

[Brendan]

The only DC I'm buying anymore is Detective, and I'll probably drop it once Paul Dini is gone.

[Icaruss]

Marvel's. Definately.

Though I do love myself some Waid, and some Busiek.

[RickLM]

Marvel has way more fun books right now than DC.

And I don't understand why Mark Waid isn't doing more writing.